The PG&E-ocolypse is upon us.

"sony1492" (sony1492) 10/09/2019 at 16:11 • Filed to: None

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Essentially no functioning traffic signals for the county so a good stretch of hwy 101 is clogged up 4 way intersections every block. The grocery stores w ith backup power that could open are selling out of candles and water with heavy losses on anything refrigerated or frozen.

The range is electric so I get the pleasure of cereal for dinner until the power come back on.

The county apparently bickered with pg&e until 7pm (5hrs before shutdown ) before officially notifying the public of the power outages for a minimum of 36hrs. No Gasoline , some people with no water, no heat blah blah blah.

vondon302 > sony1492 10/09/2019 at 16:14

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But its California the weather is so nice.

Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo > sony1492 10/09/2019 at 16:14

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That seriously sucks. Better than being on fire... I guess?

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > sony1492 10/09/2019 at 16:15

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Its cover for a massive federal invasion of California.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > sony1492 10/09/2019 at 16:17

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They are so risk averse now they can’t even take a piss without getting the lawyers involved.  

sony1492 > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 10/09/2019 at 16:20

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It’s a study conducted by the government on the effects of a solar storm

sony1492 > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 10/09/2019 at 16:21

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5th largest economy in the world yet our infrastructure is this bad, many sections are being cut off of power out of technicality. In order to take select sections out they must turn off the whole grid

For Sweden > sony1492 10/09/2019 at 16:22

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Wait, no water or power for 36 hours?!

sony1492 > vondon302 10/09/2019 at 16:23

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Mild wind with mid  50's

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > sony1492 10/09/2019 at 16:24

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So businesses didn’t even get advanced warning of this? That’s asinine to have to waste all that food, not to mention the cost. Even if insurance covers that, someone is ultimately paying the price. What a clusterfuck.

What about emergency services and hospitals? Did they shut  off power to everyone?

sony1492 > Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo 10/09/2019 at 16:24

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Were always on fire anyways, or being a collection point for someone elses fire

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > sony1492 10/09/2019 at 16:26

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It may prove to be a good thing folks generally aren’t heavily armed in that state.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > sony1492 10/09/2019 at 16:26

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Yet another reason I like gas ranges.

In all seriousness, that sucks. 36 hours is not enough when people are going to be panicking

sony1492 > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 10/09/2019 at 16:29

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The company proving a point, be careful what you wish for.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > For Sweden 10/09/2019 at 16:31

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They are shutting of the electrical grid because of high winds/dry conditions and the risk of another fire like Santa Rosa (2017) or Paradise (2018) both fires started by arching power lines.

For Sweden > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 10/09/2019 at 16:32

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RIP Tesla Superchargers

sony1492 > For Sweden 10/09/2019 at 16:32

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If you rely on a well, or any electric water pump your screwed, the grids water is still available but we are told to not use it unless we have to because they are using backup systems.

This is a rural county so it's not a small concern

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! 10/09/2019 at 16:32

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Hospitals all have multiple redundant generators, a power loss is only an inconvenience to them.

sony1492 > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! 10/09/2019 at 16:36

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I work at a grocery store, I ordered water a 7am like any other day and only found out about this around 7pm.

This morning at 3am, all the water was sold out, we were running on our backup generator with only half the lights working(no bathroom, breakroom lights). Our canned goods were blown out too. My order sent yesterday for today was forecast for normal sales so  immediately got wiped o ut of water jugs

We spent the first 3 hours shuffling everything refrigerated into walk in coolers with our dry ice. 9am as temps crept up e verything refrigerated or frozen was 50% off. Tomorrow what didnt sell is being thrown out

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 10/09/2019 at 16:42

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I realize that most hospitals probably have redundant system. I guess it was more of a question of how long can they run on generator power? I guess if they're gas line fed generators indefinitely. 

sony1492 > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! 10/09/2019 at 16:42

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The local power plant is channeling its power to hospitals and the jail. The county was bickering about said plants power allocation.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > sony1492 10/09/2019 at 16:44

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Hard to argue with the power allocation. Do you want to explain to the public about the prison break because they turned the power off?

