File to: Push button transmission elitist

"DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By" (ducst3-red-1liter-standing-by) 11/12/2019 at 13:17 • Filed to: None

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facw > DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By 11/12/2019 at 13:21

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I’m of the opinion that push buttons are way better than traditional auto shifters (not as good column shifters though), but damn that’s a lazy implementation.

This in the Fiat?

DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By > facw 11/12/2019 at 13:23

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Yup and yup. Not sure why they decided on push button for the electric version, but Italians are weird

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By 11/12/2019 at 13:26

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EDSEL MASTER RACE

DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 11/12/2019 at 13:39

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Everyone bow before its GREATNESS!!!!

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By 11/12/2019 at 13:44

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I don’t own an Edsel, but I have a ‘59 Lincoln that shares part of the same steering column, so if I had an Edsel donor I could convert it. As it is, just a big ludicrously oversized column for no reason. :D

lone_liberal > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 11/12/2019 at 13:50

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Chrysler might have an objection

mazda616 > DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By 11/12/2019 at 14:04

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So odd. Makes me love it even more. I’d 100% rock a 500e if I could make it work space-wise.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > lone_liberal 11/12/2019 at 14:05

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Came along on the Edsel two years after mopar, ‘tis true. Mopar just weren’t silly enough to make electromechanical steering wheel versions.

DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By > lone_liberal 11/12/2019 at 14:07

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dayum!

Snuze: Needs another Swede > DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By 11/12/2019 at 14:15

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I particularly like the GMC implementation - Push for P, N, L and pull toggles for R & D, which makes it difficult to accidentally select the wrong gear.  

DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By > Snuze: Needs another Swede 11/12/2019 at 14:21

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Thats neat, which car is that on?

DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By > mazda616 11/12/2019 at 14:22

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Its certainly small, but if you only use the front seats and fold the back down, there is a surprising amount of room the back. I don’t think I’ll ever really have the backs up

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > lone_liberal 11/12/2019 at 14:56

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How much 50s styling does your car have?

...well it has fins on the dash.

Wow

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > facw 11/12/2019 at 14:58

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I really like the one on Lincoln’s and some high end Fords (that sounds a bit redundant)

It’s right where it needs to be, and frees up all the space down on the console. It’d be even better if it was accompanied by a full bench seat.

MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) > DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By 11/12/2019 at 15:00

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Will a push button transmission still do neutral drops? 

DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By > MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) 11/12/2019 at 15:02

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Being electric, pretty much any time you hit the ‘gas’ pedal with any force, it’s basically a neutral drop. Gotta love that instant torque

Snuze: Needs another Swede > DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By 11/12/2019 at 15:15

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2018+ GMC Terrain. A lot of auto journalists complained about it, but I fail to see any problems. It takes up very little space and frees the whole center console up for other stuff (more storage, decent cup holders, wireless charg ing pad, e tc.). It’s also pretty intuitive and prevents issues like were seen with the FCA knob style selector. 

DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By > Snuze: Needs another Swede 11/12/2019 at 15:24

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Nifty, I dig it. This one on the fiat requires you to hold down the gear you want for a couple seconds before it will actually shift. I guess that’s their way of avoiding bumps

bhtooefr > DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By 11/12/2019 at 15:37

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I’m under the impression that Chrysler engineers built this from Bosch parts (some of which Bosch bought from GKN, IIRC), without much Fiat involvement (it's even built in a Mexican Chrysler plant, IIRC)?

Snuze: Needs another Swede > DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By 11/12/2019 at 15:59

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The Fiat one looks... less than ideal for a variety of reasons.  But I bet it was cheap to implement, and the “hold down for a few seconds” strikes me as someone at least considering the possibility of accidental bumps.  

DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By > bhtooefr 11/12/2019 at 16:05

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I wouldn’t be surprised. I haven’t looked to much into it, but I know for sure the motor is B osch

DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By > Snuze: Needs another Swede 11/12/2019 at 16:06

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At least the Italian engineers thought of some semblance of safety before trying to leave his shift early lol

Snuze: Needs another Swede > DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By 11/12/2019 at 16:37

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I wish I could give this more stars

Cé hé sin > DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By 11/12/2019 at 18:48

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Lots of pushbutton gears out there, but they tend to be on buses and the like:

Also, it’s not just the electrified 500 that has buttons. Here’s an Abarth with the Dualogic unit:

DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By > Cé hé sin 11/12/2019 at 20:23

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Huh, I've never seen that. All the autos I've seen had a traditional lever

Cé hé sin > DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By 11/13/2019 at 06:23

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That’s the Dualogic automated manual, sold everywhere except North America. Usually they have a lever, like this. I’ve driven one a few years ago. Despite the negativity you hear about automated manuals, it was fine.

DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By > Cé hé sin 11/13/2019 at 08:27

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Neat!

MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) > DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By 11/13/2019 at 12:44

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That sounds like a blast, are the electric nannies too obtrusive? Never hunting for a gear must be choice

DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By > MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) 11/13/2019 at 12:49

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Its a hoot. And you can turn off the traction control for all the chirping. Between the low center of gravity, short wheel base, and crap tons of instant torque, it is wayyyyy more fun than I thought it would be