Enthusiasts Hate It

"PS9" (PS9)
11/15/2019 at 10:50 • Filed to: None

Therefore, it will be extremely popular. Ford will sell a lot of these.

DISCUSSION (25)

jimz > PS9
11/15/2019 at 10:56

yep. they were never going to buy one anyway, so they don’t matter.

Enthusiasts don’t like facing the reality that they don’t really matter.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > PS9
11/15/2019 at 10:57

Actually looks decent from this angle (in this render).

I don’t understand the not-grille opening. Seems like they could’ve handled that better.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > PS9
11/15/2019 at 11:00

The fender/door shoulders & creases won’t actually be that pronounced.

And no black body cladding around the wheels, thankfully.

Arrivederci > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
11/15/2019 at 11:02

I think it’ll actually look incredibly okay in person.

For a Mustang fan, it could be a nice daily in their fleet - can’t say I’d mind having one of those parked next to a PP GT, GT350 or GT500 .

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Arrivederci
11/15/2019 at 11:04

We’ll see.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > PS9
11/15/2019 at 11:12

It’s possible that Ford did the math and saw that an “electric Macan” isn’t a terrible idea... The Macan sells like gangbusters for Porsche and, in GTS Form, goes like stink.

Ford may have figured this was a good place to launch their latest EV effort— in the space that the Macan occupies, so the “sporty-ish” pretensions of the Mustang fit the marketing objective.

Or, maybe they just shat upon a 55 year heritage, as Ford has been known to do.

For Sweden > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
11/15/2019 at 11:20

Or maybe they just hate boomers

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > For Sweden
11/15/2019 at 11:23

Could be both.

I still remember the time Ford decided to ditch the Taurus badge (and ‘retro’ back to “500" as a brand) when incoming CEO Mulally did a “WTF are you doing?” and had them immediately go back to Taurus.

Danimalk - Drives a Slow Car Fast > PS9
11/15/2019 at 11:29

Hard NAY on this one.

Ash78, voting early and often > For Sweden
11/15/2019 at 11:38

Small crossover are pure Boomer territory, at least in my neck of the woods. Especially the upscale ones. I almost can’t even envision this thing without gray hair behind the wheel.

Ash78, voting early and often > PS9
11/15/2019 at 11:40

I have no problem with the concept or even the name usage. I do have a problem with overcrowding the segment with another “large footprint, small interior” car.

It’s like they took the C-Max playbook and said “Let’s do the opposite!”

This is as close to a sedan as you can get for a company that doesn’t do sedans anymore.

Thisismydisplayname > PS9
11/15/2019 at 11:50

The only thing I find odd is the use of the mustang name, otherwise, yeah, it’s going to sell great, but why sully the mustang name? Mothball it if you must, but so be it.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > PS9
11/15/2019 at 11:55

Maybe. It still remains to be proven that Ford and their dealers are genuinely interested in selling BEVs.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Ash78, voting early and often
11/15/2019 at 11:59

COMPLETELY agree here.... in my area the beginning of the end was the RX Lexus. They like “the sporty pretension”, plus ride height and easy to get in and out of with failing hips and knees.

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > PS9
11/15/2019 at 11:59

I think it looks pretty damn good and appealing to a vast segment of the population. Sure, probably not what enthusiasts will ever praise...but did it ever have a chance of doing so, outside of having been an electric Miata?

Numbers and pricing look pretty good, while I hate the tablets inside it’s what the masses think “is cool”, and the exterior styling hits a pretty good middle ground. Other than bastardizing the Mustang name, the vehicle itself is pretty compelling.

Ash78, voting early and often > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
11/15/2019 at 12:13

I almost find it ironic in our current era of weird mass-media cultural/generational wars that Boomers and GenZ/Young Millenials are often attracted to the same cars.

Remember the Honda Element? “It’s hip! It’s funky! It’s not your mother’s car!”

Your mother: “Oh, that has great visibility and a low floor! Sign me up.”

fintail > PS9
11/15/2019 at 12:22

Waiting for the retro livery and wheel packages to woo the luckiest generation.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Ash78, voting early and often
11/15/2019 at 12:23

Yeah, I see that all the time.

Check out your “average” Crosstrek owner... from outdoorsy 20-something females to 80 year old retired couples seeking “something practical and reliable”.

I think there’s a “psychology” element that transcends age— and it’s probably key to the intangibles at the heart of marketing. Buick’s “age problem” is more about the cars than the age of the owners— ie the owner demographic is a symptom, not the cause.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > PS9
11/15/2019 at 12:40

I like it. Affordable e-tron. I drove the e-tron, and loved it. I love the styling of this. I hope Ford’s next move will be electrifying the entire Lincoln line-up with this same platform.

PS9 > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
11/15/2019 at 12:42

I’m sorry sir, but this opinion is illegal here. Please delete your account and report to the pain basement for a minimum of 10 hours of self flogging.

NojustNo > Ash78, voting early and often
11/15/2019 at 13:07

Scion was the same way . except for the TC most scions I see we re filled with older folks.

nermal > PS9
11/15/2019 at 16:51

I’m holding my order until they come out with a Boss 429 version. Not sure exactly what that will entail, but that’s fine.

OneSlowScion > NojustNo
11/15/2019 at 19:56

Actually a b out half of the tCs I see are driven by older folks which surprised me.

coqui70 > PS9
11/15/2019 at 22:29

Meh ... from the teaser picture I thought it would a 3-door and “off roady” but in a Safari 911 way. I’m sure it will sell but not excited anymore.

imadick > For Sweden
11/30/2019 at 15:12

who cares about boomers?