So thinking about making a terrible decision Oppo.

"TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts." (thebloody)
06/26/2019 at 14:20 • Filed to: Land Rover, Bad Ideas, P-38

1998 P38 with 133k on the clock.

The good:

One owner truck with full service history. GEMS 4.6 so none of the Bosh issues, head gaskets done at 120k, airbags replaced and a 3 inch Lucky 8 terrafirma lift coil conversion. Bushings, brakes, radiator ect... all done.

BECM has been replaced.

The Bad:

Hasn’t been driven often over the last two years because owner just has too many cars so it’s developed some gremlins. Eg: The truck shifts at weird times but it’s not the transmission slipping so seems to be the computer shifting at the wrong times?

Still has the original alternator and a new battery was put in but died so I’m thinking that might be the root of those issues.

Has a high idle that could be the control valve?

Has a bad wheel sensor.

@ !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! ever work on GEMS 4.6's? My experience is mainly with Bosh motors so not sure what could be causing those gremlins.

DISCUSSION (14)

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
06/26/2019 at 14:23

Bad decisions and planning of said decisions are required for membership here.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
06/26/2019 at 14:26

Planned bad decisions are best decisions, change my mind.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
06/26/2019 at 14:43

Also calling @RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht, ever worked with GEMS?

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
06/26/2019 at 14:52

This sounds like a sweet truck! And oh yes. Loads of them. Start with sorting out the voltage issues. The transmissions or their control units aren't terribly problematic. It's been years, so I can't remember, but it's maybe possible the engine control unit is increasing idle to increase alternator output? Voltage issues cause tons of weird problems on these and diagnosing anything is useless without taking care of voltage first.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > AMGtech - now with more recalls!
06/26/2019 at 15:04

I’ve heard horror stories about P38's and their electrical issues but this one does seem straight forward.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
06/26/2019 at 15:08

I have not worked with GEMS. I know it uses a reluctor and deletes the dizzy, which causes my primitive mind to recoil like a vampire, but it is also Boschisch and not Made of Lucas, so...

Of course, I, Andrew Ryan, rejected those answers and have grandiose plans involving cBR600RR throttle bodies and Megasquirt, so...

Kinja'd!!!

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
06/26/2019 at 15:10

Head gaskets done 13k ago under unknown professional RV8 exorcist auspices , unknown status of timing chain and cam ...

Kinja'd!!!

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
06/26/2019 at 15:13

Join us Ramblin, forsake that distributer cap and come into the light. One of us, one of us.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
06/26/2019 at 15:15

muh intermediate timing cover with gerotor oil pump and cam bushing + cam dizzy drive

superior

master genius best version

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
06/26/2019 at 15:17

Never missed an oil change and timing cover gaskets were done with the chain checked. Mechanically there are no issues, it’s just electrical at this point.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
06/26/2019 at 15:21

Chain stretch and lobe wear aren’t always related, but if the chain is doing okay, the cam should be as well. Unless it’s one of the factory Mr. Mushy ones, but I think mad metallurgy was mostly out by the 4.6. Maybe.

Would be interesting to know if the HGs were done with full psychosis and ARP studs, or just new gaskets and bolts (hopefully).

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
06/26/2019 at 15:36

Horror stories come from people that don't know what they're doing. Usually. I've only had one or two that were a real pain electrically, but that's because the clients couldn't afford a new BeCM, or it was in intergalactic backorder or something like that. So I ended up bypassing it to make a certain function work again.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > AMGtech - now with more recalls!
06/26/2019 at 16:00

Gotcha, seller told me he had the BeCM sent out to a guy in California who apparently specialized in rebuilding them and hasn’t had issues since.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
06/26/2019 at 20:05

This is a common thing actually. I wouldn't worry about it.