Tesla Model 3 Ran When Parked

"glemon" (glemon) 12/30/2019 at 20:33 • Filed to: None

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So this our electronic/digital future.

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So my first reaction to this was “great, cars are now going to start to crash randomly like an outdated version of Windows”. But second thought is, is it better  that the car tells you it is sick before you go for a drive rather than puking it’s guts out in the middle of trip and leaving you stranded by the side of the road?

So, rise of the recalcitrant machines, or brighter digital future? For the record I am, or at least think of myself as electric car and Tesla neutral, not a fanboy or a hater, but I do watch the successes, and failures, with the interest.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > glemon 12/30/2019 at 21:05

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That is interesting. I would prefer it if my cars could let me know if they were about to kick the bucket, but I’d rather not have them kick the bucket at all.

I was (and still am) hoping that someone makes a bulletproof dive train and battery. Forget all the fancy infotainment systems and connected updates.  I'd rather have something built right the first time than fixed with an over the air update after I buy it.

Urambo Tauro > glemon 12/30/2019 at 21:14

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Tangentially related, something along these lines is going to have to be in place for driverless cars .

I f you think there are already too many people ignoring required maintenance on their cars, just imagine how even more out-of-touch they’re going to be about their car’s condition when they’re not even driving . No one will be able to say “hm , something does n’t feel quite right ”; they’ll instead be at the mercy of whatever sensors the car is equipped with.

Now s ome cars do have brake pad wear s ensors, but we’re probably gonna need even more advanced systems .. . Maybe have the computer comparing actual deceleration rates against brake line pressure readings or something to evaluate braking performance. Maybe some kind of t ire t read depth sensor system, too...

And if the car does detect a critical issue involving brakes, tires, or other important sensors ? Yeah, it probably should be temporarily bricked, or at least locked into a sort of limp mode at the first sign of trouble , lest a major failure play out on the road at speed . Not only should these vehicles perform frequent systems checks , o f course they should also notify t he users ASAP to make necessary arrangements.

slipperysallylikespenguins > Urambo Tauro 12/30/2019 at 21:25

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It’s been mentioned that autonomous cars will most likely be owned primarily by fleets. So it may be the corporations ignoring maintenance to get every dime out of the cars before they break. You can trust the corporate overlords to care about your safety right?

Urambo Tauro > slipperysallylikespenguins 12/30/2019 at 21:36

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This might be the thing that convinces more states/provinces to start requiring regular safety inspections. They could even incorporate an automatic bricking/limp-mode (not to happen while the vehicle is in motion of course) to take place when the certification expires...

glemon > BaconSandwich is tasty. 12/30/2019 at 21:54

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Yes, a simple battery electric should be able to be made dead solid reliable.  These days a simple ICE car could be dead solid reliable, that is why the Miata led quality and reliability ratings for many years.

glemon > slipperysallylikespenguins 12/30/2019 at 22:01

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Actually in this instance they will have to at least have procedures in place for maintenance, or else they will be sued into oblivion.

Thanks lawyers!

slipperysallylikespenguins > glemon 12/30/2019 at 22:34

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Somewhat, a significant amount of DOT vehicles on the road right now won’t pass a DOT inspection. Those are all companies that have procedures in place for maintenance and routinely ignore them.

As a driver you are told to drive the shitty truck or don’t get paid. When you drive you have to do a daily inspection and by signing off on it you are taking a considerable part of the liability. That doesn’t translate directly to autonomous cars but the same companies will be in charge of the mechanics. And lawsuits don’t help you when you are killed in a crash.

glemon > slipperysallylikespenguins 12/30/2019 at 23:17

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Oh yeah, I agree, that is why I said procedures, if they have their procedures in place but don’t follow them they can attempt to pass the buck.

Weird deal, not related to autonomous cars, but twisted view of corporate liability. Somehow some confidential or sensitive Walmart information was addressed to us. Total mistake we have no relationship. Somebody from Walmart corporate calls me, I am trying to help them track down the errant piece of mail. It slowly Dawn’s on me they don’t give a crap who has it or where it is, they keep asking me if we have a policy for dealing with stuff like this. After explaining that we do have a policy for our private information n ot somebody else’s, they just jumped on the part about us having a policy about private information, and could I send it to them.

TL/DR big organizations don't seem to care what you actually do or what happens, just the procedures and policies you have in place.

slipperysallylikespenguins > glemon 12/30/2019 at 23:24

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That’s the same with all the construction companies I’ve worked for. They don’t care what you do as long as they don’t ever have to hear about it. As long as the paperwork is signed by someone they are free and clear.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > glemon 12/31/2019 at 00:30

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Yeah...and things like this are why I am still not sold on Tesla...