"shop-teacher" (shop-teacher)
02/20/2019 at 22:02 • Filed to: Rust
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"shop-teacher" (shop-teacher)
02/20/2019 at 22:02 • Filed to: Rust | 1
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It was bad enough about a mo nth or so ago, when I found a chunk of my trailer hitch in the driveway. Today I found a big piece of my rocker panel laying on top on my step tube when I got to school. Sorry, I should have put something in for scale, but it's about 3" long. I found another piece, about 1/2" square, laying on the step tube when I got back home. This is figuratively killing me!
CTSenVy
> shop-teacher
02/20/2019 at 22:13 |
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Well at least you are helping the environment by driving something biodegradable.
random001
> shop-teacher
02/20/2019 at 22:16 |
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Weight reduction!
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shop-teacher
> CTSenVy
02/20/2019 at 22:22 |
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I don't want it degrading though!!!
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shop-teacher
> random001
02/20/2019 at 22:23 |
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Its still fat and slow. I want muh metal back!
My X-type is too a real Jaguar
> shop-teacher
02/20/2019 at 22:23 |
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Could be worse, my father bought a new scout in 78, he had that issue in 80, 83, and 85. He sold it in 85 saying IH rebuilt it once, I rebuilt it once, now it someone else’s turn.
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shop-teacher
> My X-type is too a real Jaguar
02/20/2019 at 22:24 |
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Those came factory equipped with rust.
Urambo Tauro
> shop-teacher
02/20/2019 at 22:26 |
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That reminds me, I f ound a chunk of my truck’s fender loose, and had to remove it out before it fell out. It’s h eart-wrenching, finding stuff like that.
facw
> shop-teacher
02/20/2019 at 22:36 |
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If you send that to David Tracy, he’s probably be happy to have such a solid piece of metal to weld on to his postal Jeep.
WilliamsSW
> shop-teacher
02/20/2019 at 22:36 |
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Well as long as the frame is ok. Floors alright?
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facw
> shop-teacher
02/20/2019 at 22:39 |
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When Scouts were being built, many American automakers including International Harvester purchased steel from this one particular facility in Ohio.
The steel was sold in rolls. Car companies would order the raw steel in quantity, and then pick it up as-needed to bring to their own factories and stamp out body panels.
After the steel was rolled, stacked and made ready for pickup it was placed in storage. Under a shelter with a roof, but no walls.
Now apparently the steel producers charged storage fees based on how close to the edge the material was dumped. The closer it was kept to the center, the better protected it’d be from the elements and less likely it’d be to rust. So the “rent” was higher.
While Ford and Chrysler ponied up to put their raw steel away from the rain, International Harvester decided to save a few bucks by letting their stock sit on the outside. As a result the material would sometimes get rusty before it even became part of the truck .
“Of course [International] would clean the exterior side down so they could paint the panels,” Allen said. “But sometimes steel parts would ship with patina, and go onto the truck that way. That’s what I mean by saying some Scouts were ‘born rusty!’”
Actually this is good news if you’re doing a Scout restoration right now... don’t bother replacing all that rot because your truck might actually be factory-correct with metal cancer.
“Now you have to take stories like that with a grain of salt,” Allen added, which is why that yarn didn’t make it into the book. “But we heard it from enough people to make me think it probably did happen.”
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shop-teacher
> WilliamsSW
02/20/2019 at 22:50 |
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Yeah, the f rame and floors are fine. I was hoping to make it two more years before getting the rockers redone, but I may have to push that up a year.
Alfalfa
> shop-teacher
02/20/2019 at 22:50 |
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Just a run a roloc over it and weld it back in. It’s just a flesh wound.
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shop-teacher
> Alfalfa
02/20/2019 at 22:51 |
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Roloc?
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shop-teacher
> Urambo Tauro
02/20/2019 at 22:52 |
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Its brutal, and made all the worse by the fact that I bought it new.
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shop-teacher
> facw
02/20/2019 at 22:54 |
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My truck is rust free compared to his '92 Cherokee that he won't drive in the winter for fear of it getting rusty ... It's already missing more than half of it's rockers.
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Alfalfa
> shop-teacher
02/20/2019 at 23:00 |
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Shop colloquialism for these things
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WilliamsSW
> shop-teacher
02/20/2019 at 23:02 |
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Yeah, that might be necessary unfortunately. Salt is hell.
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shop-teacher
> Alfalfa
02/20/2019 at 23:20 |
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Gotcha. I was hoping to get two more years before I had to get the rockers redone, but it looks like I may need to push that up a year.
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shop-teacher
> WilliamsSW
02/20/2019 at 23:21 |
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Yeah it is.
glemon
> shop-teacher
02/21/2019 at 00:21 |
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When I bought my old Ranger this fall I was amazed how clean the bed was. Fast forward to a couple weeks ago and I am replacing the one of the brackets which hold the leaf springs on because it had disintegrated.
As I assessed the truck from underneath it be came clear the bed had been replaced, because everything else is corroded all to hell. Luckily the frame, though it looks like crap, is still solid, and the two rear spring shack les have already been replaced.
Rust happens
Rust never sleeps
If chunks are falling off I would plan on surgery sooner rather than later, is it will spread quickly.
gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee
> shop-teacher
02/21/2019 at 01:41 |
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Rocker panels rust from the inside... yes, mine are probably held together by the paint in some spots... What’s left at least. Most of the rust you’re looking at is in fact the inner rocker.
The hitch on the other hand is probably just surface rust lifting the paint off.
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shop-teacher
> glemon
02/21/2019 at 07:12 |
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Yeah, I was hoping to get through next winter before surgery, but it looks like I will have to get that done this summer instead.
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shop-teacher
> gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee
02/21/2019 at 07:15 |
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Yeah, I know they do, and that’s what terrifies me. Since I drive my kids around in this thing, letting it go isn't an option, I need to have surgery done.
Sovande
> shop-teacher
02/21/2019 at 09:04 |
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That’s better than the wagon I just bought, which, after about 45 seconds of actually looking underneath the car, doesn’t have a rear passenger floor pan. At all. Just carpet and then air. Looks like I will be pulling the interior after all...
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shop-teacher
> Sovande
02/21/2019 at 10:04 |
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Ugh.
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Sovande
> shop-teacher
02/21/2019 at 10:15 |
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Eh, it’s okay. The motor is worse than I thought, it needs a new/rebuilt carb, only one door opens, only two windows roll down and the carpet has some mildew.
It does have a newly rebuilt transmission which would be nice in my El Camino, so if nothing else I can do that swap and still come o ut fine. It’s not like I expected a lot from a $450 car.