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"Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness" (long-voyager-2nd-edition) 04/01/2019 at 10:14 • Filed to: unnecessary car shopping with Long-Voyager

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Talking the wife into this: !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!!

2018 Charger SXT, 40k miles, factory bumper to bumper warranty to 100k. They’re asking $17,975 for it.

I drove it Friday after work and I loved it. Great ride, quiet, plenty of power. SO MUCH WANT.

Link in reply.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 07:29

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https://www.russdarrowchryslerjeep.com/certified/Dodge/2018-Dodge-Charger-Madison+WI-777bb6360a0e0ae74d0e988430838f60.htm

Wacko > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 07:38

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thats a funny looking caravan

pip bip - choose Corrour > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 07:45

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too new for you  isn’t it?

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 07:51

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Safety, comfort, good mpgs. Logical choice. 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 07:54

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Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 07:55

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I rented a black one just like that when I was in between cars. The one I crave had AWD with the base V6. So even though it was technically the slowest version, I found it had plenty of power.

I’ve read Some saying the automatic isn’t that great, but I thought it was perfectly fine.

I averaged about 10L/100km.

I liked it a lot too though it was a little on the big side for me given I’m one of those city slickers.

The only issues I had was the sat-nav system sometimes change the station on its own when hitting a bump in cold weather.

And I ran into an issue where the car would not let me shift it out of neutral... which resulted in a tow.   Apparently a weak/defective battery can cause that I was told.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 07:56

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ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 08:00

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You are gonna swap the Pentastar from this into one of your Caravans, isn’t it?

Seriously, its got a great warranty , its comfortable, big and fast enough to get out of its own way.

nerd_racing > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 08:03

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April Fools? 

diplodicus forgot his password > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 08:06

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I’m pretty sure the 7yr/100k mi warranty is powertrain only. At least that’s what I was told when I looked at one the other day. The “bumper to bumper” is 3yr 36k

Tohru > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 08:20

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That’s really high miles for a 2018. Did they live in it?

Nibby > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 08:28

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they’re pretty underrated cars actually... roomy, comfy, quick and even a bit fun to drive.

Chuckles > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 08:40

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What part do you need help with? Is she opposed to the price or the fact that it's not a van? Or does she just think that you don't need another vehicle?

i86hotdogs > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 08:40

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If its an April Fools joke, I laughed. If it isn’t, its a good find! I alw ays thought the base trims of these looked really soft. Without the RT or SRT bumpers and trim, they look doughy. At least a small decklid spoiler will help

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Nibby 04/01/2019 at 08:40

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TIL a Charger was considered underrated...lol what

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > diplodicus forgot his password 04/01/2019 at 08:51

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In other words, this one at 40k miles already is ready to torment its next owner?

diplodicus forgot his password > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 04/01/2019 at 09:09

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Idk not sure if these really have any issues to worry about.

JustAnotherG6 > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 09:14

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My only comment on these is: if it has a sunroof I have a hard time sitting in the passenger seat for more than 30 min. I have a torso that is much too long.

Arrivederci > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 09:27

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LOL April Fools.  We know you only buy old Caravans.

vondon302 > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 09:32

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Tell her it’s so much safer. Not a bad deal really and the v6 moves these things pretty good. Is the extended warranty third party?

My wife talked me into this on Saturday.

Full report coming soon

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > vondon302 04/01/2019 at 10:03

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The warranty is offered through the dealer. 7yr/100k bumper to bumper.

She doesn’t want a car payment, which I don’t disagree with, but I have been spending a lot on what we have lately, so it would be a wash in the end.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > Arrivederci 04/01/2019 at 10:05

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False:

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > JustAnotherG6 04/01/2019 at 10:06

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Interesting. No sunroof, but I found it quite roomy for a modern car.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > i86hotdogs 04/01/2019 at 10:06

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It’s really not a joke. I wish I could talk her into it.

Arrivederci > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 10:07

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Pretty sure those are reskinned Caravans, bro.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > Chuckles 04/01/2019 at 10:07

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She doesn’t want a car payment again. I don’t disagree, but I’ve been spending a lot on what we have lately, so it’d likely be a wash.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > Nibby 04/01/2019 at 10:08

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It was a really nice driving car. 

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > pip bip - choose Corrour 04/01/2019 at 10:08

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Getting old....

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 04/01/2019 at 10:09

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I see no need for AWD honestly. If the roads are that bad, I’d take the van anyway.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability 04/01/2019 at 10:10

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Na, too much work.

Honestly just craving a nice comfy daily/run-about. Always had a soft spot for the Chargers.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > nerd_racing 04/01/2019 at 10:10

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Nope.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > diplodicus forgot his password 04/01/2019 at 10:11

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7yr/100k mi bumper to bumper is offered through the dealer. It’s a $100 deductible.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 04/01/2019 at 10:12

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The Chargers/Challengers are pretty trouble free from what I’ve found.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > Tohru 04/01/2019 at 10:13

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It was a fleet vehicle from an insurance agency from what I was told, so it racked up a lot of miles.

ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 10:17

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Chargers are great for that purpose. They also look really good, to me.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 10:18

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I mean, if you can comfortably afford it, do what you must. Wonder why she doesn’t want a payment though?

Chuckles > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 10:22

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Maybe it would be helpful to compile a summary of everything that you spent last year to keep your fleet on the road. Show her that just because you didn't have a car payment doesn't mean that you didn't spend money on cars. And account for your time too. How many hours did you spend wrenching and sourcing parts?

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 10:35

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I like the charger, I’ve had them as rental cars. I do how ever feel that $18k is a bit steep for a car with 45,000 miles on it.

Chuckles > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 10:41

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If it is really nice to drive, let her drive it. Even just getting her to sit in it might help her appreciate how nice it is.

shop-teacher > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 10:57

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Its a hell of a lot safer in a crash than the other vehicles you drive .

Chariotoflove > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 10:58

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I love the stormtrooper car.

What you need to do is get out your receipts and figure out the costs on your current vehicles vs the cost of buying this one. Also, what are you thinking of selling to accommodate this?  That could tilt the equation in its favor. 

412GTI > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 10:58

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Looks like a decent deal even with that mileage (which shouldn’t be a big issue with a Pentastar Charger).

I enjoyed my time in an 18 SXT rental I had for a road trip. Super comfortable, quiet, and retuned damn near 31 mpg which is downright impressive for it’s size. 

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 10:58

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Yeah... I agree. And if you ever have to tow it, the AWD versions are more expensive to tow because they have to be towed with all 4 wheels off the ground.

If it was my money, I would pick the RWD one over AWD as well.

And the RWD ones weigh a bit less and get a bit better fuel economy.

Shift24 > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 11:32

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Doesnt look bad and hell of alot of car for $18k. Im not a fan of the Pentastar, but they are like the GM 3.6l V6, i ts in everything.

One thing to definitely try to point out is those tires, they look to be getting low tread wise. Again only can see from photos but they look like they have 40k+ on them

Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 11:36

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I wish you luck but I’ve found no matter what I think my wife would want for a car; she has other plans. 

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle 04/01/2019 at 11:58

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We’re usually on the same page when it comes to this stuff, or at least able to find a middle ground. 

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > Shift24 04/01/2019 at 12:00

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I hate the Pentastar in the vans, but in the cars with the 8-speed they seem well matched.

It has been detailed and had brand new Firehawks put on it since those pictures. It looks like a brand new car inside/outside/under hood.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > Chariotoflove 04/01/2019 at 12:02

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The Acclaim would be removed from the equation, but given it’s not worth much, I would just give it to my nephew as he’s already expressed interest in it.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > shop-teacher 04/01/2019 at 12:03

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Only if I crash......... ;)

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 04/01/2019 at 12:07

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It’s been really nice not having one, plus we’ve just been sticking away the money from the truck payment since we paid it off over a year ago, so we’re acquiring a decent amount of money.

The ultimate plan is to save enough to put down a good payment on a different house, which a car payment would detract from.

Likewise, we can easily put $5-7k down on it, which will put our payments around $150/month on a 4 yr loan. We pay $300/month, it’ll be paid off in 2 yrs. Then we’ll have a paid for car still under warranty and still be able to save for the house.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > Chuckles 04/01/2019 at 12:10

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This is a good idea.

Maybe seeing how much time I spend in the garage + what I’ve spent already this year would be a big eye opener. Plus it would show her I’m not just kicking tires, I seriously want to spend less time in the garage.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 04/01/2019 at 12:12

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Eh, it seems cheap for a 2018 around here. $17k is usually 2015 with 100k money in this area.

Chuckles > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 12:23

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Any plans to thin out the fleet so you aren't just adding yet another vehicle?

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > Chuckles 04/01/2019 at 12:26

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I would give the Acclaim to my nephew. He’s looking for something fun/unique for his first car and he loves it more than I do, so I’d just give it to him.

I may even think about selling the 92 Caravan, because at that point a 3rd vehicle wouldn’t be needed.

Chuckles > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 12:34

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Nothing wrong with giving a car to a relative as long as they understand that any future expenses are on them. Sure, help him fix it but he needs to pay for those parts.

The more you can simplify the fleet, the easier it should be to get the wife on board.

shop-teacher > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 12:43

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That’s not always in your control.

Shift24 > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/01/2019 at 13:16

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I have only been in an SUV or Van with the P entastar and just felt underpowered. Car could be a different story.

And ah ok if its got new tires on it, 100% worth it.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > Shift24 04/01/2019 at 16:05

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I know the Grand Caravan with the Penta feels fine at WOT, but the trans tuning/lack of low end torque make it feel sluggish under normal driving. I think the 8 speed in the Charger/Challenger helps alleviate that a lot. The Charger felt smooth and seemless in it’s power delivery.  

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 04/08/2019 at 08:53

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The fear makes me a better driver!