"CB" (jrcb)
10/28/2019 at 20:04 • Filed to: I could do a lot of things if I was rich
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"CB" (jrcb)
10/28/2019 at 20:04 • Filed to: I could do a lot of things if I was rich | 4
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Things I do not have the money or time for: overlanding.
To be frank, though, every time I look at a 4Runner or Tacoma, I think of what could be. But the cost of the machine considering I don’t need one, the cost of accessories, locating spots to go, getting time off for it, I remember that it’s not something feasible.
f86sabre
> CB
10/28/2019 at 20:13 |
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Have you watched Long Way Round? It’s on Prime. Similar idea, but slightly different.
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CB
> f86sabre
10/28/2019 at 20:15 |
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I haven’t. That looks cool, though!
slipperysallylikespenguins
> CB
10/28/2019 at 20:17 |
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One of the things I’ve come to realize in the last year or two is that I can’t do everything. I’ve got 1000 interests but really have to focus my time and energy into a maximum of maybe 5. Overlanding is very high on that list but just outside the cutoff line for the reasons you mentioned above.
This was my ideal setup, except I want a stepside and a dirtbike on the back.
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f86sabre
> f86sabre
10/28/2019 at 20:19 |
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It’s pretty good. Ewan McGregor and one of his buddies. There is also Long Way Down where they ride from the north tip of the UK to the south tip of Africa. Basically entertaining stuff.
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CB
> slipperysallylikespenguins
10/28/2019 at 20:20 |
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You hit the nail on the head. I used to game all the time, now I keep procrastinating building a new desktop, and might just get a high powered laptop to kill two birds with one stone.
CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
> CB
10/28/2019 at 20:35 |
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It is something that I really want to do, but cost, living in suburbia and actual realistic life facts mean I cannot.
LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com
> CB
10/28/2019 at 20:58 |
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Preach.
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slipperysallylikespenguins
> CB
10/28/2019 at 20:58 |
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My younger self had no idea of the true value of time, so I say kill as many birds with as few stones as possible. One upside of this new mentality is that I enjoy lifes little things a lot more.
Its gotten to a point where I only turn on my ps4 once a month to update it and check what free games are up.
nermal
> CB
10/28/2019 at 21:24 |
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Overlanding is just car camping. You can get most of the crap you need to go car camping for a weekend for ~$100 from Walmart. Find a state park that’s not far away, and you can make a weekend trip for ~$150 all in that feels like you’re in another country.
That’s basically one night in a decent hotel room. Affordability isn’t the problem!
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CB
> nermal
10/28/2019 at 21:28 |
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My current vehicle makes it a small problem.
But an Outback...
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nermal
> CB
10/28/2019 at 21:33 |
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You don’t need 35" tires to drive down a gravel road in a state park past campsites that people take RVs down. You also don’t need that much storage space for a tent and some sleeping bags.
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CB
> nermal
10/28/2019 at 21:34 |
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Tiny tires aren’t good on the grids (I live in a rural area, close to a provincial park, but it’s a 45 minute detour if I avoid the grids with my car).
Derpwagon
> CB
10/28/2019 at 21:39 |
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I like the “filed to”. And that picture awakens a mighty want.
I’ve coincidentally been browsing autotrader and Craigslist for appropriate vehicles and think a mild overland build would be capable for a reasonable price if you went a bit bigger than most and got like a Tahoe or something. It’s body on frame, 4wd, there’s tons of aftermarket things out there, and unlike a fucking 4Runner they actually depreciate to reasonable prices. Sure you won’t get the agility or quite the range of options for where you can reasonably get to you would in a 4runner or the like, but a lift kit, some good tires and I bet I could get a Tahoe most of the places I felt like going.
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CB
> Derpwagon
10/28/2019 at 21:47 |
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As someone who has driven a Tahoe in plenty of inadequate situations, it’s not the worst choice, although pricey depending on the year and mileage . It’s pretty reliable, the 4x4 is pretty good, but I’d recommend better tires and removing the air dam (which will remove itself anyway).
