"ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability" (italianjobr53)
01/30/2019 at 21:55 • Filed to: mouselopnik
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"ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability" (italianjobr53)
01/30/2019 at 21:55 • Filed to: mouselopnik | 1
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Update 2: I’ve been observing a teammate use a trackball thingy. So I decided to buy one and see if I can work with it. Its a Logitech M570 which I got from best buy for $30ish. I like it! My brain is able to comprehend how to use the trackball without utterly messing up everything. Its so comfy to use :)
Update: I got a vertical Anker (ty Tchalla!) which I used for about a week. While it IS nice, I couldn’t move it uuum fast enough (just me being inept I guess). I said fuck it and spent $55 for the Razer. So I have two of these now:
Oppo suggest me a comfortable mouse to use at my work desk. I spend most days in front of a screen.
I used my Razer Deathadder (pictured above) for a while but the keys are too hard for work and I don’t want to spend 50 bucks to get another one.
The new mouse should cost less than $25 and be a full size one (like the adder). I would prefer to have side buttons but its not really necessary.
Yellowbird for your time.
kgman
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/10/2018 at 10:02 |
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I was going to suggest the Logitech G602 because it’s pretty great but it doesn’t fit the budget. I also have a generic gaming mouse from Amazon that works pretty well for $15
KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/10/2018 at 10:03 |
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I highly recommend a vertical mouse. Easier on your wrist especially if you’re on your computer all day. I switched a year back and I will never go back to a regular mouse
TysMagic
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/10/2018 at 10:04 |
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I split my time between a Logitech M510 (typically when sitting) and a Anker 98ANWV M-BA (typically when standing). Only downfall to the Anker is that it is wired.
random001
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
10/10/2018 at 10:05 |
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I have this. It’s nice, but I moved to a trackball because our work surfaces are kinda weird. I like it.
punkgoose17
> TysMagic
10/10/2018 at 10:08 |
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I wonder how the vertical
mouse would feel for gaming?
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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> random001
10/10/2018 at 10:09 |
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I tried a trackball, didn’t like it returned it and got this instead. You don’t realize how much your wrist and forearm is twisted until you start using a vertical mouse.
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TysMagic
> punkgoose17
10/10/2018 at 10:11 |
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this cheap one, probs not good. It’s a little less responsive, but helps with preventing issues. I’d say a better one that’s at less of a vertical angle (plus additional buttons) would be really nice.
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random001
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
10/10/2018 at 10:14 |
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I only find that the trackball is nicer because it has this padded extension on the back, and I have massive hands. Mice are very hard for me, as well. Even the vertical one needs to be just a bit larger.
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ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
10/10/2018 at 10:16 |
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Interesting! I think I’ll buy the Anker, I’ve never thought about a vertical mouse.
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ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
> random001
10/10/2018 at 10:17 |
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I considered a trackball as well but IDK if I will be able to do CAD on it so I’ll stick with the optical sensor.
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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/10/2018 at 10:17 |
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You can always try one for a few weeks and return it if it doesn’t work out. I did the same, ordered a bunch of different types including a trackball to see which works out.
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> TysMagic
10/10/2018 at 10:18 |
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The M510 is a bit too small for me, I get cramps if the mouse is small.
The Anker on the other hand mmmmmmmm....
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random001
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/10/2018 at 10:23 |
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I’d suggest the vertical mouse, then. You will probably smack it a lot at first moving from the keyboard to the mouse, but it’ll be ok.
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ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
10/10/2018 at 10:26 |
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Makes sense, I just ordered the Anker. I hope using a vertical mouse dosent mess up my gaming skills on the Razer :D
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TysMagic
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/10/2018 at 10:26 |
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I didn’t use the m510 for a while, but I’ve found switching between the vertical and standard mouse seems to leave my mouse hand pain/numbness free so no complaints - yet.
functionoverfashion
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/10/2018 at 10:33 |
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I use a Logitech M705, it’s big enough and does have some extra buttons if you want.
