Vehicles You Can’t Wait To Come Out (But Probably Won’t)

"PatBateman" (PatBateman) 07/02/2019 at 21:07 • Filed to: Imaginary Cars

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I’m so excited for the new Cadillac version of the mid-engine C8. It’ll have the high-revving Blackwing “Hot V” V8 and perhaps an optional performance hybrid setup with KERS for energy recharging on hot laps. So much yes.

I also cannot WAIT for the Raptor-challenging Chevy Silverado Baja Boss, with its twin turbocharged 6.2 liter V8 and standard 35” tires. You will be able to laugh at all those Dodge Ram TRX bros and Raptor Men as you blow by them while making sweet jumps (thanks to an off-road magnetic suspension set up and 15” of suspension  travel.

Of course, who could ignore the return of the Dodge Magnum in SRT Hellcat Redeye Widebody trim?! FCA continues their “why the fuck not make it” attitude and brings the old dog back (but with a few new tricks). Available in both 8 speed auto and 6 speed manual transmission choices.

Your turn. Say some stupid lazy crap like “RX9” and you lose 80 Oppo points.

GO.

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > PatBateman 07/02/2019 at 21:15

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A US-spec Ranger Raptor with the 2.7 EcoBoost from the F-150 with 325 hp/400 lb-ft. It’d be an absolute rocket.

PatBateman > BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo 07/02/2019 at 21:16

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I could get down with that.  

Captain of the Enterprise > PatBateman 07/02/2019 at 21:25

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A new 4Runner with an engine that can actually move it without flooring it everywhere. 

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > PatBateman 07/02/2019 at 21:29

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The VW A59, as likely as anything anyone mentions to be brought to production, about two and a half decades after it was built.

PatBateman > Captain of the Enterprise 07/02/2019 at 21:29

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Now you’re just speaking nonsense.  

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > PatBateman 07/02/2019 at 21:37

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I can’t wait for the new Porsche 911.

That’s a lie.

Captain of the Enterprise > PatBateman 07/02/2019 at 21:39

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Yeah it’ll probably never happen. I test drive a new one and was gutted by how slow it was. It just doesn’t get up and move. I had to floor it to merge on the freeway. 

wafflesnfalafel > PatBateman 07/02/2019 at 21:44

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Mazda Speed3.....

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > PatBateman 07/02/2019 at 21:54

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Yes, they do make them; they just don't sell them here.

arl > PatBateman 07/02/2019 at 22:18

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Bronco

Wacko > PatBateman 07/02/2019 at 22:20

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A Mazda without rust

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > PatBateman 07/02/2019 at 22:23

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new affordable mid-engine car, (30-45K price range), built from a space frame with attached bodywork. Hybrid power unit behind the driver, electric assist and regen on the front axle.

350-400hp combined in sport mode, direct drive and recharging in cruise mode, full-electric or electric + generator in stop-and-go driving. Like a Volt, but just turned up to a performance oriented level, rather than fuel-efficiency at all costs.

Classy, sophisticated, but still fun looks, not ridiculously over-styled, nor econo-box bland.

I don’t care if it is a Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Ford, GM, Chrysler/Fiat/Alfa, or a Mazda... whatever. Basically a neo-Fiero/MR2/Scorpion with effective hybrid tech... not a multi-level flop like CR-Z.

... although if it is a Mazda, I would want a rotary as the generator/cruise motor, to bypass almost all the drawbacks of stop-and-go high demand, low rpm lugging and idle fuel consumption that hurts rotaries. If it is on, it is generating electricity, or directly driving the wheels in cruise mode, not lugging, not idling.

boredalways > PatBateman 07/02/2019 at 22:37

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A Rokit Williams that actually scores a point, most likely by Kubica.

Nibby > PatBateman 07/02/2019 at 22:38

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2020 camry

daender > PatBateman 07/02/2019 at 22:41

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A turbocharged Miata. It doesn’t even have to be a factory car! Just...work out an agreement with Flyin’ Miata or some other aftermarket company to build them using their catalog of parts! Mazda worked with Racing Beat for the Protege MP3 and Mazdaspeed versions of the Protege and Miata!

PatBateman > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 07/02/2019 at 22:42

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I heard Porsche was shelving the 911 and going with an electrified 944.  So hipster. 

PatBateman > wafflesnfalafel 07/02/2019 at 22:43

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This reminds me to call my inside contact at Mazda to see if such a thing may be in the pipeline. 