Stef Schrader
> CB
10/28/2019 at 22:05 |
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I desperately want a Cayenne for towing, and to slowly mod for off-roadin’. At this point, I should put that in all of my cover letters for jobs. “Hello. My name is Stef Schrader, and I promise to blow a chunk of my salary on a gently used Cayenne to beat the poop out of.” Maybe that would work, because nothing else does. Nothing matters anyway, I guess.
tl;dr—I really want
a Cayenne, man
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CB
> Stef Schrader
10/28/2019 at 22:08 |
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“Hello, my name is Stef Schrader. I’m an automotive journalist. If you’d like to sponsor my Cayenne dreams that I could turn into offroading, towing, and whatever else content that will bring in a wide audience , you could hire me.”
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Stef Schrader
> CB
10/28/2019 at 22:18 |
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Where the HECKIN’ SHOOT is Muddy Cayennes Semi-Quarterly and why doesn’t it hire me yet?!??
Nothing
> CB
10/28/2019 at 23:31 |
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You know what the 4Runner is unhappy with? Mountain pass driving fully loaded with 4 people and hockey gear. Made me research superchargers when we got home. I didn’t buy it to be a highway cruiser, though. That’s what the wife’s Jeep is for.
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CB
> Nothing
10/28/2019 at 23:33 |
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*squints into the distance*
I think I’m good on the mountain issue.
JP_BaseCamper
> CB
10/29/2019 at 00:21 |
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Hello CB, maybe you could help me with some feedback on a new venture I started?
What if you could rent that 4Runner once or twice a year for really fun adventures, would that be appealing?
Sorry if this isn’t allowed. First time posting and I
have no idea about this site or community. It just popped up in my google feed presumably because of the word “overlanding.”
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CB
> JP_BaseCamper
10/29/2019 at 00:28 |
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Seems like an interesting idea, depending on where you’re based out of. Although you could possibly run into issues of people unfamiliar with trails getting stuck, insurance problems, cost of rigs, et cetera. I’d be interested in it, but unlikely to do it as a holiday.
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JP_BaseCamper
> CB
10/29/2019 at 00:40 |
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All very good points. Some I’m still navigating and others will rear their ugly heads soon enough. But yeah, I really think there are some folks like yourself who would enjoy a properly outfitted rig to take for a trip (be it 3-10 days). I’m based in Salt Lake City, Utah. It’s a great HQ for exploring Yellowstone to the Grand Canyon and all of Utah in between.
I’ve gone all in on two 4runners; Rovrr and Rovrr 1: The Grey.
What types of things (fixtures and gear) would you expect to have on an Overlander?
Future Heap Owner
> CB
10/29/2019 at 01:04 |
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Get bigger tires and put a skid plate under there. It’ll be fine!
adamftw
> CB
10/29/2019 at 07:00 |
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You don’t need a new overpriced Toyota do drive down a trail and camp. 90% of those guys are “All gear and no idear .”
Don’t let anyone gate keep you from having a good time.
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adamftw
> Derpwagon
10/29/2019 at 07:04 |
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May I present to you, exhibit A:
Ready for an adventure!
> CB
10/29/2019 at 08:28 |
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once you get an overlander vehicle, the mountains will call to you.....during the day, during the night, at work, at play, in your sleep, when you are woke, they will call....and the only way to stop the call is to go.....lol
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Derpwagon
> adamftw
10/29/2019 at 09:41 |
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You sir, are not helping. Well, you are, but you’re helping the wrong way. My bank account hates the idea, my heart loves it.
