4700 lbs

"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch) 11/18/2019 at 11:42 • Filed to: Brick hause

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Forty Seven hundred Pounds....

The John JCW Countryman weighs 4696 lbs.

This 2020 4runner limited (4wd) weighs 4525

let that sink in.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 11:49

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WTF? How does that even happen?

MAXI

For Sweden > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 11:49

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mi ni thicc

Aremmes > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 11:50

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Boxer_4 > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 11:50

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Surely that must be a typo, right?  Please?

ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 11:51

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chonk

HammerheadFistpunch > Boxer_4 11/18/2019 at 11:51

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Checked it on their website.  Its legit.

Arrivederci > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 11:51

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Seriously, how does it weigh that much?

The T4R is 191" long x 76" wide x 72" tall

The “Mini” is 170" long x 72" wide x 61" tall.

The T4R is nearly two feet longer and weighs less. Unbelievable.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 11:52

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That’s insane.

That's the same weight as the Mustang Mach E.

HammerheadFistpunch > Arrivederci 11/18/2019 at 11:52

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It also has a frame and body, a transfer case, a solid rear axle and a 4.0 V6.  

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 11:53

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That’s Gross Weight . Curb is only 3629.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 11:54

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Is that gross weight, not curb weight?

https://www.autoblog.com/buy/2019-MINI-Countryman-John_Cooper_Works__4dr_All_wheel_Drive_ALL4_Sport_Utility/specs/

Apparently not:

duurtlang > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 11:54

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There is no way. The 2019 Countryman Cooper S All4 has a cu rb weight barely over 3500 lbs. At least on the EU market.

And I thought 3500 lbs was somewhat steep for a car like that already .

Boxer_4 > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 11:54

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This weighs ~3.4 Austin Minis!

Michael > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 11/18/2019 at 11:55

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Check the All4

https://www.miniusa.com/model/john-cooper-works/john-cooper-works-hardtop/specs.html

Weight (curb) Four thousand Six Hundred Ninety Six Pounds

HammerheadFistpunch > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 11/18/2019 at 11:55

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You’re right about one thing. It is a gross weight.

https://www.miniusa.com/model/john-cooper-works/john-cooper-works-hardtop/specs.html

412GTI > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 11:55

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Too many Fish & Chips, eh 

DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 11/18/2019 at 11:55

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It says curb on the website. 

Shift24 > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 11:55

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Holy cow...

I knew BMW SUV platforms were heavy at 5k or more but a CUV?

Also the same platform, the X2 or X1,   max weight is 3.7k. So where is the other half ton come from?

fintail > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 11:56

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Can’t be right, unless the entire undercarriage contains a thick lead plate or something.

My E wagon, a larger car filled with just as much or more frills, weighs ~4300.

Jewish Stig > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 11:56

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An Americanized mini... 

Spent too much time at McDonald's 

HammerheadFistpunch > duurtlang 11/18/2019 at 11:57

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Thats what they are reporting.  my guess is iron block and turbo gubbins.

Boxer_4 > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 11:58

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Also, I don’t need to let that sink in. The Countryman is heavy enough it will sink in in its own ..

M.T. Blake > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 11:59

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What. The. Fuck.

Thank you for the sobering moment of clarity this morning. 

Michael > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 12:00

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Will normal tires work for this thing, or are they going to need XL (reinforced) tires for this size?

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 12:02

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How on earth does that little thing weight more than a Hellcat???  Just nuts.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > Michael 11/18/2019 at 12:03

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Those numbers make no sense to me. I have seen a F chassis Cooper JCW on a scale at 3200 with driver and full tank of gas, that page claims empty curb at almost 3800. They would have to have filled the doors with lead for every trim to have gained this much weight since MY2019.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back 11/18/2019 at 12:05

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I’ve seen a stock 2019 F56 Cooper  JCW on a scale with driver and full tank of gas at 3200lbs. They must have filled the doors with lead to gain 600+ lbs in a single model year. Those numbers make no sense.

functionoverfashion > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 12:07

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Even the Clubman FWD is 4,300 lbs +

And a Cooper 2-door is 3,600 lbs.

My E46 325xi wagon weighed 3,600 lbs.

wut

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 12:08

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Holy cow the hardtop 4door I had in Mallorca was 3800lbs! That’s 400 more than my old Malibu!