My favorite part is the center scroll wheel, though: it can either have “notches” like most similar ones do, where each click of the wheel moves x number of lines on the screen, or it can freewheel, much like flicking up on a touchpad. For scrolling up and down large pages, etc. it’s priceless. You can switch the scroll mode with a button on top. I use it for hours at a time, not every day, but I still like it better than any other mouse I’ve had.
It also comes up a lot if you read “Top 5 / Top 10 Mice” articles. It’s not expensive, and just works well.
TheCollective
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/10/2018 at 10:38 |
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The One and Only you’ll ever need.
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ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
> TheCollective
10/10/2018 at 10:39 |
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Can’t visit the site, firewalled.
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> functionoverfashion
10/10/2018 at 10:43 |
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That is nice! I’ll think about it. Just bought the Anker vertical mouse, maybe I’ll buy this too and return one of them.
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> functionoverfashion
10/10/2018 at 10:52 |
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Looks like they updated the M705 and made it worse. Amazon reviews say that the new one is shit :(
TheRealBicycleBuck
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/10/2018 at 10:53 |
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Don’t forget, you get what you pay for. My daily-use mouse is a L ogitech Performance MX , but my previous mouse was a Logitech M-705 . The 705 doesn’t have as many buttons and isn’t a darkfield mouse (works on glass!), but it served me well for several years. I finally wore out the left mouse button.
The Performance MX gets you more buttons, a faster response, a better laser, and rechargeability. Both of these fit my hand well where some of the other Logitech mice are too small for comfort.
I suggest a trip to your favorite computer store to put your hand on a bunch of mice to see which is most comfortable. After all, you’ll be caressing it for hours every day.
deekster_caddy
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/10/2018 at 10:55 |
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I recently splurged for myself on a Logitech MX Master 2. It doesn’t meet your budget, but I got it on sale for $70 a few months ago. Haven’t seen a price like that since. It’s a joy to use. It’s bluetooth and recharge able, and can remember three different bluetooth connections for bonus points (use at work and at home)
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deekster_caddy
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/10/2018 at 10:57 |
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microsoft.com is firewalled? Ouch. direct link? https://www.microsoft.com/accessories/en-us/products/mice/microsoft-classic-intellimouse
vicali
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/10/2018 at 11:01 |
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My Logitech M570 keeps me sane throughout the day. .
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ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
> deekster_caddy
10/10/2018 at 11:02 |
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I think bit.ly is firewalled. I was thinking about this as well as the Logitech G203.
I learned to play CS 1.6 on a basic Microsoft mouse, so I like them dearly.
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> TheRealBicycleBuck
10/10/2018 at 11:04 |
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True. But like I said I dont need side buttons or bluetooth/wireless, so I was hoping to find something good on the cheap.
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ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
> deekster_caddy
10/10/2018 at 11:05 |
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Ooh at home, for gaming I have the deathadder and I’m very happy with it. I’ll try the Anker vertical mouse thingy for now. Or go to the microsoft intellimouse or Logitech G203.
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> vicali
10/10/2018 at 11:07 |
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IDK if I can CAD using a trackball. I think I’ll stick with optical for now.
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functionoverfashion
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/10/2018 at 11:09 |
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Ugh, that’s interesting, and annoying. I guess I have an “older” one, like the one on the left:
You can see the little line on the pad on the bottom, where your thumb might rest, indicating (I guess) that that is a button. I hardly use mine, but some people love it.
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vicali
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/10/2018 at 11:10 |
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I GIS all day long with it.. but you know, if CAD can’t handle it..
IJustWantMyZBack
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/10/2018 at 11:15 |
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If you just want a basic mouse try this. Price is right and comfort is top notch. I use it at work and home.
jebusmoses
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/10/2018 at 11:16 |
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For what it’s worth, I switched over to the M570 about 4 years ago and I’m never turning back! I like it better with CAD - I like that I can click without accidentally nudging the pointer. But I’ll be the first to admit I’m a clumsy dude.
