UPDATE: Mexican Senate chooses to keep the ban on imports.

"Spanfeller is a twat" (theaspiringengineer) 10/26/2019 at 13:33 • Filed to: I WISH I HAD COME UP WITH THIS AS SATIRE ABOUT IMMIGRATION

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Update:
After passing the chamber of deputies, many thought that the 2020 income law would include the regularization of illegally imported vehicles, as it would represent an additional income of 2.5 billion dollars next year....but it didn’t pass.

The congress also removed a proposed tax on water for agricultural purposes, that would only affect large corporations.... but they didn’t.

Our economy might be stagnant, investment might be drying up, but one thing is for sure:

Rather than letting returning citizens in with their cars from abroad, we will make them sell them for Nissan Versas because we’re too chicken shit to face the automotive lobby.

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Proposed by the Mexican Congress as part of the 2020 budget, removing the import restrictions and registering the illegal vehicles inside the country could increase tax revenue by 2.5 billion dollars next year... to put it into perspective Mexico’s tax income last year amounted to around 176 billion dollars.

If all 18 million cars are registered, Mexico’s total number of cars stands rise by two thirds.

wary of a recession and possible income troubles next year, the government has considered creating, raising, and enforcing more taxes, such as the proposed tax on tipping, the federal road tax, and the tax on digital commerce.

The current restrictions, soften around five years ago, state the cars can only be imported if they’re brand new, or at least six years old from the United States and Europe and up to 25 years for vehicles manufactured elsewhere.

This is a huge development, and industry lobbyists claim that removing import restrictions could make new car sales plummet 43% in three years.

Imported cars have been a contentious issue in Mexico for years. As Mexicans return from the United States to retire, they bring their american cars across the border, which is illegal. They can’t get !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! and it is a huge issue among many communities.

You could imagine this will make many people happy, specially those that used to live in the US. But think again if you think the government is doing anyone !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!!

dogisbadob > Spanfeller is a twat 10/22/2019 at 20:17

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Isn’t the Mexican car market just a bunch of Tsurus, Amaroks, and cars stolen from the US? :p

I don’t believe in import restrictions, especially like the stupid 25-year shit we have up here, and the childish “safety” laws made to be different, not better.

Spanfeller is a twat > dogisbadob 10/22/2019 at 20:20

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Legalizing them here might increase car theft near US border towns... 

nermal > Spanfeller is a twat 10/22/2019 at 20:31

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If only there were.... some type of physical barrier.... that Mexico could pay for.... to keep US cars from crossing the border..... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......

In the US at least, the auto industry is one of the biggest single sources for tax revenue for most states. Hence the reason that there are such dumb laws on the books. 

My X-type is too a real Jaguar > Spanfeller is a twat 10/22/2019 at 20:32

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I’m curious under Current Rules is the Toyota Camry Considered an American car? or do you mena directly imported from Europe or the US meaning a Honda sold in the us can be imported to Mexico?

Spanfeller is a twat > nermal 10/22/2019 at 20:38

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Most of the cars that the automotive industry fears cross the border legally.

The problem isn’t that they’re here, it’s how long they’re here.

I’m not actually that worried about the automotive industry; if someone  goes through the hassle of importing it’s not someone who would easily turn into a customer. 

Spanfeller is a twat > My X-type is too a real Jaguar 10/22/2019 at 20:39

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I’m unsure, I’m pretty certain it’s the latter.


I think it has to meet some NAFTA standards.... they included European and American cars because we mostly already import those for sale directly. No idea why Asian cars weren’t included but I can imagine it has a bit to do with RHD.

Mexico doesn’t have any formal automotive standards except for emissions. So really, you could import anything brand new from the US or Europe...

nermal > Spanfeller is a twat 10/22/2019 at 21:21

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Supply & Demand rules apply.

I wonder about VIN swapping as well. In theory, a nefarious individual could steal a car in the USA, drive it across the border, and swap in a VIN from a totaled local car to pass off as legitimate. 

Spanfeller is a twat > nermal 10/22/2019 at 21:38

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The problem with importing cars is that cars in Mexico don’t have “titles”

The ownership is certified through the bill of sale.

So there’s actually whole process to homogenate imported cars and it requires a notarized bill of sale from a dealer or person in the United States

coqui70 > Spanfeller is a twat 10/22/2019 at 22:23

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So how does this work with cars assembled in Mexico, then sold in the US? Can those come back with no restrictions?

Spanfeller is a twat > coqui70 10/22/2019 at 23:41

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I don’t know the specifics; but I imagine it was a regulation to protect car dealers and not Mexian industry itself...

fintail > Spanfeller is a twat 10/26/2019 at 14:34

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Too chickenshit to face a lobby, welcome to 21st century “capitalism”.

Spanfeller is a twat > fintail 10/26/2019 at 14:49

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The worst thing is that lobbyists aren’t -legally- particularly powerful here in Mexico... but I wouldn’t be surprised if suddenly a bunch of senators got a massive discount on an Audi or even a Porsche .

fintail > Spanfeller is a twat 10/26/2019 at 16:38

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As you know, MBUSA effectively purchased the Murkan 25 year rule, I’d wager there’s something under the table there too.  Corporate oligocracy, here you come.

Spanfeller is a twat > fintail 10/26/2019 at 16:58

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I don’t believe that car sales would go down 45%, they’re not legalizing import cars without import duties. The legislation would mostly affect old people who busted their ass in the US for twenty or thirty years and they’re returning to their hometown to basically die. If their 1995  jeep cherokee  is a threat to the stability of the Mexican car market.... then I think the industry has more to worry about than some old folk looking for a fucking license plate.  

fintail > Spanfeller is a twat 10/26/2019 at 17:29

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That’s the best part: corporate sponsors don’t really have to prove their claims, they get to make claims and rest on them without recourse. Just as a proportional  handful of grey market cars entering the US market 40 years ago didn’t have a real impact - but it did have some impact on the margins of a few firms, so those firms bought a law to protect profits.  That’s kind of the modern way, public sacrifice for private profit.

Spanfeller is a twat > fintail 10/26/2019 at 17:35

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Maybe the US should value removing the 25 year import ban based on what the Mexican congress found: 2.5 billion dollars from 18 million cars. That’s an average tax of 140 dollars per car. It’s nothing; the American government could tax imported cars much higher and make a killing... just from enthusiasts. I can imagine a Seat Leon that normally retails for 15k here being imported to the US for 17k or even 20k, just because the enthusiast wants a car not typically available in the US market.

That doesn’t even include how much money they’d save on not having to enforce the ban. 

Make some sort of homologation with the European safety standards... the emissions can be done state by state... Honestly I don’t even think car companies would lose that much money due to the enthusiasts buying cars from abroad....

fintail > Spanfeller is a twat 10/27/2019 at 00:04

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One would think the Trumpublicans, who claim to be against excess regulation, would want to rescind the dipshitty 25 year rule. So far, not a word on that, maybe as there’s no racial or us vs them angle for the regime to take with it. As you say, grey market cars could be taxed, and the handful of enthusiasts who want to import an oddball car would have little impact on the mass market, as most consumers want to buy from a main dealer and have no risk.

There was a time when US emission standards greatly exceeded ROW, nowadays with the EU anyway, I don’t know if there’s much difference, and I suspect the same for safety.