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Derpwagon
> CB
10/29/2019 at 09:42 |
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There’s an 04 for sale locally to me for like 5 grand. Less than 150k miles, no body rust that I can see in the pictures. Pretty common price around here it seems.You can find them for 4 or 3500 with 200k
Michael
> CB
10/29/2019 at 10:16 |
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How big are the grids? Carry small sheets of plywood and cover them to traverse
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Michael
> Nothing
10/29/2019 at 10:17 |
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Needs a highway cruiser
Buys a Jeep
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CB
> Michael
10/29/2019 at 10:20 |
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The grids are usually 10-25 kilometres between paved highway (at least). They're grid roads.
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Michael
> CB
10/29/2019 at 10:28 |
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Oh, ok, I was thinking cattle grids
gmctavish needs more space
> JP_BaseCamper
10/29/2019 at 10:37 |
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There’s a business local to me that rents Jeeps for overlanding/camping purposes, they’re called Hastings Overland. Been around for a year now I think They could be worth contacting to see what they’ve learned.
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CB
> Ready for an adventure!
10/29/2019 at 10:39 |
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It's a ten to twelve hour drive to the mountains. The temptation will rarely be there.
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Nothing
> Michael
10/29/2019 at 10:46 |
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We’ve had the Grand Cherokee a lot longer than the 4Runner. The 4Runner does well highway wise when it isn’t wheezing at 10,000 ft.
vicali
> CB
10/29/2019 at 11:26 |
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Hell I have a Tacoma and don’t get out as much as I want to ..
Also j
elly of guys like this @project_pos_taco who spend a few thousand and get a beater rig and then spend all their time
in the mountains..
Do what you can do, even if it means ripping up and down the range roads in your little rally car.. otherwise you wish all your time away..
HammerheadFistpunch
> CB
10/29/2019 at 11:26 |
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It doesn’t have to cost a fortune, but it can take time. You should definitely try it. Come on out to Utah this spring, we’ll do a tour.
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HammerheadFistpunch
> Nothing
10/29/2019 at 11:28 |
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People said with the 4th gen “the V8 is stupid, it has less power than the V6!” Which, to be fair, was true. But man what a difference WHERE that power was makes. The V6 is a good motor, but its hauling a lot of truck. That being said, anyone who wants to complain about lack of power or speed in their 4runner is welcome to try my Land Cruiser for a day.
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HammerheadFistpunch
> CB
10/29/2019 at 11:30 |
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That’ s a really good primer for motivation. Long way round and Long way down.
WiscoProud
> HammerheadFistpunch
10/29/2019 at 11:57 |
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The 4.7L isn’t a power house, but it has a great torque curve.
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HammerheadFistpunch
> WiscoProud
10/29/2019 at 11:57 |
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I tell you it feels like a falcon 9 after driving my cruiser around.
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WiscoProud
> Stef Schrader
10/29/2019 at 11:58 |
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the TFL Truck videos make me want a Touareg with the rear locker real bad.
Textured Soy Protein
> CB
10/29/2019 at 12:01 |
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I’m conflicted about overlanding because I can appreciate a nice overland build but I find calling it “overlanding” and being all instaglamourous about it is fucking douchey.
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WiscoProud
> HammerheadFistpunch
10/29/2019 at 12:16 |
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haha, i can imagine. I would really like to try a 200 series with the 5.7l. It has 60% more horsepower than i have.
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HammerheadFistpunch
> WiscoProud
10/29/2019 at 12:18 |
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it feels quick, but never fast. Like you would expect a rolls to feel. Just *woosh*
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Stef Schrader
> WiscoProud
10/29/2019 at 12:18 |
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HARD
SAME
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Nothing
> HammerheadFistpunch
10/29/2019 at 12:19 |
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Admittedly, we’re talking about climbing a 6-7% grade at 60mph. I’d say a different transmission would make a heck of a difference versus the 5 spd.
I would love the V8 in the 4Runner. It’s too bad it’s exclusive to the GX. I never drove a GX460 (or 470 for that matter) but probably should have.
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HammerheadFistpunch
> Nothing
10/29/2019 at 12:20 |
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Those grades are a familiar to me for sure, and even the GX works pretty hard with the camper in tow on them, but the cruiser is about as fast without a camper as the GX is with one.
