How's Everyone?

"404 - User No Longer Available" (toni-cipriani)
05/21/2019 at 00:00 • Filed to: Conversation Street

In Hong Kong now, sitting around waiting for my lunch. AMA... maybe?

DISCUSSION (43)

For Sweden > 404 - User No Longer Available
05/21/2019 at 00:08

Why is the building outside the window at an angle?

Chariotoflove > 404 - User No Longer Available
05/21/2019 at 00:21

I’m tired. Going to bed.

Have a good lunch!

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > 404 - User No Longer Available
05/21/2019 at 00:22

You live next to the Peak Tram route? Or is it a restaurant?

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > 404 - User No Longer Available
05/21/2019 at 00:25

6:20 am here about to go be at work till 9 pm

soooo... im a little grumpy for the moment

have fun in hong kong :)

404 - User No Longer Available > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
05/21/2019 at 00:28

Restaurant. Waiting for a friend for lunch.

I'm mostly on the Kowloon side.

404 - User No Longer Available > For Sweden
05/21/2019 at 00:29

Because I'm in another part of the world

CB > 404 - User No Longer Available
05/21/2019 at 00:31

Working. The usual.

How's Hong Kong?

Svend > 404 - User No Longer Available
05/21/2019 at 00:32

I’ve 30 minutes before my shift finishes. Yay.

How's Hong Kong? Are you enjoying it?

Spanfeller is a twat > 404 - User No Longer Available
05/21/2019 at 00:36

I’ve always had a fascination for Hong Kong... It’s one of the cities in the world where I think that I wouldn’t cut it.

404 - User No Longer Available > Spanfeller is a twat
05/21/2019 at 00:37

I haven’t been fully living here for years, even though I was born here.

These days it's the culture that's driving me away.

Spanfeller is a twat > 404 - User No Longer Available
05/21/2019 at 00:41

was there a significant change when it was passed over?

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > 404 - User No Longer Available
05/21/2019 at 00:42

I tell myself not to let the Internet tell me what HK is like.

Kind of like I wouldn’t advise a non-’Murican to make conclusions about the US by reading internet comments.

I’ll keep going back to HK until my actual real life experiences become more negative than positive--so far every visit continues to be more good than bad. People just love to be whiners online.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > Spanfeller is a twat
05/21/2019 at 01:19

A lot of people on the Internet will, for various reasons, say yes.

As someone who visits every year, I’d say yeah the place has moved on. Just like the rest of the world. Old problems give way to new problems and they’ll just have to figure it out. Nobody there (or anywhere) would do well to try to live in 1996 forever.

But the daily life and atmosphere is still there. All the things that visitors love about HK are still there, and new things to like are always coming.

NKato > 404 - User No Longer Available
05/21/2019 at 01:59

Drinking spiced apple tea in an attempt to smother my coughing fits. Got sick over the weekend.

Trying to plow through the night shift without randomly dropping dead.

404 - User No Longer Available > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
05/21/2019 at 02:14

Well I can only speak for myself, my family is here and I worked out of Hong Kong for a bit. I mean there are positives (food beats the crap out of Toronto), but the prices, and the simple fact I get “eye-scanned” and get told I dress poorly for things are turn-offs for me.

I don't even care about the political stuff.

404 - User No Longer Available > Svend
05/21/2019 at 02:16

It's for the most part a family visit due to my job changes. I mean I was literally here just a few months back, lol.

404 - User No Longer Available > CB
05/21/2019 at 02:17

Mostly just family time, so relatively uneventful, heh.

Hot. As. Hell. though.

404 - User No Longer Available > NKato
05/21/2019 at 02:19

Hope you get well soon.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > 404 - User No Longer Available
05/21/2019 at 02:45

I’m doing fine aside from being one day closer to death...

Svend > 404 - User No Longer Available
05/21/2019 at 03:31

I hope you enjoy your family visit.

