Ah, there's the FP I remember

"shop-teacher" (shop-teacher)
08/26/2019 at 22:44 • Filed to: Popcorn!

I never would've guessed a year ago that I'd be defending Santino Ferrucci. Apparently this grey (I replied before I took the screenshot) member of the rage-mob thinks I should be ground into dirt for that. Whatever, I'm bored, let's dance son.

DISCUSSION (45)

For Sweden > shop-teacher
08/26/2019 at 22:53

If our professional athletes cannot be paragons of virtue, who can be?

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > shop-teacher
08/26/2019 at 22:55

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > shop-teacher
08/26/2019 at 22:58

I’ve commented on the FP twice.

That’s three more times than I ever should’ve.

shop-teacher > For Sweden
08/26/2019 at 22:58

Not our president, apparently.

ttyymmnn > shop-teacher
08/26/2019 at 22:59

Friends don’t let friends comment on the FP.

CB > shop-teacher
08/26/2019 at 22:59

It’s not worth it. We could have a more worthwhile discussion on Oppo about other nonsense.

For Sweden > shop-teacher
08/26/2019 at 23:00

That's been hopeless since Woodrow Wilson

shop-teacher > BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo
08/26/2019 at 23:01

I enjoy it sometimes. I've had some genuinely good discussions on there. This won't be one of them, but sometimes it's fun to spar with a troll. The key is to not give a shit what they think or say. I'm pretty good at compartmentalizing it.

shop-teacher > ttyymmnn
08/26/2019 at 23:02

I enjoy it when I'm in the right mood. I'm feeling punchy right now.

shop-teacher > CB
08/26/2019 at 23:02

Why not both???

Cash Rewards > shop-teacher
08/26/2019 at 23:09

There are some decent folks out there. Just gotta look at who

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > shop-teacher
08/26/2019 at 23:12

ah... i saw that post

decided the dudes a dickbag unworthy of me having to listen to all the other dickbags on the fp agreeing/disagreeing with me...so i didnt post

i are feel smart now

smobgirl > shop-teacher
08/26/2019 at 23:14

I figured out the other day that someone has blocked me on twitter - and I’m a pretty inoffensive person online so that was a little surprising. Checked out their feed and they’re a raging Ferrucci fan so...oops. I’m not starting an argument over the kid here but there are few people in motorsports who irritate me as much as he does.

Chariotoflove > shop-teacher
08/26/2019 at 23:21

Here’s the problem with arguing with jack holes like that. You will never ever get him to realize that he is wrong. He can’t recognize that he has lost an argument. Therefore, all you’ve done is give him a forum to spout his stupidity.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > shop-teacher
08/26/2019 at 23:22

In the bigger picture, I see a problem with how “forgiving” we seem to be with really dangerous behavior. Th e fact that Fenati, the motorcycle racer who LITERALLY GRABBED THE BRAKE OF ANOTHER RIDER AT SPEED, is in talks for another ride means I’m not surprised Ferucci has a drive as well. So yes, I am 100% against Ferucci racing at all, but it has as much to do with the current climate as it does with his individual actions which are reprehensible and he does seem to give zero fucks about it since he landed on his feet. A case of “Sorry I got caught, but not sorry for doing it”.

Sorry you got caught in the crossfire and that troll just wants to vent anger due to a lack of power in the real world so they do it anonymously. This is a serious issue though and really, Ferrucc i is a smptom of a bit of an illness going around the racing community. We’ve ground down a lot of the 18-35 age bracket of racers in the search for top drivers as motorsports if the Red Bull camp is any indication...

Urambo Tauro > shop-teacher
08/26/2019 at 23:31

Welp, too late to leave those comments in t he grey now.

QCGoose > shop-teacher
08/26/2019 at 23:45

The FP is just a cesspool anymore. For actual automotive news and real journalism, I go... basically anywhere else.

And for good people and online camaraderie, I come here.

smobgirl > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
08/26/2019 at 23:51

Ugh. Next thing you’ll tell me is Ticktum got signed by someone for next year. None of these guys should be racing.

Shift24 > shop-teacher
08/27/2019 at 00:50

To be honest I w ish they would p ost some oppo posts on jalopnik again.

I feel that would help some... but you’ll still get the burners

I don't post heavy on the fp but there is alot of out of touch people on the FP

wafflesnfalafel > For Sweden
08/27/2019 at 01:05

Wilson did have a nice Pierce Arrow....

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > smobgirl
08/27/2019 at 01:06

He was just dropped by RB’s entire program for not being able to be competitive in Super Formula. So, if it’s any consolation, even Evil has standards as they basically are saying “You can be shitty and win, or be a good person and just do well. But you cant both be an awful human being an just an above average driver”.

Why they re-signed him I don’t know.......But that mistake appears to fix itself.

shop-teacher > smobgirl
08/27/2019 at 07:30

See, we can just have a discussion here. I certainly respect your opinion.

I was not happy when it was announced he was coming to IndyCar, and I fully expected to hate him. I only know the broad strokes of what happened last year. I only read the headlines, because I frankly don’t care about European racing. What I’ve seen from him over here though, is a kid who minds his P’s and Q’s, and has done a very impressive job in the race car. He’s been nothing but respectful to the other drivers, the series as a whole, and the fans. I was not expecting that AT ALL.

