"66P1800inpieces" (66p1800inpieces)
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"66P1800inpieces" (66p1800inpieces)
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It’s time to replace the front brakes on my 2008 TSX. At 140k I am also taking preventative measures by replacing the brake hoses and rebuilding the calipers. One of the caliper pistons was a little rusty so I figured it would be easier to order a rebuilt set. The general advice is to replace both at the same time so I ordered a left and right Ultra Premium Caliper from Cardone. Since they are ordered individually (from the same site) not as a pair, the ones they sent are clearly two different castings.
The one with the part number clearly stamped on the main body of the caliper matches what is in the car and looks fine. The other is the left side caliper (left side of pic) which looks like an older casting, close, but not the same, and kind of defeats the purpose of replacing them as a pair to keep things even. I am sure they are almost the same, but why order ultra premium calipers when what they send is the run of the mill rebuilds (with different sliding pins, again probably interchangeable)?
I think the bigger issue is that the one with the wonky older style casting was never fully finished. I think the core calipers come in and are bead or sand blasted. On one caliper, the last finishing step of machining the banjo bolt sealing surface was not done so it is raw cast iron after sand blasting.
The other side they sent was correctly finished
Waiting to hear back from the website and manufacturer to see if they can swap out the wonky caliper for one that matches. I should mention that these seem to be one of the better rebuilt calipers for this application and they are super cheap ($36 a side, I have to cover mailing back the core) compared to the odd brand rebuilts from local parts stores.
I am putting on a replacement set of EBC BSD Rotors as they seem to have better metallurgy and held up for quite a long time versus the stock ones which repeatedly warped. I rebuilt this side already but will replace it with the Cardone one since they have a decent grey paint finish (although not an issue to me, one of them it is flaking off here and there). I always use a hand wire brush to clean hub surface (under the rotor) and apply a light surface coating of anti-seize to the hub and the outer rotor hat to prevent corrosion which could cause causing axial skewing.
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jimz
> 66P1800inpieces
10/15/2019 at 13:21 |
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might have been an aftermarket caliper.
Discerning
> 66P1800inpieces
10/15/2019 at 13:21 |
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Reorder and return. No point in taking a risk unless you are in a time crunch.
dogisbadob
> 66P1800inpieces
10/15/2019 at 13:22 |
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A better choice would’ve been Raybestos Element3 all-NEW calipers. All new caliper , no core charge.
Aremmes
> 66P1800inpieces
10/15/2019 at 13:24 |
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That coarse
banjo
mating surface is gonna leak brake fluid. The casting also looks like it's made from a lower-grade metal. Give it a hard pass.
HammerheadFistpunch
> 66P1800inpieces
10/15/2019 at 13:25 |
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I wouldn’t accept that caliper. Especially from Cardone which seems to be hit or miss. Make them send you a hit.
CalzoneGolem
> 66P1800inpieces
10/15/2019 at 13:25 |
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I don’t think I would use that left caliper.
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66P1800inpieces
> dogisbadob
10/15/2019 at 13:26 |
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Excuse me while I go check those out . These calipers are shared with a bunch of Honda and Acura models and seem to have wide availability.
Svend
> 66P1800inpieces
10/15/2019 at 13:28 |
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Would I use that freshly rebuilt caliper?
Nope.
it’s unlikely to fit my Skoda.
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66P1800inpieces
> Svend
10/15/2019 at 13:34 |
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I like where you are going. I nstead of getting a rebuilt caliper, swap the car out for a Skoda.
Snuze: Needs another Swede
> 66P1800inpieces
10/15/2019 at 13:55 |
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I’m confused, which is the shitty one? Which one had the messed up surface, the unmakred one of the Nissin one?
Honda uses Nissin calipers on their motorcycles and those things have saved my ass on multiple occasions, so from that experience I wouldn’t have a problem with Nissin. But if that’s the trashy looking one, send it back!
Schaef_Camaero Z/28
> 66P1800inpieces
10/15/2019 at 14:05 |
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No . I had a similar situation when replacing the front hubs on my Camaro. One was noticeably ‘lesser quality’ looking than the other & you could feel a slight tick when you spun it . The clerk at Autozone gave me some trouble, but I did eventually get a different one that was more to my liking.
Future next gen S2000 owner
> 66P1800inpieces
10/15/2019 at 14:44 |
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I would hope it is two different casting, two different sides. Would be difficult to use a right on the left side.
;)
nermal
> dogisbadob
10/15/2019 at 14:45 |
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This is exactly what I did over the summer on my truck - All 4 replaced for < $300. Stops way better now, and fuel economy is improved because all of the original ones were dragging.
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66P1800inpieces
> Snuze: Needs another Swede
10/15/2019 at 15:08 |
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Trashy looking one on the left side of the top pic. Yeah, I am going to push for a return.
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66P1800inpieces
> Future next gen S2000 owner
10/15/2019 at 15:10 |
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It’s actually the same casting for left and right. You can kind of see it in the middle picture but there are two spots where the bleeder can be drilled and tapped. L and R.
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Future next gen S2000 owner
> 66P1800inpieces
10/15/2019 at 15:46 |
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Well that’s just logical and ruins my damn joke.
MM54
> 66P1800inpieces
10/15/2019 at 19:19 |
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It is my anecdotal
opinion/experience
that you are better off getting broken parts from a junkyard than from Cardone, because then you don’t pay a premium for the broken parts.
Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
> HammerheadFistpunch
10/16/2019 at 06:53 |
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Which knowing Cardone, will end up being a miss in the end....
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Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
> MM54
10/16/2019 at 06:54 |
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I 2nd your anecdotal evidence.
I’ve had lightyears better luck with the cheap parts off Rockauto than anything by Cardone.
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Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
> 66P1800inpieces
10/16/2019 at 06:58 |
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Send them both back, go to Rockauto, order the Raybestos Element3's ( which are cheaper than Cardone Remans ), have better calipers and more money in your pocket.
Or better idea yet: https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4491120&cc=1440498&jsn=3216 Just get the Powerstop Calipers for a few dollars more and have a far superior caliper.
davidc
> Svend
10/16/2019 at 16:27 |
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Or my Yugo
Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen
> Svend
10/16/2019 at 16:55 |
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Well that’s just defeatist. It’s only a couple of days si nc e someone on here was explai n ing that anything fits with the aid of a Sawzall.