I hear from family and friends Hong Kong has changed since the hand over. A friend (good lass, bit of a nutter. She’s crazy on Hello Kitty. Lol) went back a fortnight ago to see her family.

Her car.

Kinja'd!!!

pip bip - choose Corrour > 404 - User No Longer Available
05/21/2019 at 03:40

fucking marvellous

404 - User No Longer Available > Svend
05/21/2019 at 06:52

Aha... 3 pedals. I was driving my friend’s Boxster a day ago too.

Stef Schrader > 404 - User No Longer Available
05/21/2019 at 08:25

My life’s garbage. I also got sick yesterday and spent most of it barfing up water, yikes. Couldn’t eat food-food until midnightish, at which point I had the single most enjoyable chicken sandwich of all time. Oh, and my aircon’s borked.

What’s for lunch? We demand food shots.

Svend > 404 - User No Longer Available
05/21/2019 at 08:40

She wanted me to clean it so she could put it up for sale.

Her Scottish husband has a DSG VW Tiguan. She wants to borrow it from time to time but he’s said she can’t because then that’ll leave him with a manual Toyota Yaris and though he can drive manual, he just, ‘doesn’t like to ’. She wouldn’t get what she wants for it to pay off the car and have a good amount left to go towards the next car and recently decided it’s not worth the hassle.

She ordered two seat covers and four mats from Hong Kong last year. The seller sent the order in two boxes, one seat cover and two mats in each as to send all of it in one box would cost too much to send, unfortunately, the second box never arrived. So when she went o ver the other week to see family, she got the rest from the seller and brought it back. Lol.

DipodomysDeserti > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
05/21/2019 at 09:54

Buncha whiners

Kinja'd!!!

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > 404 - User No Longer Available
05/21/2019 at 12:38

That’s one thing I’ve always been annoyed with in regard to HKers. It has always been like this, even though I like to think that the younger generation is better.

I’ve heard lots of stories about being asked why my/your/his/her Chinese is poor, style of dress, “oh he’s just slow, he’s not familiar with our ways” etc. Rather than help, people at restaurants will berate you for not understanding how to order. I find the older generation of HKers extremely closed-minded; they are unwilling to entrust the youth with opportunities and wonder why the youth are depressed. I haven’t even gotten to the double standard on mainland tourists vs foreign tourists, which HKers of all age groups are guilty of.

But yeah, I don’t think any of that is related to its political status. Just the way the locals are, including some of my extended family.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > DipodomysDeserti
05/21/2019 at 12:44

Gui Minhai was abducted from Thailand. If you want to talk about the other two booksellers who were supposedly abducted from HK , none of them are willing to talk about the exact circumstances of their kidnappings, not even the one that just fled to Taiwan. So at this point it’s an open-ended police report and will stay that way until someone wants to talk. What really happened and whether there were other (more shady) reasons they ended up in mainland China is anyone’s guess.

Yeah, it sucks, but the public literally has no story to go on and the reporting is more speculative than anything at this point.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > 404 - User No Longer Available
05/21/2019 at 12:55

I stay in Hung Hom, but I hail from the NT. Where in KL?

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
05/21/2019 at 13:06

Sorry, 1 bookseller (Lee Bo)

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > 404 - User No Longer Available
05/21/2019 at 13:11

Boxster in HK?

I’ve only gotten to drive appliance cars there, but based on how narrow the roads are not sure if I’m missing much.

DipodomysDeserti > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
05/21/2019 at 14:52

“ Yeah, it sucks, but the public literally has no story to go on.”

Well, except for the story that Chinese government is abducting booksellers for an unknown reason and not releasing any information about it to the public. It’s just speculation, but seeing as the Chinese government has no problem setting up concentration camps for it’s own citizens, the booksellers are probably worried about getting Stalin’d by Winnie the Pooh.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > DipodomysDeserti
05/21/2019 at 15:07

The speculative reason is that this joint has been known to be mailing banned books into mainland China. One or more of them are also involved in other businesses in the mainland (I forgot which one, could’ve been Gui himself), where it’s plausible and common that deals go foul .

