Unnecessary boat shopping

"Future next gen S2000 owner" (future-next-gen-s2000-owner)
04/01/2019 at 16:24 • Filed to: boatlopnik

Another day, another boat I want to buy. I saw this one last fall. I think somewhere between 15-16K would take it.

A legit 60 mph boat. Want.

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DISCUSSION (11)

Sovande > Future next gen S2000 owner
04/01/2019 at 16:57

If you think parts costs are high on Volvo cars, wait til you start pricing Volvo marine parts...

I am not a big fan of having a big hole in the transom of a boat below the water line which is essentially what you have with an I/O. The only thing keeping the boat from sinking is a rubber bellows. I know they have been around forever and with proper (yearly) maintenance they are probably fine but...

Also, I would be shocked if that boat could hit 60 with anything but a light load of fuel and one person on board.

Future next gen S2000 owner > Sovande
04/01/2019 at 17:04

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True, but 60 is still 60. the advantage of I/O’s is the big sun platform. Plus all boats have a drain plug, so regardless of engine option, that is the only thing keeping you floating.

http://www.stingrayboats.com/boat_performance/radar_gun/linegraph.php

Sovande > Future next gen S2000 owner
04/01/2019 at 17:17

Counterpoint is that the engine and sun pad take up actual deck space where an outboard gives you a ton more room inside the boat.

The difference with a drain plug is that the hole is about 3/4" versus a 8" x12" hole. At least with a missing drain plug you have a chance that the bilge pump can keep up. I had a 1.5" hose let go from a through hull fitting for a live well and the pumps kept up until I figured out the problem.

And my straight inboard doesn’t have a drain plug, just a shaft log with a dripless seal where the shaft exits the boat.

It’s all a compromise! I lose speed with the inboard, but I gain a ton of stability and room. Plus I can plow through anything at 22 knots while sipping diesel and I don’t mind slow and steady on the water.

Future next gen S2000 owner > Sovande
04/01/2019 at 17:24

I need my sun pad! How else am I supposed to tan and drink beer?

Sovande > Future next gen S2000 owner
04/01/2019 at 17:41

In a seat?

Future next gen S2000 owner > Sovande
04/01/2019 at 17:55

psht. I need to lay out.

Sovande > Future next gen S2000 owner
04/01/2019 at 17:57

Ha. Fair enough!

Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom > Future next gen S2000 owner
04/01/2019 at 18:08

Nice. My last boat was a 25' Mariah bowrider, which was a great party boat and went fast enough to keep things fun. I/O is not a big deal if you do a good inspection of the leg and bellows/ hoses before launch every spring.

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > Future next gen S2000 owner
04/02/2019 at 00:04

I don’t recall that model hitting 60 with that engine... and it certainly would not at altitude. Maybe 60 indicated on the dash, if you fiddled with the calibration on the back of the gauge ... That said, they must be smoking something on those boat prices in Denver. If that boat really has been treated well and maintained to the nth degree, it might be worth 10k.

Future next gen S2000 owner > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com
04/02/2019 at 10:22

It’s the spring time, plus a limited market. I’d love ot konw any place in the Us I could get that boat for 10K. It did hit 60 on radar though. Stingray loves to trumpet the top end on it’s models.

http://www.stingrayboats.com/boat_performance/radar_gun/linegraph.php

To be fair, they generally are faster on the top end compared to their direct competitors.

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > Future next gen S2000 owner
04/02/2019 at 12:51

There’s a big difference between something that eeks out 60 at sea level on cool day and running at elevation on a 100 degree afternoon . The generally accepted engineering formulas are 3.5% HP loss for every 1000ft in elevation, and 1% for every 10 degrees over standard temperature. Even after rear gearing and/or reprop ing a boat for running at altitude, you still usually expect to see a top speed loss in the 5-10mph range. That’s something to keep in mind when reading boat reviews and tests.

Stingray’s speed advantage is well known. They build a light, efficient hull and a usually shallower than normal for size dead rise angles at the stern. Both of those things have trade offs. Between the lightweight construction and lower price point Stingrays are built to, they’re not known as tremendously high quality boats. They’re certainly a step above a B ayliner (who, to be fair, have really upped their quality game over the last decade along with the industry as a whole), but they compete with the Glastrons and the like of the boat world . Also, th at conservative deadrise will certainly reduce drag and increase speed, but it comes at a very real cost in ride comfort and how the boat takes a wave.

Going fast is fun, but it is something that you do for an exceeding small amount of time on the water. Going 50+ on the water only happens under the smoothest of conditions. Any chop or even just wakes from other boats in the area is going to end that activity. The fuel burn of a boat at WOT is astonishing. Back in the day when fuel was $1.10 gallon, we skied a lot more and ran faster a whole lot more often then we do now. In the 90's we burned 25-30 gallons of fuel in an average day at the lake with the boat . These days, we average 7-10 gallons a day (at around $4.50/gallon at the marina) . I’d take a heavy, steep and deep hull for size any day at the expense of some top speed . It makes for a more versatile and enjoyable boat.

A quick look at Albuquerq ue’s list o’ Craig shows up plenty of comparable 17-19ft runabouts for a lot less money:

https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/boa/d/edgewood-1996-celebrity/6848876067.html

https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/boa/d/maricopa-2002-crownline/6852589567.html

https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/boa/d/albuquerque-2005-bayliner/6853251163.html

https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/boa/d/rio-rancho-maxum-mercruiser-454/6835304002.html (If you want to go fast, here’s what I probably buy at the moment on Craig slist)

For 15K, here’s what I would buy that is still towable with a not outrageously large truck (and its probably a bit overpriced, but some negotiation would probably net a reasonable deal) :

https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/bod/d/albuquerque-2001-searay-weekender/6850043862.html