sony1492 > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 10/09/2019 at 16:44

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This is f reedom, almost oregon, Northern Ca. We have atvs, lifted fords, tanerite , and guns

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > sony1492 10/09/2019 at 16:45

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What is the store you work at going to do about the loss? Since it's a man-made power outage, would insurance still cover the spoilage?

sony1492 > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! 10/09/2019 at 16:45

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It makes since but 24hr notice wouldve been significantly more reasonable then 5

sony1492 > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! 10/09/2019 at 16:48

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No idea, last time they covered a refrigerator system failure so its stands to reason they will cover this

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > sony1492 10/09/2019 at 16:50

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Well, yes, no argument there.

Not much planning anyone can do with 5 hours notice. Particularly if you were at work. 

63Bug > sony1492 10/09/2019 at 16:57

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My thought as well. They got sued into bankruptcy for causing a fire so now they are going to “fix” that problem and everyone is going to feel the ramification of that . They will next come around asking for rate increases from consumers so they can fund the necessary fixes to the grid to prevent future shutdowns.

Hard to argue with them (from a safety perspective) but if they were really concerned about the potential for fires and the impac t on the grid they could have communicated this well in advance and given everyone time to react. .

RPM esq. > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 10/09/2019 at 17:02

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Propane grill is always a solid backup if you have an electric range and live somewhere relatively temperate. Also, most gas ranges now use electric igniters instead of standing pilots and you’re not supposed to light them with a match, although you obviously could if needed . But s ome are sufficiently drive-by-wire that they won’t work at all without electricity to operate the controls.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > sony1492 10/09/2019 at 17:29

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What was that about electric cars being so great, there California?

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > vondon302 10/09/2019 at 19:12

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Norcal does not equal Socal weather lol. This was my thought, that as long as its not the middle of summer I could care less about power being out. But I am in LA so we dont have weather. 

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > sony1492 10/09/2019 at 19:16

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You know if enough people do stupid things like run generators indoors and light candles and fall asleep, this is likely to cause MORE fires and deaths than a faulty power grid. Especially the lack of notice, this will just ensure chaos occurs. The predicted humidity and winds were available knowledge at least days in advance. And realistically this happens EVERY year around now so its something that could have been planned for from the top down. I think its perfectly reasonable to shut off the grid in that scenario but you gotta make thorough blackout plans, not just say GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY!!!

I would imagine places with hurricanes have considered shutting down the grid in advance of the storm and they have all sorts of emergency plans for people. There is no reason that fire weather couldnt be handled exactly the same. 

vondon302 > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 10/09/2019 at 20:16

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Til

vondon302 > sony1492 10/09/2019 at 20:16

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Til

OmerCarrothers333 > sony1492 10/09/2019 at 20:32

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are you in Eureka/Crescent City area, or Lake County?

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > vondon302 10/09/2019 at 20:47

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Its all relative though. They still dont have the humidity of the South/midatlantic/midwest and there certainly arent any damn polar vortex’s in the winter. Depending on how in the mountains they are, snow is not a thing either and rain is only a little more common than down here. But temperatures will also vary wildly depending on elevation and  distance from the coast.

sony1492 > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 10/09/2019 at 20:52

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It snowed at see level last year right on the coast, temps within 15 miles of the coast range from 20-105 depending on the season 

sony1492 > OmerCarrothers333 10/09/2019 at 20:53

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Eureka

His Stigness > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 10/09/2019 at 21:49

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Something something PUBLIC utilities.

I think if PG&E, and to a lesser extent SCE, continues with this shit, we may actually see action by the electorate.

Oh wait, that's right, the ballot initiative process isn't actually controlled by the people, but large corporations. Silly me. 

OmerCarrothers333 > sony1492 10/09/2019 at 22:33

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My wife’s folks used to live in Crescent City. I always liked Eureka; I thought the downtown area was beautiful and Lost Coast Brewery is one of my all-time favorites.

Hope everything works out ok for you dude.

vondon302 > sony1492 10/10/2019 at 06:00

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And I was bitching about about 32 degree drop on temps last week.