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ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
> functionoverfashion
10/10/2018 at 11:17 |
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Exactly, that button seems to be the visual differentiator along with the symbol on the button near the wheel.
I can’t find any site specifying which one they are selling, so I’ll take a pass on this one.
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> vicali
10/10/2018 at 11:18 |
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Ooh I know people can CAD with it, its just my stupid brain dosent adjust to the trackball well.
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ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
> IJustWantMyZBack
10/10/2018 at 11:19 |
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I just ordered this, TChalla suggested the same one.
CobraJoe
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/10/2018 at 11:24 |
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5 years ago I
got a R.A.T. 7
for the same reason, I use it every day for work, so I figured an adjustable one would be a huge help.
Problem is, it was $100 brand new, and old stock now is $150, while the new models either don’t match the same features or are just not available. I know this because my middle click is giving up, and I’m looking for a cheaper replacement.
I ended up ordering the
Roccat Kova
(Haven’t got it yet) and taking a chance on a non-adjustable mouse. The
G.SKILL RIPJAWS
and the
AJAZZ GTX
were also high on my list of options thanks to the adjustable palm rest. Granted, those are all a bit more expensive than your $25 limit, but they’re in the ballpark.
I suppose I can always try to repair my R.A.T. 7 if I don’t like the Roccat... but it’s starting to show it’s wear in other areas too.
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vicali
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/10/2018 at 11:31 |
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L ol, I started with a trackman way back 15 years ago, that one you ran with your fingers and had thumb buttons. When it died I replaced it with the 570 which is a thumb ball with finger buttons..
If I’ve got day
s of digitizing I’ll sometimes switch back and forth between
my co
urtesy mouse-
Logitech MX
,
but it’s mostly there so the IT guys don’t break my stuff.
farscythe - makin da cawfee!
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/10/2018 at 11:48 |
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i really like my rat
but the company that makes em went out of business... and finding the software and drivers now is a real pita.... so it sucks mines starting to die of old age now
i’ll need to get something else and i dont want to
*pouts*
(saw you already ordered one so figured i dont really need to reccomend now)
winterlegacy, here 'till the end
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/10/2018 at 12:04 |
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The Logitech M510 has been my daily driver for the longest time. Comfortable, and you can reconfigure the forwards/back buttons using a Logitech program, so you can make yourself a key combination macro or two.
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/10/2018 at 12:06 |
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“But like I said I dont need side buttons or bluetooth/wireless...”
You didn’t say that. Here’s what you wrote:
“The new mouse should cost less than $25 and be a full size one (like the adder). I would prefer to have side buttons but its not really necessary.”
The M-705 has only a couple of extra thumb buttons, is super-comfortable, and is just $3 more than your max budget. Once you go wireless, you’ll never go back. Really, it makes that much of a difference.
A mouse is
something you will be handling every day for
hours
on end. It pays to get the best thing you can afford. You’ve already spent more on tires and a sway bar for a car you drive only
a couple of hours a day, right? You
have probably spent more than $30 on a single meal.
Again, you get what you pay for. I’ll admit that I’m a bit of a Logitech fan, but that’s for a good reason. I use a computer for at least 8 hours a day, every day, usually more. The Logitech mice last longer, track better, and are more comfortable in my hand than any other brand I’ve tried. You can get a corded mouse for $10, but using a cheapie is like buying a cheap set of Nankang for your mini. You might as well go down to Autozone and grab a nice steering wheel cover while you’re at it.
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ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
> TheRealBicycleBuck
10/10/2018 at 12:15 |
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I get you and would have considered it,
but this:
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/10/2018 at 12:19 |
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I wasn’t aware of the issues with the updated M-705. I’ve been using the Performance MX for years.
Keep in mind that it’s fanboys providing the reviews.
Personally, I would spend a lot more on a new mouse given how much I use them. I get at least three years out of a mouse, so that works out to be $20/year for the MX.
