What's Become of Pixar?

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
05/20/2019 at 13:40 • Filed to: None

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This is a compelling and insightful analysis. “Up” was one of my favorite movies I’ve ever viewed.

DISCUSSION (47)

Nibby > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/20/2019 at 13:47

the lamp’s bulb needs to be replaced after all these years

Just Jeepin' > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/20/2019 at 13:52

I was a huge Pixar fan for years, and I really feel the loss. I’d be hard-pressed to name my favorite, but WALL-E and Ratatouille are up there with the best films I’ve ever seen.

Nothing lasts forever.

Cash Rewards > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/20/2019 at 13:53

Up was a beautiful movie, even if the beginning makes it nearly unable to be rewatched by me. Such a tough hump to get over, but the movie hinges on it.

For Sweden > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/20/2019 at 13:57

They make movies that aren’t Cars , which is dumb.

Ash78, voting early and often > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/20/2019 at 14:00

Cars 1 and Cars 3 are both excellent, IMO.

I felt like Wall-E was a little derivative, and that Toy Story 3 was nowhere near as good as the first two.

Up was absolutely fantastic.

I just saw Brave on Saturday for the first time ever — underrated, very good. I don’t know how I ever missed it.

Inside Out was also pretty solid, but easily overlooked.

I had to type this while I read -- because f or me, I just can’t differentiate the Disney Animation Studios films from Pixar anymore.

Ash78, voting early and often > Just Jeepin'
05/20/2019 at 14:03

Yeah, Ratatouille was pretty epic across the board.

Ash78, voting early and often > Cash Rewards
05/20/2019 at 14:04

You mean the part where they’re chopping onions?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Nibby
05/20/2019 at 14:07

John Lasseter’s bulb has been dimmed, if the analysis is to be believed.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/20/2019 at 14:08

No mention of John Lasseter’s sins?

phenotyp > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/20/2019 at 14:08

No one is a powerhouse in perpetuity.

There are a million lessons in both the ‘do this’ and ‘don’t do this’ with Pixar . I’m looking forward to what’s next. They set a bar so hard to get through, it’ll take real people telling real stories, and really fucking good artists to make those stories visible and coherent for audiences.

It’s the artists who make the production work for people, and who make the big bucks for Disney. And they’re the expendable/disposable part of the production.

Sorry I don’t have a pithy remark for this one. It’s just sad all around. Lightning in a bottle, and all that.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Cash Rewards
05/20/2019 at 14:09

Does it hit home for you? That part where Sadness gives comfort is deeply moving. And, of course, the dad flipping out: hits too close to home for me ...

Reading the article provided explanation to me of aspects of the complexity of the movie that I never realized before.

My bird IS the word > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/20/2019 at 14:11

I’m thinking most of the talent got pillaged to disney’s main animation wing

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > For Sweden
05/20/2019 at 14:11

I liked Cars a lot more than this story’s writer did. I thought the movie was intentionally cute, but not unsophisticated, while capturing the feel of the road. Good stuff. Haven’t seen the sequel.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
05/20/2019 at 14:12

#metoo?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > phenotyp
05/20/2019 at 14:13

I feel you. In the end, some people chose money over creative license. That’s the sellout.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > My bird IS the word
05/20/2019 at 14:14

As I said in a different reply, I think some money sold their creative license for money, plain and simple. Money wins.

Discerning > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/20/2019 at 14:21

John Lasseter is a piece of shit and I’m glad he’s gone from Disney. Of course now he’s at Skydance, but I’m not surprised another company gave this piece of shit a job. Skydance sucks for bringing him on

Discerning > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
05/20/2019 at 14:22

This. Fuck that guy

RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/20/2019 at 14:22

Cars 2 is as bad as advertised. Save your time and money unless you have a toddler to entertain.

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/20/2019 at 14:24

Skip Cars 2. It’s garbage. Cars 3, however, is very good.

Have you seen Inside Out?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Discerning
05/20/2019 at 14:29

Well, I’m glad you got that off your chest. I’d forgotten about that bit of Lasseter’s history.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire
05/20/2019 at 14:29

I’d not have gone out of my way to view it. I’d rather spend my time watching obscure Marathi-language Indian crime drama.

Discerning > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/20/2019 at 14:30

Lol. I mean, it made news about a year ago but apparently it was going on for years. People like that shouldn’t be in the workforce, let alone making children’s movies.

Skydance even launched an investigation before they hired him: https://www.cartoonbrew.com/artist-rights/is-skydance-endangering-its-female-employees-here-is-a-list-of-accusations-against-john-lasseter-168942.html

Im disappointed they chose to hire him.

Ash78, voting early and often > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/20/2019 at 14:53

I’ll never forget how Disney fired him in the late 80s for saying CGI would be the wave of the future. Then they rehired him back a few years later. Whoops.

Ash78, voting early and often > RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire
05/20/2019 at 14:54

IMO Cars 2 wavers between terrifying and just confusing for little kids. Such a weird way to miss the mark. They made it for adults. Kids generally don’t give a crap about spy movies.

