If I had to commute, it's hard to argue against the TSX wagon as a DD.

"Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo" (thetomselleck)
07/21/2019 at 16:25 • Filed to: extremely unncessary car shopping with the guy with the paseo wagon

Let’s look at the obvious pluses of this longboi versus my Paseo:

- ten+ years newer

- 5-10 more miles per gallon

- oodles of cargo and passenger space

- FWD, so I can actually drive it in winter

- normal ground clearance, so I don’t have to worry about humps on the ends of other people’s driveways

- EDIT: I've been corrected: this takes premium fuel too, great googly moogly...

- no one will try to race me

- uncommon which makes it appealing

- hard to get a speeding ticket

- FWD 4-banger Honda bodes well for reliability and cost of ownership

And here are the highly subjective minuses:

- FWD, when I prefer RWD

- handling... it’s a functional wagon

- 45 less ft-lbs of torque... Hondaaaaa!

- 12 inches longer and 4 inches wider... Tight fit in the garage

- a good one costs nearly double what my car is worth, thus it would take years for the fuel savings to break even with the cost of entry

- I could buy a real nice truck or SUV instead. Or a Z4 3.0si coupe.

Love the light interior with the dark dash and mats, though... Ah well. I gotta stay off Craigslist.

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DISCUSSION (23)

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
07/21/2019 at 16:25

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/d/lynnwood-2012-acura-tsx-sport-wagon/6933064625.html

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
07/21/2019 at 16:40

•it recommends premium, not regular. You’ll lose power and fuel economy, so it’s not even worth the price increase for the gas.

•I have not driven an IS300, but the TSX handles far better than the IS250/350 IMO

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
07/21/2019 at 16:41

Whoa they’re still pricy. In spite of the wagony goodness, I think you could probably find equally competent wagony goodness in a less expensive package.

Also it takes premium.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford
07/21/2019 at 16:42

What? The NA 2.4 recommends premium?!?

What a world, what a world...

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
07/21/2019 at 16:44

Yessir, it only takes the finest of gasolines. Higher compression than other uses, hence higher power, but the trade off is higher octane

Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
07/21/2019 at 16:58

If it makes you feel any better my D2 (4.0L NA V8) takes premium too. RIP my wallet...

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford
07/21/2019 at 17:00

Kinja'd!!!

My napkin math says I'd have to drive a hell of a lot of miles to even start saving money.

Shift24 > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
07/21/2019 at 17:10

It could have been good but Recession H onda was chickening out on taking risks. And pretty much cheapened everything.

And unless you plan on tuning it, the 2.4l isn’t worth it.

I would suggest a v6 cts wagon over these, and the Non-Vs are ugly.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
07/21/2019 at 17:29

I was looking at those too, now I’m looking at the discounts of the Buick TourX as well.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
07/21/2019 at 17:31

Oh shit, maybe not then, plus the Buick/Opel/.... has AWD.

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
07/21/2019 at 18:19

For me, the swap from the GS300 to the TSX saved me over $2000, not to mention that maintenance costs and future repairs needed.

Kinja'd!!!

That’s over the course of 2 years

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°)
07/21/2019 at 19:16

AWD is admittedly unnecessary because -- save for this 2019 outlier -- I don't get real winters beyond lots of black ice, and I live in some relatively flat 'burbs

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford
07/21/2019 at 19:18

See that worked because that was an older TSX and far less expensive than 2012-2014 wagon to boot. I haven't broken 100k yet on my 2JZ but I suspect I will be replacing more bits in pieces as the years march on...

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
07/21/2019 at 19:20

With less than 100k that means you can sell your Paseo for $100k on BAT

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford
07/21/2019 at 19:21

It has crossed my mind that selling before I break 6-digits may be a financially sound decision.

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
07/21/2019 at 19:23

On one hand, it’s worth the most it will be right now.

On the other hand, if you sell it you’ll pay a pretty penny for a similar one if you regret your choice.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford
07/21/2019 at 19:24

Regret is my specialty. Nay; my forte.

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
07/21/2019 at 19:25

Forte? I think I might know of one that you could get cheap, if you can live without A/C

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford
07/21/2019 at 19:29

Ugh, now that I have good AC, I will never choose to be without it short of a vintage pickup.

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
07/21/2019 at 19:32

Once you’ve had Lexus or Infiniti air conditioning, all others feel wea k and barely effective

DaddyWagon05 > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
07/21/2019 at 20:56

I DD a 2011 TSX wagon with Tech package. Driveway humps c an still be a threat.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
07/21/2019 at 21:33

Well in NorCal we get some crazy rain with curvy roads and my AWD has felt like it was really helping, not for snow! I found a one owner TSX Wagon I might look at.

510Again > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
07/21/2019 at 22:00

Premium fuel ???....pshhh....nah !!! Hogwash. I've got 2013 Sportwagon, 700 hwy miles per week running lowest grade fuel and it does 29-30 mpg regularly @ 80 mph. Runs great !!