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ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
> TheRealBicycleBuck
10/10/2018 at 12:21 |
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Good advise, I’ll play around with the Anker vertical for now, decide later if I wanna change.
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ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
10/22/2018 at 15:44 |
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Thanks for the tip! The Anker vertical thnigy is pretty nice :)
I’ve been using it for a couple of days now.
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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/22/2018 at 15:45 |
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Nice! I now officially have better luck recommending a mouse compared to recommending cars to people this year LOL. 100% success ratio.
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ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
10/22/2018 at 15:46 |
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Hahaha
Captain of the Enterprise
> deekster_caddy
10/29/2018 at 18:19 |
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I love my MX master 2s! I wish I had one at work but I share my desk and so I just use what’s available
Nibby
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/29/2018 at 18:23 |
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ah man, nice with the adder... would’ve suggested steelseries rival 110 cause it’s cheaper and very comfy
If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/29/2018 at 18:27 |
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I used to use Logitech mice back when I had a desktop and always found them very comfortable and nicely weighted.
This M500 is available on Amazon for $24.99.
Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/29/2018 at 19:08 |
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I finally fixed the problems I was having with my Razer Naga. It started with a can of dust remover spray and ended with a hammer smashing that frustrating PoS to bits. I grew tired of the software, the totally incompetent tech support, etc., and finally made sure I would never attempt to use it again. I found a Logitech G600 on CL for $15 and it takes care of every complaint I had about the Razer. This is all for the secondary computer, at least for now. On the primary system, attached to the KVM switch(es), is the same old Kensington Expert Mouse trackball I’ve been using for nearly 20 years now, complete with a genuine 8 ball from a billiards supply store replacing the stock ball. Sure, there isn’t any official software support from Kensington for systems made in the last century, but it works well and feels nice. I keep a few old ones for parts as I haven’t found anything suitable to replace this thing.
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ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
> Nibby
10/29/2018 at 19:37 |
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YOU SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME EARLIER. TRAITOR!!
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ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
> Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
10/29/2018 at 19:42 |
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Wtf on the Razer! Mine has been working perfectly for the last 1.5 yrs and 800 csgo hrs.
I can CAD with a trackball, so I had to get an optical mouse. Its for me work.
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ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
> If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
10/29/2018 at 19:43 |
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That looks nice. I was just bored with researching tbh, got what I knew works well for me.
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Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/29/2018 at 20:06 |
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It was essentially junk when I bought it (used) for next to nothing, so it’s no big loss; I just wanted to make sure that I never thought again that maybe, with a little more effort, I could turn this into something that actually works - destroying it with a hammer ensures that this never happens and gets out a little frustration at the same time . It started to develop the infamous multi-click problem, and despite getting it working properly for a week or two at a time, I found that design and engineering of this product to be substandard, with more flash than substance . T ech support was useless and incompetent, not aware of how their own products worked and what parts came with it as standard to customize the fit, for example . The rubber coating was peeling off (just like on the keyboard) and the stupid braided sleeve on the cord was disintegrating and bunching up in places. The absolute worst part was the software that had to be run to set it up and make the buttons operational; the Logi keeps the programming internal on the mouse itself and doesn’t require an internet connection to make a damn mouse work for more than the incredibly basic functions. They took a simple function and made it needlessly complex, and makes me question what else the software is doing behind the scenes. It’s a mouse fer chrissakes, and shouldn’t be raising these kinds of questions.
Razer stuff looks pretty and pushes the right buttons (no pun intended) with fancy specs and appearance, but it’s not going to last, and heaven help you if you ever need technical support on something more advanced than what your eight year old nephew could figure out. The construction and design didn’t correlate to the premium price, especially the big chunk of metal screwed to the top to give it additional heft and therefore the feel of being a higher -quality product. There are better choices out there from a longevity and ergonomic standpoint (after all, I am still using an IBM model M and a 1999-vintage Kensington trackball) , and I personally will not pay retail for something that looks pretty but isn’t going to last very long.
