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"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn) 04/22/2019 at 09:00 • Filed to: None

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I hear some of you like to ID old cars. Have at it.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > ttyymmnn 04/22/2019 at 09:12

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I’m working sick, so I won’t be as into this as usual, but I’ll snipe a few easy ones.

‘39 Plymouth and a Packard 120:

Party-vi > ttyymmnn 04/22/2019 at 09:12

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That’s a very cool photo - any context?

ETA: nvm - I followed your link.

facw > ttyymmnn 04/22/2019 at 09:16

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Hmm, don’t think I can track this location down. Duke’s football stadium opened in 1929, so the general location is known, but there’s not a ‘y’-shaped intersection quite like that nearby. There are a couple places where it might have been, but the terrain is different enough I can’t say for certain. It seems like there’s something on top of that hill, but I can’t quite nail it down.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/22/2019 at 09:16

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~’36 Pontiac.

fintail > ttyymmnn 04/22/2019 at 09:48

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Cool pic, I am surprised at the lack of “oldies” in the pic, I see only a couple older cars - at least one is likely a Model A tudor.

Car near the camera at left with a man in a hat about to put his hand on the fender appears to be a 36 Cadillac. Car nearest at right is a then apparently brand new 40 Ford.

ttyymmnn > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/22/2019 at 10:33

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Feel better. 

ttyymmnn > facw 04/22/2019 at 10:33

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I would imagine that’s all dormitories and other campus buildings now. 

ttyymmnn > fintail 04/22/2019 at 10:34

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It must have been hell finding your car after the game. 

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > ttyymmnn 04/22/2019 at 10:41

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Thanks. I spent quite a lot of yesterday, most of saturday, most of friday in bed. A really virulent cough that started coming on *a week ago* and reached critical mass just in time for the weekend. Even with medication, too much coughing to sleep, and a comorbid headache and possibly fever.

I dragged myself in because I expect the sales department to be able to cope without me making drawings about as far as I can throw them. Still may bail out.

ttyymmnn > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/22/2019 at 10:42

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Sounds a bit like my oldest son. He’s had a nagging cough for at least a week now, and he spent a lot of yesterday in bed. He said it’s allergies, but I think it’s more like a URI. 

fintail > ttyymmnn 04/22/2019 at 12:01

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People like to point to this era of cars when others complain about cars looking alike today.  Then there are the weirdos like me who can distinguish these old timers.

ttyymmnn > fintail 04/22/2019 at 12:58

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On my bike ride this morning, I was thinking about your comment on the lack of older cars. Considering the state of the postwar economy, I imagine that many, many people went out and bought a brand new car.

As the Cold War unfolded in the decade and a half after World War II, the United States experienced phenomenal economic growth. The war brought the return of prosperity, and in the postwar period the United States consolidated its position as the world’s richest country. Gross national product, a measure of all goods and services produced in the United States, jumped from about $200 thousand-million in 1940 to $300 thousand-million in 1950 to more than $500 thousand-million in 1960. More and more Americans now considered themselves part of the middle class.

The growth had different sources. The automobile industry was partially responsible, as the number of automobiles produced annually quadrupled between 1946 and 1955. A housing boom, stimulated in part by easily affordable mortgages for returning servicemen, fueled the expansion. The rise in defense spending as the Cold War escalated also played a part. ( via )

just-a-scratch > ttyymmnn 04/22/2019 at 13:00

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...especially when all the cars are black or grey.  ;)

fintail > ttyymmnn 04/22/2019 at 13:39

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This pic, on the eve of war, might show that people were buying new cars in anticipation of future issues.  Also, the economy had improved a lot by late 1939, and the war machine was just starting to ramp up.  Cars didn’t age so well then either, usually worn out long before their 10th birthday.

ttyymmnn > fintail 04/22/2019 at 13:56

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Now here I’m guilty of not reading my own post. I assumed the date was postwar, when it was really 1939. 

fintail > ttyymmnn 04/22/2019 at 15:55

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And quite a few new or near new cars in the pic too.

Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. > fintail 04/23/2019 at 09:18

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What’s funny is that if you put them next to a cross over...

fintail > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. 04/23/2019 at 09:24

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Those mid 30s cars with a tall ride height and more vertical rear ends (bustle trunk included) do seem to be the inspiration for modern trends, the only difference being perhaps better aesthetics on the oldies.

And maybe not a huge stretch from this:

To this style:

Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. > fintail 04/23/2019 at 09:32

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It actually makes me wonder if the “Long and low” movement started by the Buick Y-Job played itself out and people are shifting more towards comfort of the more vertical position vs. the stability of a low slung platform. With increasingly autonomous cars, maybe the future is in the Stout Scarab?

fintail > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. 04/23/2019 at 09:48

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I think the false pretense of ruggedness, sometimes dubious implications of safety, and easier ingress/egress for aging populations work  against the “low” ideal more than anything. Certain groups with a lot of purchasing power love their faux-butch CUVs and bloated SUVs.

If/when full autonomy takes over, most cars likely will indeed become pods with many seating configurations.