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"DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!" (daft-ryosuke) 12/30/2019 at 09:31 • Filed to: None

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My LS was sold here used sometime about 27 years ago.

I thought it was time for her to come back.

Lexus has changed a lot in 30 years, but their commitment to quality and reliability has remained certain.

sony1492 > DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! 12/30/2019 at 09:51

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Still somehow looks at home

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! 12/30/2019 at 09:55

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does that mean your car braaps in brummie?

(there can only be one birmingham)

DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 12/30/2019 at 10:00

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Considering I live in the correct Birmingham you Brummies can brum off elsewhere

(Jk we love you)

(No were not giving you our subreddit handle)

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! 12/30/2019 at 10:06

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im pretty sure your in the knock off birmingham

im not sure correct would apply to the original tho....so ill give you that :p

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 12/30/2019 at 10:48

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Out of all the Birminghams I think we could take you in a fight 

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 12/30/2019 at 10:54

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a fair fight?

coz guns is cheating man :p

Textured Soy Protein > DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! 12/30/2019 at 10:57

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I have to say the new LS and and ES both look really good. Apparently the Lexus infotainment setup is hot garbage though. 

fintail > DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! 12/30/2019 at 11:51

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Oh that 90s styling, back when everything didn’t need an aggressive face and “dynamic” detailing.

Mid Engine > Textured Soy Protein 12/30/2019 at 12:06

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So is the front end, Lexus really fucked up the styling. Shame

Textured Soy Protein > Mid Engine 12/30/2019 at 12:13

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I think these are legit good looking cars, even the front ends.

fintail > Textured Soy Protein 12/30/2019 at 12:30

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ES might be the Lexus sedan I like most, it works overall, but that chrome trim C-pillar DLO fail makes me twitch. LS is too busy for me with the 6 window design and that front end , luxobarges aren’t exciting, who do they think they are fooling.  However, styling is subjective, no doubt it is an extremely fine car otherwise.

Textured Soy Protein > fintail 12/30/2019 at 13:41

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The DLO fail on the ES is so small and at least flows with the styling enough that it doesn’t bug me. Same can be said of the similar DLO fail on the G20  3-Series.

The 6 windows on the LS bugged me at first but I’ve gotten used to it. Having seen a few in person, the overall proportions just have a good presence.

PS9 > DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! 12/30/2019 at 14:14

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“commitment to quality and reliability”

I wish BMW, Merc and Audi shared this.

DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! > PS9 12/30/2019 at 14:18

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+1 you on Merc

fintail > Textured Soy Protein 12/30/2019 at 15:22

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Funny, it also bugs me on the G2 0. I have OCD tendencies about some things, and that’s one that gets to me. It just seems like such lazy design, this time when Lexus finally gets the styling close to “right” otherwise. I’d even choose that same color you posted.  As a MB fanboy, I am thankful the brand has done a good job at avoiding DLO fail and faux dynamic designs in general, although I am sure there’s one just around the corner, given the copycat ethos of so many modern styling departments.

For the LS, I should be happy it finally doesn’t mimic the S-class, and leave it at that. Creative interior, too.

Textured Soy Protein > fintail 12/30/2019 at 15:31

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Generally I’m willing to tolerate a little bit of DLO fail as long as it’s not trying to fundamentally alter the shape of the windows to some extreme amount. The G20 and ES fall within my range of tolerance. These DLO fails are no worse than 80s Corollas that similarly don’t bug me.

fintail > Textured Soy Protein 12/30/2019 at 15:37

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Funny, I can excuse those, as I see the 84-87 car as just being trim, and similar for the 88-92 car, especially due to the body color door window frames. On the ES especially, it seems they could have avoided the issue simply by changing a couple angles. It ’s almost like they intentionally wanted the DLO fail, the chrome even accenting it as if to make it more apparent . I wonder if a drone focus group thinks the feature looks exciting, and Toyolex ran with it.

2020 Corolla has DLO fail in both the A and C pillars, ugh:

And then there was this, which actually make me more amused than irritated, for being so brash:

I have to say it again, it seems like lazy design.

Textured Soy Protein > fintail 12/30/2019 at 16:01

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I hate that Camry example you posted because it was literally tacked on to the same car that didn’t have a DLO fail as part of a refresh.

But the ES and G20 DLO fails continue the line of how my brain perceives the overall look of the windows should be for those cars. These cars look better with their DLO fails than if the trim precisely followed the shape of the back door.

The current-gen Corolla however, is an example of needing too big of a DLO fail to fill in the perceived natural shape of how the windows should be.

fintail > Textured Soy Protein 12/30/2019 at 19:34

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That Camry refresh might be the laziest update of the century, and it seemed to scream that Toyota has problems with design. The weird current Camry (but I like the tall greenhouse) is a timeless classic compared to some prior models, and Lexus. Makes me cringe that teams of “designers” all likely with 6 figure salaries have nice careers making this stuff.

The G20 seems a lot more tolerable in that pic, but not really excusable - copying a bland 1980s Japanese design ethos isn’t something an “ultimate” car should be guilty of, yet here we are. It would be fine without the fail, and simply a thinner trim line. I know Lexus is addicted to that little upkick in the window line ( to add “character” no doubt), but that problem could be solved by simply omitting it. I can’t think of a single MB sedan with DLO fail like that, so it is possible.

I think the Corolla would be better if they just rounded off those ends.  I am surprised the nameplate font isn’t Comic Sans.