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ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
> Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
10/29/2018 at 20:10 |
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Time will tell I guess, the other adder is working fine like I said.
At least I know if it starts failing, a hammer works well to rectify the situation :)
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Nibby
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
10/29/2018 at 23:09 |
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sorry didn’t see it
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> Nibby
10/29/2018 at 23:19 |
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Jk jk
You would have probably told me to get this: https://www.etsy.com/listing/509979371/original-dick-ring-penis-band-cock-sock?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=mouse%20dildo&ref=sr_gallery-1-1
Slightly NSFW btw
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deekster_caddy
> Captain of the Enterprise
10/30/2018 at 09:21 |
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I love the way it feels but I do have trouble finding good uses for the thumb buttons and thumb scroll. Got any suggestions?
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Captain of the Enterprise
> deekster_caddy
10/30/2018 at 18:43 |
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I use mine on a Mac and the thumb button lets me swap between desktop windows. So I use it constantly. It could be programmed to do the same on windows. As for the thumb scroll I basically never use it but occasionally it comes in handy for horizontal scrolling in excel or sheets.
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
01/30/2019 at 22:15 |
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One of us.
NKato
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
01/30/2019 at 22:17 |
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For the trackball, should go with MX Ergo. Bigger, adjustable, and comes with a cable for charging the wireless battery.
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ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
> TheRealBicycleBuck
01/30/2019 at 22:17 |
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:)
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ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
> NKato
01/30/2019 at 22:22 |
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Its also $80. I didn’t want to spend that much monies before I knew I would be comfortable with a trackball.
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NKato
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
01/30/2019 at 22:35 |
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fair point. I've been using trackball mice for years now.
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ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
> NKato
01/30/2019 at 22:38 |
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I had used them before but never on CAD. They really are pretty nice.
Boxer_4
> TheRealBicycleBuck
01/30/2019 at 22:42 |
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Urambo Tauro
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
01/30/2019 at 22:51 |
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Ooh neato. I switched to a trackball a couple of years ago on account of what I believed to be the beginnings of carpal tunnel. Never got around to getting myself checked out, but it went away within a day or two after getting the trackball and hasn’t come back.
wafflesnfalafel
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
01/30/2019 at 22:51 |
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M y favorite is still the little Logitec travel mice - work great, small, packable, don’t break.
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> Boxer_4
01/30/2019 at 22:55 |
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:)
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> Urambo Tauro
01/30/2019 at 22:57 |
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Thats what I feared would happen to me. Too much driving, gaming with a normal mouse and gaming with a controller.
Hope the trackball thingy helps...
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> wafflesnfalafel
01/30/2019 at 22:58 |
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Small mouse (mice?) make my hand ache...and I usually use a mouse at work 7 8 hrs daily and for gaming after that.
This trackball is my work mouse that I happened to have brought home today.
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wafflesnfalafel
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
01/30/2019 at 23:01 |
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yeah... I’ve got trumpster hands...
BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast.
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
01/31/2019 at 01:10 |
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I just picked up this one. ELECOM M-HT1DBRK (wireless, although there is a wired version)
almost all of the packaging is in japanese, and the HUGE name is apt... it is very large.
The palm rest is cushioned, but the big thing is, the scroll wheel is at your thumb, and the track ball is at your index and middle finger, for more intuitive pointing.
I have only briefly tried a thumb-operated trackball, but it seems like it would be hard to get the fine dexterity or speed with a thumb-operated trackball, compared to a mouse, or an index finger trackball.
I am starting to feel some issues in my forearm from years of IT work at a computer with mice and trackpads. I am hoping a more ergonomically stable trackball will help keep issues minimized.
I just received it, so haven’t had a lot of time to test it and evaluate it yet.
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> BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast.
01/31/2019 at 08:08 |
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That does seem pretty nice!
I can somehow operate the trackball using my thumb with just as much accuracy as a normal mouse.