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 12:08

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I’d say it needs to go on a diet.

user314 > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 12:09

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Did they add bulletproof glass and armor plating too?

user314 > Boxer_4 11/18/2019 at 12:09

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Metric or Imperial?

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 12:10

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Must be all the lead sheeting they added for sound-deadening.

My spouse fell in love with the first-gen Countryman and I’ve NEVER been in such a noisy, rattly car of such girth.

I guess Mini really stepped it up at the All You Can Eat Smorgasbord.  Still hard to believe it weighs 4600.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 11/18/2019 at 12:10

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2019 Countryman’s are rated at 3600 curb, 4300 gross. There’s no way the 2020 curbs higher than the 2019 gross, they are the same car.

user314 > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 12:12

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“In awe at the size of this lad. Absolute unit,”

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 11/18/2019 at 12:13

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I hope you’re right. The performance numbers don’t seem to make any sense if it’s really that heavy.

Textured Soy Protein > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 12:13

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It’s gotta be a goof on Mini’s website. The listed weight for X2 M35i and 2019 Countryman JCW are well under 4000 lbs. 

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 11/18/2019 at 12:14

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This makes much more sense. Thanks.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 12:15

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Yeah, it’s gotta be a mistake on the website...

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > duurtlang 11/18/2019 at 12:16

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US spec 2019s are 3600. This has to be a confusion between curb and gross by whoever maintains the spec page, every single Mini model apparently gained 800-1200 lbs for 2020 and none of them got more than minor updates since 2019.

Cé hé sin > duurtlang 11/18/2019 at 12:16

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I think the writer quoted the gross laden weight. The empty weight is something nearer 1,500 kg.

Edit: it’s about 1,600 kg. Still heavy for a car this size but 4wd doesn’t come free.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > user314 11/18/2019 at 12:17

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European or African?

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > duurtlang 11/18/2019 at 12:19

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The mini I had was 3800lbs

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > functionoverfashion 11/18/2019 at 12:22

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They put the gross numbers into the curb field. Every model has apparently gained 800-1100lbs since MY2019.

WilliamsSW > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 12:23

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It’s a newer BMW.  Pretty sure the block is made of some brittle plastic

Grindintosecond > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 12:23

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Mini fatty.

Maxima Speed > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 12:29

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You have to be wrong. Or your source is wrong. 

HammerheadFistpunch > Maxima Speed 11/18/2019 at 12:31

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source is MINI

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > duurtlang 11/18/2019 at 12:36

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Correction 2019 was 2750lbs

adamftw > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 12:48

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How in the fuck.

Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 12:50

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a 4runner TRD Pro has a curb weight of 4750lbs. JCW Countryman has a curb weight of 3,629. something is not right...

functionoverfashion > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 11/18/2019 at 12:53

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Yeah, 3,600lb seems like, not possible for a base model Cooper 2-door. 

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > adamftw 11/18/2019 at 12:59

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#wat.jpg

adamftw > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 11/18/2019 at 13:14

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DipodomysDeserti > WilliamsSW 11/18/2019 at 14:06

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Ah, hello fellow BMW owner!

Maxima Speed > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 14:31

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Yikes. How is that even possible?

HammerheadFistpunch > Maxima Speed 11/18/2019 at 14:44

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I’ve reached out to MINI to see if its wrong on their site.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 15:30

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Another BMW product that is inexplicably DENSE.

Somehow BMW builds cars that are about the same size as other cars, but several hundred pounds heavier than their competitors.

It is weird. Similar amenities, safety systems, capacities and dimensions... but just HEAVY.

WilliamsSW > DipodomysDeserti 11/18/2019 at 16:07

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Engineered for the life of the car ( lease)

haveacarortwoorthree2 > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 16:09

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It’s the special Mark Wahlberg edition.

DipodomysDeserti > WilliamsSW 11/18/2019 at 16:37

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The Ultimate Leasing Machine

cmill189 - sans Volvo > HammerheadFistpunch 11/18/2019 at 19:39

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While I believe there is some typo involved, “nicer” cars tend to weigh more despite physical dimensions. Laminated glass, sound deadening, better crash protection, more wiring, etc. Our 15 year old XC90 is right at 5000 on a scale.