Mercedes Streeter
> CB
10/29/2019 at 12:28 |
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Have you seen the things I offroad with?
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CB
> HammerheadFistpunch
10/29/2019 at 12:48 |
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I'm interested in taking you up on that!
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HammerheadFistpunch
> CB
10/29/2019 at 12:50 |
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We usually plan a trip in the spring and fall. I will loop you in.
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CB
> HammerheadFistpunch
10/29/2019 at 12:52 |
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Work and a UK trip mean there's a 95% chance I won't be able to go, but keep me posted.
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CB
> Mercedes Streeter
10/29/2019 at 12:53 |
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I probably shouldn't do that with the Fiesta.
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JP_BaseCamper
> gmctavish needs more space
10/29/2019 at 13:56 |
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Thank you for the info. I’ll look them up now.
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WiscoProud
> HammerheadFistpunch
10/29/2019 at 13:59 |
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Yeah, that sounds about right for Toyota. I’m good with that though. I think putting higher HP, but lower torque V6s, in midsize pickups is a mistake. For anything with off road or hauling pretenses, torque is needed.
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vicali
> Ready for an adventure!
10/29/2019 at 14:03 |
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have the shirt and coffee cup..
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vicali
> HammerheadFistpunch
10/29/2019 at 14:04 |
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I started out with the 22re so everything is a powerhouse..
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JP_BaseCamper
> Textured Soy Protein
10/29/2019 at 14:10 |
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It’s a buzzword label. But I do think it will be helpful to have a category that helps separate it from terms like Off-roading, 4 wheeling, car camping, etc. Here in Utah the moment off-roading or wheeling are mentioned it evokes Jeep rock crawler almost immediately. This just isn’t the right expectation. Car camping isn’t a good fit either as low clearance vehicles cannot go down some of these trails and fire roads to reach BLM land for dispersed camping (wild/primitive/no facilities or running water). It’s camping for some, it’s cruising and exploring for others. So I do think it needs a general name of sorts simply to convey the right expectation.
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JP_BaseCamper
> HammerheadFistpunch
10/29/2019 at 14:12 |
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What type of trips and where do you typically go?
I’m in SLC btw. Just curious to learn more.
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Textured Soy Protein
> JP_BaseCamper
10/29/2019 at 14:18 |
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The name itself doesn’t bug me so much as all the #forthegram pretty pics.
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JP_BaseCamper
> Textured Soy Protein
10/29/2019 at 14:31 |
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I hear ya. I myself am trying to find a balance of words to convey the proper message along with images of adventure.
Recently I had exchanged goods for photography work that will end up on Instagram but I was clear in trying to get my point across. I want the images to look “obtainable”. Meaning I want to share some of these real experiences with others who are interested but at the same time find a balance of (still figuring it out).
A few years ago I was told about a small town that has an awesome water hike and it was beautiful. I researched it and came across this blog article by a local who rubbed me wrong (initially) about how the traffic and parking were too much etc and how Instagram made it popular and took away from the locals. Then I went and experienced it myself and I can definitely see where they were coming from. Still don’t know what the answer to that is. Balance is tricky.
Matt Brown
> CB
10/29/2019 at 14:57 |
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Most of the expensive gear people throw onto overlanding vehicles is unnecessary jewelry. 4- low , rear and center locker, spring spacers, and off-road tires will get you 99% of the places the rest of that shit will get you.
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HammerheadFistpunch
> JP_BaseCamper
10/29/2019 at 14:59 |
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to be honest they are glorified weekend trips but we’ve seen some cool things.
Lockhart basin, kaiparowits plateau, cedar Mesa, kokopeli, etc. have you been to overland. kinja.com yet?
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Ready for an adventure!
> CB
10/30/2019 at 14:01 |
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12 hours? child’s play. your whole life is waiting out here....