"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
10/22/2019 at 21:19 • Filed to: None
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"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
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General Motors: Oh you need an engine? Pick any from a junkyard, from a vaguely similar car or truck within 10 years of yours. Everything should fit perfectly
Chrysler: Oh you need an engine? Well, every single one is year and model and trim specific. Fuck you, that’s why.
Ford: Oh you need an engine? Just buy a parts vehicle it’s probably like $175. Fords hold value worse than Bitcoin
Toyota: Confirm your diagnosis you probably don’t need an engine
Mitsubishi: Oh you need an engine? Okay, here’s a used one, but it’s going to burn oil too
Volkswagen: How does this engine cost more than the car what the f***
Honda: Confirm your diagnosis you probably don’t need an engine. If you do, just grab some quarters and head over to a junkyard.
Subaru: I’m sorry sir, every single Subaru owner just came and bought all of our used motors. The memes are true.
Nissan: -implying that a Nissan transmission would last long enough to kill an engine
Jaguar: Well now you know why you got a LuxUrY CaR sO cHeAp
CB
> bob and john
10/22/2019 at 21:26 |
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You copied and pasted this from Facebook.
Still laughed.
Snuze: Needs another Swede
> bob and john
10/22/2019 at 21:28 |
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All true!
Though with Ford, your parts vehicle better have been manufactured in the same plant and within about a model year of your car. I give respect to people who love Fords because my experiences have been that they are so freaking complicated, I can't stand it. What do you mean Romeo 4.6 mod motor parts dont work on a Windsor 4.6? I thought it was called modular for a reason?!?
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bob and john
> CB
10/22/2019 at 21:31 |
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yea. and? :D
Michael
> Snuze: Needs another Swede
10/22/2019 at 21:37 |
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The tooling to make the engine was modular
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Snuze: Needs another Swede
> Michael
10/22/2019 at 21:43 |
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I know... but also, why would you make 2 "identical" engines that are incompatible with one another?!?
For Sweden
> bob and john
10/22/2019 at 21:45 |
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I am seen
wafflesnfalafel
> bob and john
10/22/2019 at 22:02 |
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50 years from now there still will be a market for Chev 350s, Ford 302s and Subie EJs...
lone_liberal
> Snuze: Needs another Swede
10/23/2019 at 00:24 |
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Unless google is lying to me that’s 280 cubic inches and Windsors were 221, 260, 289, 302 and 351. I think there was also a weirdo version made for a very short time in like 1980 that was a 255. But to your point, the fact there was little commonality between their two different 351 engines says a lot.
Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen
> bob and john
10/23/2019 at 01:08 |
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The internet: Oh, you need an engine? Buy an SBC . Doesn’t matter what car it is.
CRider
> bob and john
10/23/2019 at 01:45 |
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Harley-Davidson: No, that’s actually how it’s supposed to run
Ducati: Yes, a new engine might be cheaper than doing the 10k maintencance but that’s before labor
Triumph: ThReE CyLindErS BeCauSE WhY nOt, ruNs pRetTy sMooTh tO me
Honda: It’s still running? How the hell is it still running?
KTM: OK the parts will be here in Unspecified Timeframe
Yamaha: Are you sure this is worth fixing?
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bob and john
> CRider
10/23/2019 at 02:22 |
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MV augsta: wai t , you found a running one?
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CRider
> bob and john
10/23/2019 at 02:43 |
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Kawasaki: If we gave it more power, would you care?
pip bip - choose Corrour
> bob and john
10/23/2019 at 03:47 |
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Mitsubishi one is true
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Snuze: Needs another Swede
> lone_liberal
10/23/2019 at 05:43 |
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The 351 was an older OHV design, and those were made in Windsor, Ontario or C leveland, Ohio. They have the s ame issue, very little commonality.
The 4.6L is 281 cubic inches, OHC, and manufactered in Windsor or Romeo, Michigan. Its part of the “Modular” family that includes the 4.6, 5.0, 5.3, 5.4, two different 5.8s, the 6.8L V10, and is the basis for the 5.0L Coyote and 5.2L Voodoo. Modular refers to the tooling and not the engines themselves, which becomes apparent when you start comparing blocks between plants, or even year to year as they made so many changes. The following highlights just a few key ones: https://lmr.com/products/mustang-46-romeo-vs-windsor-differences
Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
> bob and john
10/23/2019 at 06:21 |
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Chrysler: Oh you need an engine? Well, every single one is year and model and trim specific. Fuck you, that’s why.