I'd still love to hold him down and shave that annoying mop off of his head.

shop-teacher > Shift24
08/27/2019 at 07:30

That I definitely agree with. I miss that.

shop-teacher > Chariotoflove
08/27/2019 at 07:31

Agreed 100% . I’m not doing it to try and convince him of anything. Sometimes I just enjoy a good sparring.

shop-teacher > Urambo Tauro
08/27/2019 at 07:32

Sometimes I leave them, sometimes I'd rather their idiocy be on display.

shop-teacher > QCGoose
08/27/2019 at 07:33

Agreed.

Their racing reporting in particular ... Let's just say I REAAAAALY miss Stef.

shop-teacher > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
08/27/2019 at 07:37

I see the opposite problem in our society. The second anybody screws up publicly in any way, the rage-mob calls for their head. Ferrucci is still a kid. If kids couldn't learn from their mistakes, where would any of us be? No, he hasn't made a flowery apology, but his behavior in IndyCar has been impeccable on and off the track. I fully expected to hate the kid, but I just can't.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > shop-teacher
08/27/2019 at 07:46

Maybe so, but he deliberately rammed into the back of another competitor...sorry, if that had gone worse, he could’ve permanently injured somebody. I don’t care if he’s a kid, he’s old enough as a young adult to know to not deliberately perform an action where somebody else could potentially be injured and millions of dollars in property damaged...

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > shop-teacher
08/27/2019 at 08:15

I’d agree with that, and could even agree with Fenati being back in Moto2/Moto3, if they were told to basically go back down and work your way back up. But Fenati got right back on a world championship bike and Ferrucci got a promotion. So what that says to me is it’s better to be headline grabbing by any means necessary than to race fairly and safely.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
08/27/2019 at 08:16

Agreed. If you’re willing to say he’s too immature to not know better than actions like that, then you’re also saying he’s too immature for that level of competition.

smobgirl > shop-teacher
08/27/2019 at 08:43

We definitely both agree that his hair has to go!

shop-teacher > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
08/27/2019 at 09:14

Which is something that countless racers, many of whom are champions who are revered in their sport, have done. Some of them make a frequent habit of it. Ferrucci has done it once. H e was admonished, he (rightfully) lost his ride, and he also lost any opportunity to reach his goal of racing in F1. If he had continued that type of behavior in IndyCar, I’d be first in line in the “ Get this A-hole out of a car” crowd . I was expecting a punk who raced like a bull in a china shop to show up in IndyCar this year, but that’s not what happened. His behavior in IndyCar, on and off the track, has been beyond reproach.

shop-teacher > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
08/27/2019 at 09:16

If you permanently parked ever racer who ever intentionally hit another car, more than half of the professional driving ranks throughout racing history would have never been heard from. If he had kept up that behavior, park him. But he hasn’t.

shop-teacher > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
08/27/2019 at 09:18

Ferrucci lost his ride and any path to his goal of racing in F1. He now races for no money in a niche sport. Hardly a promotion.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > shop-teacher
08/27/2019 at 09:40

If he had hit his teammate on track during the race, I’d get that. But he didn’t. It was after the race. And don’t forget - he completely ignored all calls to the steward’s office and all disciplinary hearings. Oh and the “texting and driving” offense too.

I’d be with you if it happened in the heat of the moment on track. But I can think of very few, if any, racers in the past two decades who had that little self control to crash out a racer after the race. Say what you will about Indy, it *is* a promotion from F2. If anything, it guarantees him national TV exposure and hookups for other series. He was guaranteed nothing for F1. If anything, he was probably going to fade out into nothingness unless he made a jump to a series like Indy.

QCGoose > shop-teacher
08/27/2019 at 10:32

Absolutely. Losing her was just another nail in the coffin.

Chariotoflove > shop-teacher
08/27/2019 at 11:08

Then have at it!

shop-teacher > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
08/27/2019 at 11:35

In the heat of the race? Does all of your adrenaline instantly go away the second you cross the finish line? If so, you’re a better man than I. Many drivers have gone after other drivers after the race, during a caution period, even on pit lane. Which is all bad, don’t get me wrong, but I’m not on board with the idea that after one offense you’re parked for life in all series of motorsports.

shop-teacher > QCGoose
08/27/2019 at 11:37

I feel like losing her was like driving several long screws in the coffin.

shop-teacher > Chariotoflove
08/27/2019 at 11:39

I’m having my fun :)

His biggest argument is that he is 100% convinced that I am a Trump supporter. Which, LOL, no. Also, I’m amused by the fact that that’s the nastiest thing a member of the rage-mob can call you.

Chariotoflove > shop-teacher
08/27/2019 at 12:15

I have been called a Trump supporter. Ironic thing is, the insult only works if you’re not a Trump supporter, otherwise it’s a compliment.

QCGoose > shop-teacher
08/27/2019 at 13:03

Probably a more accurate description lol.

Clown Shoe Pilot > shop-teacher
09/02/2019 at 23:03

long screw in a coffin? you kinky bastard.

shop-teacher > Clown Shoe Pilot
09/02/2019 at 23:06

I bet that's actually a thing for some people, isn't it?

Clown Shoe Pilot > shop-teacher
09/02/2019 at 23:10

almost certainly. doesn’t do anything for me but hey, whatever puts the lead in a fella’s pencil.