Did VW have the most bodystyles with the Golf?

"Svend" (svend) 06/07/2019 at 09:34 • Filed to: None

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After reading this post by Full of the sound of grand fury.

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Granted VW used different names for some of them.

Scirocco (lowered Golf 3 door)

Golf 3 door

Bora / Jetta (Golf saloon)

Golf 5 door

Golf Plus

Golf SV

Golf estate

Golf estate crossover

Eos (Golf hard top convertible)

Golf convertible (soft top)

412GTI > Svend 06/07/2019 at 09:42

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That is a lot when you lay it out like that..but wow as a Yankee, I’ve always lusted over the Scirocco. So good looking, would buy one in a heartbeat over my GTI. 

Ash78, voting early and often > Svend 06/07/2019 at 09:43

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The main reason that Golf and Corolla are the two top-selling “models” of all time is because they were really sub-brands until themselves. SOOO many variations.

Don’t even get me started on the weird prioritization of models in the US, where VW is normally just 2-4% market share. We normally have just 2-3 Golf/Jetta models available at any given time, and it changes every year.

The Ghost of Oppo > Svend 06/07/2019 at 09:47

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A rear hatch is not a door, change my mind

UserNotFound > Svend 06/07/2019 at 09:48

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You forgot the Golf football.

OPPOsaurus WRX > The Ghost of Oppo 06/07/2019 at 09:59

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Its a door, top hinged.  You open it to put things in and take them out.  

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > The Ghost of Oppo 06/07/2019 at 10:01

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What if it opens sideways like a Mini Clubman, or older Rav4

The Ghost of Oppo > OPPOsaurus WRX 06/07/2019 at 10:03

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How is that different from a sedan’s trunk?

Svend > 412GTI 06/07/2019 at 10:07

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Unfortunately they discontinued the Scirocco back in 2017 (though you could still buy and order a new one way into 2018). 

The Ghost of Oppo > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 06/07/2019 at 10:08

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Ooo now we’re getting spicy, is that a tailgate?  It is at the tail of the vehicle, and it opens like a gate

Milky > Svend 06/07/2019 at 10:11

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You forgot a few:

Svend > The Ghost of Oppo 06/07/2019 at 10:12

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It’s the difference between an aperture into a storage space and an aperture into the main cabin. 

A coupe (2 door) and a saloon (4 door) aren’t the same as the 3 and 5 door hatch back.

Just as a 5 door liftback/hatchback aren’t the same as an estate.

OPPOsaurus WRX > The Ghost of Oppo 06/07/2019 at 10:13

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I’d say the difference is that the trunk is smaller and used solely for storage / transporting dead bodies . The hatch is not really separated form the rest of the passenger compartment.

Svend > Milky 06/07/2019 at 10:14

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They are Audis, not VWs. 

The Ghost of Oppo > OPPOsaurus WRX 06/07/2019 at 10:19

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By god you’re right, I’ve always been an advocate for hatchbacks because of their superior cargo space but a hatchback would be a terrible vehicle to store a body.

Milky > Svend 06/07/2019 at 10:24

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OPPOsaurus WRX > The Ghost of Oppo 06/07/2019 at 10:27

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yea, a hatch would be terrible for that.  You might as well tie it to the roof racks.

GTI Sprinks > Svend 06/07/2019 at 10:33

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I love that technically the scirocco is a squashed 3 door golf built on the old architecture and it drives stateside fans that they don’t get it. But when they get the actual 3 door golf no one buys them and they become objects of lust until they’re discontinued.
Happy owner of a 3 door gti. :)

Svend > Ash78, voting early and often 06/07/2019 at 10:35

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I can understand the different names.

Ford used the Focus name for all it’s cars.

Focus C-Max which became it’s own model, C-Max.

The sub-brand thing is starting to get out of hand.