None of that justifies abducting them from external territories and countries, but that’s on the spy-thriller level and something for China, rather than the HK, to answer.

It makes more sense that most of the guys had been detained on the Shenzhen side, though. Lee and Gui are the two real cases of interest.

DipodomysDeserti > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
05/21/2019 at 15:19

My criticisms were aimed at China, not HK. For me the interest is in a state actor abducting its own citizens without giving a cause. Also, the fact that there are banned books in a nation that’s attempting to promote itself as modern.

The scary part to me is that a majority of chinese citizens seem ok with stuff like this as long as it means they can take part in the materialistic aspect of western culture, without offering it’s society the whole “freedom” aspect of western culture.

Godspeed to the people of HK.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > DipodomysDeserti
05/21/2019 at 16:10

No disagreement there, they will just have to answer to a population that is increasingly wealthy and increasingly intelligent/critical-thinking. At some point the Cold War/colonisation era mentality of manipulating the national narrative has got to give way to the rising tide of actual progress and innovation. The CCP is just holding onto it for as long as it can.

DipodomysDeserti > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
05/21/2019 at 16:15

Hopefully.

404 - User No Longer Available > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
05/21/2019 at 18:19

Yeah, friend is living in the Mid-Levels at the moment, so he told me to take the car down to the Digi-Port (correct translation?), Pok Fu Lam, Central then back. The road was pretty clear for the weekend.

He for the most part doesn’t use the car during the weekday, and he’s not the only one I know who has one, lol.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > 404 - User No Longer Available
05/21/2019 at 18:20

Hahaha. Cyberport. Hongkongese for “Yeah, we did mange to shoehorn some offices and retail here and there , can we put up a gazillion 60-floor condo towers now?”

404 - User No Longer Available > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
05/21/2019 at 18:21

Parents are in KLT, I’m in HMT near Yau Ma Tei usually . So we’re kinda close by, hah.

404 - User No Longer Available > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
05/21/2019 at 18:32

Well to further illustrate my point on what I mean by culture, here’s a potato-quality picture:

Kinja'd!!!

Notice how the “Close” button is just rubbed off? You see this in all the elevators in Hong Kong. Everyone seems to be anxious and tensed for no good reason at all, always in a rush to go somewhere . I mean, in “better” sounding terms, like Donald Tsang once said “the combatant spirit of Hong Kong.”

Being someone who already has anxiety problems, this is a non-starter for me to come back. A gain... this is all just my personal observation, lol.

404 - User No Longer Available > Svend
05/21/2019 at 18:43

She ordered two seat covers and four mats from Hong Kong last year. The seller sent the order in two boxes, one seat cover and two mats in each as to send all of it in one box would cost too much to send, unfortunately, the second box never arrived. So when she went over the other week to see family, she got the rest from the seller and brought it back. Lol.

That actually sounds more like Taobao / Aliexpress rather than Hong Kong... I mean everything these days come from China.

404 - User No Longer Available > Stef Schrader
05/21/2019 at 18:44

Nothing fancy... it was more like a lunchbox of food designed for students (and there were a lot of students lining up) , lol.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > 404 - User No Longer Available
05/21/2019 at 19:00

Yeah, people want to be seen as busy, and eventually it becomes habitual. The place being crowded AF makes it worse; people want to get to a place where you don’t have a hundred randos in your face.

I sorta see it here in CA as well, always need to appear to be busy or in the middle of achieving something, for fear of appearing to be lazy. People with low self-esteem always talking about how they were accomplishing this and that for their entire weekends .

To some extent people need to practise some DGAF in their lives.

Svend > 404 - User No Longer Available
05/21/2019 at 19:17

Aliexpress sounds familiar now you mention it.