PatBateman > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 07/02/2019 at 22:44

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It would be better if it didn’t exist at all.  Why tease you this badly?

PatBateman > arl 07/02/2019 at 22:44

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But

PatBateman > Wacko 07/02/2019 at 22:45

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Keep it wrapped in plastic, in a controlled environment, and MAYBE such a thing exists. 

HammerheadFistpunch > Captain of the Enterprise 07/02/2019 at 22:45

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PatBateman > daender 07/02/2019 at 22:50

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“How about a nice LS swap instead?”

-Santa Claus from A Christmas Story

BaconSandwich is tasty. > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 07/02/2019 at 23:14

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Maybe an odd question, but how does body work generally attach to a space frame like that? Are there tabs welded onto the frame and matching tabs on the body panels (with captive nuts)?

coqui70 > PatBateman 07/02/2019 at 23:24

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R eal Dodge Ramcharger ... full-size 2-door 4x4 Hellcat

Buick GNX/Riviera T-Type - twin-turbo 3.6 V6 alpha platform

Fiat Mirafiori sedan/wagon - Alfa RWD platform, 2.0 litre turbo

Chevy Colorado 4x4 ZR3 2.7 turbo-4 from Silverado

Saab ... just bring Saab back ( extra points for a 9-5 Aero wagon)

Mercury Cougar - updated early 90's style with Focus ST mechanicals

Datsun/Nissan 510 - light, RWD, turbo-4

Jensen Interceptor Hellcat ... boom drop the mic ...

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > PatBateman 07/02/2019 at 23:25

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Nah, it’s gonna be an electrified 356. Gotta go 110% on board with the nostalgia trai n

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > BaconSandwich is tasty. 07/02/2019 at 23:36

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Depending on the part, usually either bolts, machine screws, or snap-in clips, pretty much like any unibody car already does, except that parts that are usually exposed on a unibody, like the rear fenders, roof pillars and roof skin, on a space-frame car might be fastened on, rather than integrated, and the door skins may be fastened on to the doorframes, rather than welded steel skins.

A space frame car is sort of half-way between a unibody, and a monocoque.

DeLorean DMC12 and Pontiac Fiero were space-frame cars, with bodies that could be completely disassembled. Composite bodywork on the Fiero was dent resistant and corrosion proof, and theoretically the whole body could be changed out for re-styling, or painting off the car, or to replace damaged sections.

Metallurgy and composites have come a LONG way since then, and not only could the spaceframe be lighter and stiffer, but the composite bodywork could also be lighter, stronger, and more resilient.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 07/02/2019 at 23:40

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Interesting. That's something I've been curious about but haven't done much digging into. Thankfully (?) I haven't had to do any body work on my own car yet, but I'm dreaming of building my own vehicle some day, so I'm trying to pick up bits and pieces of information here and there.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > BaconSandwich is tasty. 07/03/2019 at 00:02

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Sure. A tube-frame chassis is pretty much a form of a space frame. Fiero’s stamped and welded steel, and even the Corvette’s hydroformed steel and aluminum space frames are just a varying construction methodology.

The spaceframe term comes from the framework, including the main safety cell and associated sub-frame assemblies, together defining the volume and area that the car occupies out to the point where the bodywork attaches, basically as a skin over the framework.

Monocoques tend to be smaller, lighter, and minimalist to their core function, with attached parts designed to meet the monococques’ shape. Race cars, and carbon-chassis supercars tend to be monocoque constructed.

Unibody construction, as mentioned, is like a a space frame, but some of the bodywork skin is used as a stressed member integral part of the frame, rather than being a layer attached to the frame. It reduces parts counts, but also requires major manufacturing, and more involved repairs.

Bolts, screws, clips, DZUS quarter-turn fasteners, Quick-Latch push-button panel fasteners, Aerocatch lever-action panel fasteners, all sorts of ways to fasten bodywork to an underlying structure.

pip bip - choose Corrour > daender 07/03/2019 at 03:51

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BBR in the UK do one

pip bip - choose Corrour > PatBateman 07/03/2019 at 03:52

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Australian made car again

My bird IS the word > PatBateman 07/03/2019 at 06:58

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The 2004 bronco concept

Captain of the Enterprise > HammerheadFistpunch 07/03/2019 at 13:21

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What is that? It looks nice! 

HammerheadFistpunch > Captain of the Enterprise 07/03/2019 at 13:25

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A V8 powered 4Runner (GX460)