Even SEAT are doing it now. Cupra used to be the sporty end of SEAT, now, it’s it’s own sub-brand.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Svend 06/07/2019 at 10:39

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If we’re gonna call an Eos a Golf, include the Passat, which is just a larger Golf Sedan

Svend > GTI Sprinks 06/07/2019 at 10:50

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I’d love a viper green metallic VW Scirocco 1.4TSi manual.

Svend > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 06/07/2019 at 10:57

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The Eos is no less a Golf than the Golf Cabrio.

GTI Sprinks > Svend 06/07/2019 at 11:04

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Only the 1.4? Dream bigger Svend. :D

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Svend 06/07/2019 at 11:12

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I really don’t see how you can consider them to be different versions of the same car. Golf 3 door/5 door/plus/sv/estate all being Golfs I’m on board with, but adding a trunk significantly alters the form factor. Soft top convertible looks “Golf-y” (I also did not know there was still one being made!) but the hardtop convertible looks “Jetta-y”.

The logical conclusion of this post is that all MQB platform vehicles are, in fact, Golfs.

Svend > GTI Sprinks 06/07/2019 at 11:14

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Nah, I don’t need a larger engine.

I’m happy with a smaller more economical engine.

123bhp is enough, it was for my Mk2 Superb estate 1.4TSi

148bhp, 1.4TSi ACT Su perb liftback

148bhp, 1.5TSi ACT Superb estate 

Svend > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 06/07/2019 at 11:27

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The Eos is an ex tended Golf Cabrio to accommodate the hard top roof.

The Jetta is a Golf with a boot.

The estate is a Golf with a larger boot than the Jetta.

No. A ll MQBs can’t be considered Golfs. 

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Svend 06/07/2019 at 11:39

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I mean...

The Audi A3 is a Golf with a better interior and AWD, the TT is a liftback coupe Golf with a nice interior, the Polo is a smaller Golf, and the T-Cross, T-Roc, Tayron, Tharu, and Tiguan are longer, taller, lifted Golfs by the same argument...

Svend > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 06/07/2019 at 11:50

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But it’s not a VW.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Svend 06/07/2019 at 12:01

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So ignore the two Audis I mentioned. Why would a Polo and all the T-crossovers not be Golfs by the same logic that a Jetta is?

Svend > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 06/07/2019 at 12:25

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Because the Polo is a different car entirely, always has been , as is the Passat.

The T crossovers just share the same platform.

The Jetta is an evolution of the Bora.

VW acknowledges they are all related. So who am I to argue with the people that make the cars. 

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Svend 06/07/2019 at 12:33

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If Jetta/Bora and Golf were the same car, they’d have the same name, like the Focus hatch and sedan, wouldn’t they?

These are the same people who called the CC a four door coupe, so I’m not really going to give their naming conventions much credence.

Svend > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 06/07/2019 at 13:06

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Not necessarily.

While Ford kept the name the same for the Focus, they changed it for the Fiesta and taller Fiesta, the Fusion (our Fusion).

The Ford Focus C-Max, left to become just the Ford C-Max.

Like the Renault Megane Scenic, became the Renault Scenic.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Svend 06/07/2019 at 13:13

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Wait, your tall Fiesta (we call it the Ecosport I think) is called a Fusion? I know our Fusion is your Mondeo, right? Weird!

Svend > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 06/07/2019 at 13:26

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No, our Ford Fusion was based on the Fiesta Mk5.

Fiesta Mk5. 

our Fusion.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Svend 06/07/2019 at 13:30

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Ahhhh that’s so weird I don’t like it

Svend > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 06/07/2019 at 13:50

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It’s like ‘Full of the sound of grand fury’ found with the VW Golf Plus.

Golf and Golf Plus.

The Fusion and Golf Plus were popular with the older generation because the roof was raised and the ground clearance was higher to aid ingress and egress. This was before the CUV/SUV thing started off.

For the elderly and infirm the Ecosport took the place of the discontinued Ford Fusion. 

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Svend 06/07/2019 at 14:11

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Reminds me of a Toyota Matrix/Pontiac Vibe.