Question time. Inspired by this Grand Tour Episode

"KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time" (kngt) 04/03/2019 at 10:13 • Filed to: ask Oppo, grand touring, GT cars, grand touring cars

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Sure they’re great Grand Tourers but cost a minimum of $100K new. So my question is what is the best affordable Grand Tourer today? (say roughly limit <$50K new, or<$30K used). They’re typically front-engine, rear-wheel-drive two-door coupé with either a two-seat or a 2+2 arrangement but let’s open up the options a little so include sedans as well.

My vote- Lexus Rc350

Quiet, smooth good V6, comfortable and refined, you can do multiple cross country trips and nothing will fail. Shortcomings will be the touchpad infotainment system, small truck 10 Cuft. Sportier faster alternatives are available, obviously .

TahoeSTi > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 10:11

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Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 10:12

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Any V8 Dodge Challenger really. lots of interior and trunk space and plenty of power

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 04/03/2019 at 10:13

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Good one. Built the most luxury and comfort oriented 5.7 Hemi Challenger for under $46 K with leather, all the tech and safety features+ Hk audio and sunroof

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 10:15

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(Note: used they’re in the upper 20s though probably not the coach version yet)

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 10:17

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Depending on mileage, you can get a reasonably new Sierra Denali for less than 30k. You’re going to have to shop because that’s the price they seem to be trading. However, I was surprised at the interior quality and the long wheelbase will dampen hitting a crater. 

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 04/03/2019 at 10:17

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This!

Hell even the top model V6s have more than enough grunt for a GT.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 04/03/2019 at 10:20

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I said let’s open up the options a little but doesn’t mean pickups LOL.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind 04/03/2019 at 10:22

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MKZ is about the right size and not a land-barge , plus it’s a sleeper with the 3.0T AWD 400 HP, 400 Lb ft torque, 0-60 in 4.8 seconds.

InFierority Complex > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 10:25

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Corvette? 

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > TahoeSTi 04/03/2019 at 10:25

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GT in the name itself of course. Speaking of which...

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > InFierority Complex 04/03/2019 at 10:27

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N ever driven one, so donno if it is a cross-country GT car . I’ve heard it   gets 30MPG on the highway though.

i86hotdogs > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 10:27

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I like your style, but I’d add the classic package. Those classic II wheels look sharp on the Challenger. I wish you could get those on all trims

Thomas Donohue > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 10:28

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2014-2016 MB E550 Coupe (koo-PAY!)

400hp 4.7l twin-turbo V8, 443 torques @ 1600rpm

You can find a CPO for under $30k now.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 10:29

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I’m not going to offer up used suggestions since I could prattle on forever with big old luxury coupes. But for under $50k new? I’d say the C-Class coupe.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Thomas Donohue 04/03/2019 at 10:31

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Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 10:34

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https://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/d/bristow-1985-jaguar-xjs/6822618155.html

412GTI > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 10:34

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Did somebody say coupe?!

If Infiniti could get their shit together, my real answer would be the Q60. 

Thomas Donohue > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 10:36

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Edited to add that you can find them CPO for $30k, which I think would be wise.  You can find them much lower otherwise.  Personally I’d go for a 2014 sedan.  Sleeper city.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > 412GTI 04/03/2019 at 10:38

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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 04/03/2019 at 10:38

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That’s...interesting

VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 10:44

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The Stingray is pretty GT-able. The main problem is the road noise, ride comfort in Eco is pretty good. Depends on how aggressively sporty the tires are, oem Michelin PSS is decent for a sport tire. You'd want the optional MagneRide on the Stingray and then swap to more cushy tires. It can be done. 

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > i86hotdogs 04/03/2019 at 10:44

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That does look nice, and $1295 so not too bad

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 10:49

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Well then. A Cadillac XTS. Can be found out of rental fleets even with the V6. Heated and cooled seats, a good exhaust note and buttery ride. 

Future next gen S2000 owner > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 10:55

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Base C7 Corvette. They are running up to about  10K off MSRP right now.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/755119586/overview/

Future next gen S2000 owner > InFierority Complex 04/03/2019 at 11:00

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I second this. You can pick up base Corvette’s for mid 40's.

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 11:12

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Aren’t GT cars supposed to be Land Barges (tm)?

i86hotdogs > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 11:13

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I’d do the F8 and white RT stripe though. T’each their own.

Spanfeller is a twat > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 11:25

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The Kia Stinger is a highway killer

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 11:27

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Right make wrong model. LS500

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/03/2019 at 11:28

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An d how much is an LS500? New? used?

Shift24 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 11:28

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New to newish: Chevy SS or Dodge Charger. The SS was comfortable in its only trim and when you got up there in trims the Charger was a nice place to be.

Used:   C63 AMG (W204) , God those things are a thing of Beauty. Used with no miles is just under $30k

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/03/2019 at 11:32

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(Thought it said 100k. Whoops. I did find one at Merc with 15k miles for $66k though.)

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Shift24 04/03/2019 at 11:32

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Chrysler 300C as well. More quieter than the Charger, can be had with perforated leather, cooled and heated seats and heated steering wheel, rear heated seats and with the 5.7 V8 will eat up highway miles and sound good. Some models even have heated/cooled cupholders!

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 11:33

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Check my reply

GoodIdeaAtTheTime > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 11:33

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Maserati Cambicorsa? This one is about 25k.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-Maserati-Coupe-GT-Cambio-Corsa/323738381615?hash=item4b604fad2f:g:b-sAAOSw5cZcNsKL

I’ve driven one across the country and back. Smooth and comfortable. Didn’t miss a beat. 

Shift24 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 11:43

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I did not know that and that is a cool feature . I am just not a fan of the styling though I do understand why people step up to the 300.

Arrivederci > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 11:52

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B8.5 S5. Reliable with the 3.0T, and easy enough to find at $30k or less.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 12:11

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Base C7 Corvette. Lazy V8, great handling, reasonably comfortable, plenty of storage in the hatch. 

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 04/03/2019 at 12:12

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Also the correct number of doors. Stop being fooled by the Germans, a 4 door isn’t a GT. 

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 12:24

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Under 30k, 6-speed manual OR a very nice DSG, plenty of room, comfy seats, smooth suspension, great handling, adequate power. In terms of touring per dollar, all hail the GTI.

Tristan > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 12:29

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I just did a build & price for how I’d do it... White, R/T 5.7, 6-speed, cloth seats and the only options are the $495 heated seats/steering wheel and the $495 “wheels that aren’t shitty black wheels” package.

$36,530

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 12:38

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the best grand tourer

LastFirstMI is my name > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 12:47

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If the point of a GT car is to look good while doing it, give me an XK.

BigBlock440 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 12:53

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The question is, what exactly is “grand touring”?  

Pickup_man > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 12:55

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Porsche 924.

Not a fast or powerful car, but my old one would sit at 90 all day long. Find one that isn’t a pile like mine was and they’re great little cars. 

Poor_Sh > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/03/2019 at 13:03

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Manual Jaguar F-Type  

BeaterGT > Future next gen S2000 owner 04/03/2019 at 13:37

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Practically no options but damn, these prices are looking real good.