But we made it insanely easy for you, they all share the same trans and mount locations, so simply swap the harnesses and you’ll be up and running.
Toyota: Confirm your diagnosis you probably don’t need an engine
But we’re only saying that because most people buy it. Turns out this motor is junk (at 15k miles), we’ll see you again in 15-30k so we can replace this one as well. While we’re at it, we may as well fix that junk transmission a few times as well.
Mitsubishi: Oh you need an engine? Okay, here’s a used one, but it’s going to burn oil too
If it burns oil, fix the damn thing, it’s a simple valve seal job and you’re good.
Honda: Confirm your diagnosis you probably don’t need an engine. If you do, just grab some quarters and head over to a junkyard.
We can get you a new engine, chances are it’ll burn more oil than the one we’re taking out though.
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bob and john
> CRider
10/23/2019 at 09:51 |
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Suzuki : for the last time, no, we dont have a spare stator.
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bob and john
> Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
10/23/2019 at 09:53 |
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I still dont get how you had so many issues with toyota. did you sleep the p r esidents daughter or something? because you are literally the ONLY person who i’ve ever heard had issues with them.
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Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
> bob and john
10/23/2019 at 10:08 |
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Toyotas and Hondas have never been good to our family. All of them had major engine/trans issues under warranty along with electrical gremlins. That little 2012 Corolla S we had was bought new and dealer maintained by the book, when we ditched it at 85k it was on it’s 2nd replacement engine, 3rd replacement trans (manual no less), all of which failed due to bad manufacturing. The rest of the car made my little 1995 Acclaim feel/ride like a luxury car. That car swore me off Toyota for life, never have I owned such an utter little shitbox.
Meanwhile we take Mopar and GM vehicles 2-3-400k without major issue. A lot of those ar e lucky if they get the oil changed regularly.
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lone_liberal
> Snuze: Needs another Swede
10/23/2019 at 10:40 |
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Windsor, when talking Ford is almost always referring to the old OHV small blocks built there to differentiate them from the Cleveland. I’ve never heard the mod engines referred to as Windsors before.
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Snuze: Needs another Swede
> lone_liberal
10/23/2019 at 11:14 |
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I don’t profess to be a Ford guy, but I’ve also never heard anyone refer to a “4.6 Windsor” or a “4.6 Romeo” in conversation either. But I do know they are essentially different engines based on where they were manufactured , just like the old 351s.
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lone_liberal
> Snuze: Needs another Swede
10/23/2019 at 11:32 |
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You’re absolutely right. I replied before my brain woke up this morning. I’m just more familiar with the headaches of the old Ford stuff since my first car was a Gran Torino that was given to me because it didn’t run so I became very aware of all of the Ford weirdness of that era. My experience with the mod motor was the one in my Mustang that I bought new and sold after having it 6 years so I never really had to deal with that B.S.
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bob and john
> Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
10/23/2019 at 12:08 |
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yea, you pissed off someone somewhere.
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Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
> bob and john
10/23/2019 at 12:27 |
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Honestly I think a big portion of Toyota/Honda “reliability” is due to the general type of people who own them.
Generally ( at least around here ), Toyondas are owned by older people and dealer maintained, so it makes sense they should last.
Meanwhile ( again, around here ) GM/Ford/Mopar are bought by lower income people who are lucky to change the oil every 10-15k miles. Makes sense they’d “seem” less reliable.
This is a big reason I don’t take stake in “reliability surveys”, without maintenance history/repair history, they mean nothing to me.
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CRider
> bob and john
10/23/2019 at 13:42 |
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Zero: Insert credits or wait 12 hours to ride again
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bob and john
> CRider
10/23/2019 at 14:33 |
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Polaris: those where a great 2 years right?
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CRider
> bob and john
10/24/2019 at 01:59 |
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Royal Enfield : They all do that, just ignore it