Cash Rewards > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/20/2019 at 15:07

Hold on, are you thinking about inside out? I haven’t seen that. Up was with the old man who takes his house up on balloons, with the boy scout tagging along. The intro goes from his as a boy with the girl next door, through marriage, lost pregnancy, life in general, to the death of the wife, all while trying to save up for a trip that never happens. Movie starts with him as the old man telling the world to get off his porch. It is brutally sad. I warned my wife, who thought "if you tell me what happens, it won't be sad when I see it". We had to stop the movie so she could cry it out. "It was so much worse than you said!"

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn
05/20/2019 at 15:07

I was mistaking “Up” for “Inside Out.” “Inside Out” is phenomenal, IMHO.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Discerning
05/20/2019 at 15:08

Money.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
05/20/2019 at 15:09

John Lasseter isn't Pixar.

Pickup_man > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/20/2019 at 15:10

I was genuinely upset (and still am) at the announcement of Toy Story 4, Toy Story was a staple of my child hood, and coincidentally put me and Andy within a year of the same “ age” so it was very easy to relate. I thought TS3 ended things perfectly and to hear that Disney/Pixar is now going to rip that apart for what is clearly a money grab is really disappointing . I’m sure I will watch it eventually, but I’m going to make a point to not see it theaters.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Cash Rewards
05/20/2019 at 15:10

Yes, I transposed the two. I found the movie excellent, though emotionally difficult to enjoy. Very poignant.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > TheTurbochargedSquirrel
05/20/2019 at 15:13

No, but surprised there was no mention in the article (but it’s an old article - maybe published before it was well-known).

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Pickup_man
05/20/2019 at 15:20

I have strong feelings about all of this. I personally do not like going to theaters, much preferring my 52-inch plasma television, Wifey, and popcorn with olive oil on it. I also have a difficult time submitting to feature-length films generally, though some, I enjoy.

The original Pixar stuff is so poignant that anyone who views the films winds up making an emotional investment and is then, somehow vested. I think this is what you are saying. So now, instead of giving us content like “Inside Out,” they’re trying to get us on amusement park rides. Amusement parks, in my opinion, are generally gross and I avoid them because ( lots of ) money. But that’s just my opinion.

Generally speaking, if droves of people are paying money to do something, I’m avoiding that thing until it becomes less expensive, or the crowds have thinned.

Anyhow, there’s my $0.02.

Cash Rewards > Ash78, voting early and often
05/20/2019 at 15:31

That and my allergies. Doesn’t matter what time of year I see that movie, my allergies just flare up, eyes start watering, and I get the sniffles

Pickup_man > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/20/2019 at 15:44

I still enjoy the theater , even though I do have a projector setup at home, but I’ll usually only go to some of the really big movies (Endgame).

I agree with all of this. However I don’t think we’re the target audience anymore, I think Disney is after the kids who’s parents have grown up on classic Pixar, and have introduced it to their kids, but the kids don’t realize yet that these new sequels are in fact bad. Kids just want all the Toy Story/Frozen/insert- popular- movie- here they can get. Kids also love amusement park rides, and they don’t have to pay for them. I’m sure Disney is banking on parents who are willing to pay for their kids to experience those things.

arl > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/20/2019 at 16:06

Does Pixar still make movies? I had no idea...

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/20/2019 at 16:47

I still have not seen Up.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Pickup_man
05/20/2019 at 17:44

That’s an interesting take and I think you made it to the next level past where the writer had gone. Very insightful.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn
05/20/2019 at 17:47

Up has much sad about it. Uplifting overall, with some great dog humor, but much sad.

shop-teacher > ttyymmnn
05/20/2019 at 19:36

Up is fantastic. I still can't make it through the opening sequence without tearing up (I am a big softie), but it is a genuinely great movie. It gets happier too.

shop-teacher > Cash Rewards
05/20/2019 at 19:38

I still can't get through the opening without at least a year or two. I've taken to playing with my phone during that sequence. The movie is so good though.

shop-teacher > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/20/2019 at 19:46

That article lost me in the opening paragraph. Cars was a fantastic movie. Movie reviewers don’t understand cars, so Cars gets lost in translation to them. Cars 2 was indeed a piece of shit. It was so clearly written to have as many characters as possible, so they could sell gobs and gobs of merch. I turned that pile of crap off about 1/3 of the way through it. The person we borrowed it from was actually disappointed to get it back . I haven’t watched 3 yet, but gear it was good.

I actually liked Incredibles 2 more than the original. It dealt with some deep and genuine marital and familial issues, and I liked that the family wasn’t constantly fighting with each other like in the original.

Cash Rewards > shop-teacher
05/20/2019 at 20:25

It is a good movie, and wouldn't be nearly as good without it. Still don't want to watch that part again

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > My bird IS the word
05/20/2019 at 21:32

My friends brother worked for them briefly before being pulled over to disney. I think a lot of the moti vation was to pull talent.

shop-teacher > Cash Rewards
05/20/2019 at 21:50

Yes, totally agree.

My bird IS the word > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
05/20/2019 at 22:47

I mean, generally buyouts like this are to cannibalize and sell or fold. If they can’t attract the talent then they just buy the company that hires the talent.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > shop-teacher
05/20/2019 at 22:47

I’m with you. Cars was a home run, not intended to be any more nor any less than what it was.