The Hyundai Veloster N runs on sweet blessed REGULAR UNLEADED FUEL

"Textured Soy Protein" (texturedsoyprotein) 09/14/2018 at 11:36 • Filed to: None

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Here’s a nice piece of news !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! : the EPA just !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! , and it runs on regular unleaded fuel. This is fairly unheard of for modern turbocharged engines in performance trims of mainstream brand cars, and any luxury brands. Yay!

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Textured Soy Protein 09/14/2018 at 11:50

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This means with a tune and some Premium you can get more powaaaa too.

3point8isgreat > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 09/14/2018 at 11:54

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Since it has a performance package with +25 HP, I wonder if that’s not what they already do.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > 3point8isgreat 09/14/2018 at 11:56

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Very true! Lots of room for expansion I guess.

TysMagic > Textured Soy Protein 09/14/2018 at 11:58

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what is this regular you speak of? 

3point8isgreat > Textured Soy Protein 09/14/2018 at 11:59

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Dang, I was hoping for 30+ on the highway.  We have fuel injectors that can do 5+ injection pulses per intake stroke.  We have electronically controlled wastegates.  Why then, can we not just push an “eco” button (which it already has) that delays boost so you don’t hit it cruising on the highway, and still be able to control fueling for both the sipping and the deluge for POWERRR ends of the spectrum?  I get why economy goes to crap under boost, but there’s no need let it build boost while cruising.

UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy > Textured Soy Protein 09/14/2018 at 12:01

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Even if you can, I wouldnt be surprised if 93 is recommended. It lists regular for the FoST too, which is also possible, but you lose power (timing is pulled)  and MPG suffers

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Textured Soy Protein 09/14/2018 at 12:03

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So, this has been getting a lot of good reviews and I have seen a lot of people excited for it, but do you think it’ll sell? Any Oppos’ considering this? I know a common complaint was they should have also/instead brought the I30/Elantra GT version of the N which is more practical.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Textured Soy Protein 09/14/2018 at 12:08

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The GTI runs 87. It’s printed more than once in the fuel door. 

Textured Soy Protein > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 09/14/2018 at 12:11

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I’m actually sorta kinda considering it for myself. But I’d rather have it in 5-door Elantra GT (i3o) form, with a DCT for putzing in traffic as I often do . The Veloster shape compromises  visibility and practicality, and so far I’ve yet to see a Veloster N with a sunroof like the regular Veloster.

Textured Soy Protein > 3point8isgreat 09/14/2018 at 12:15

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It’s probably because 6th gear isn’t a super tall cruising ratio.

Textured Soy Protein > UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy 09/14/2018 at 12:17

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That’s certainly possible, but Hyundai has a good track record of its turbo motors really only needing regular. This one is admittedly in a higher state of tune, but so far the only Hyundai turbo motored cars that require premium on the EPA ratings are Gene sis & Stinger.

UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy > Textured Soy Protein 09/14/2018 at 12:42

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Either way, I know there are people who run 87 in the ST anyway. In some situations it can cause knock potential to increase, especially in the ST where low speed pre ignition happens. I fill up probably 5 times a month, and the extra $30/month  isn’t a huge deal to Me but it might be to others ($.60 per gallon at around 10ish gallons each time). Obviously, mileage per month of someone and differences in cost may be greater in their respective situation which could also sway their preference so I understand the appeal.

The Dummy Gummy > UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy 09/14/2018 at 13:05

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The 5.0 coyote was like that too with 87 .. fuck that though.. give me the good stuff.

11civicsi-old > UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy 09/14/2018 at 13:20

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Was thinking the same thing, it is the same case for my Fiesta ST. That first tank of 87 from the dealer was the worst.

Captain of the Enterprise > Textured Soy Protein 09/14/2018 at 13:39

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That would be good for me, pemium is $ 0.60-1.00 higher per gallon were I live. I want a GTI but the premium would hurt

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy 09/14/2018 at 14:30

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The Veloster N uses the Theta 2.0T GDI, which has been producing ~275 HP in the Sonata since 2013. It makes 275 on 87 octane. They could probably make a tune that uses 93, but they won’t because Hyundai.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > 3point8isgreat 09/14/2018 at 14:34

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It comes down to gearing and the fact that it was made for fun, spirited driving, not highway cruising. Also, FWIW, my former Elantra was rated to 34 on the highway with an auto and I regularly scored 38-40 with conservative driving.

Chariotoflove > Textured Soy Protein 09/14/2018 at 14:40

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E ven for  NA engines everyone wants you to use premium.  I love that my Kia advertises the engine in my car likes regular just fine.  Of course, premium might give me a bit of a hp boost, but for normal driving I’m good, and it’s nice to save a few at the pump.

3point8isgreat > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 14:42

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I forget about the gearing. But that also seems silly when you can put a lower top gear in and keep all the fun gears as they are. Pretty sure Corvettes and such have done this for a while, where top speed is actually in 5th because 6th is so tall for efficiency.

This is mostly just an issue for me since I do about 500-600 miles a week, but want something that can put a grin on my face any time the road starts to twist.

Textured Soy Protein > Chariotoflove 09/14/2018 at 15:42

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I’ve found that most non-luxury brands’ NA motors are still on regular, with some exceptions of course. But just as one example, Honda V6s would always be tuned for regular while very similar motors in Acuras were/are premium required. 

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > 3point8isgreat 09/14/2018 at 15:42

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Think of it this way: the 6 speed probably has a similar range of gear ratios as a comparable 5 speed in a lower trim. But, because there are more gears, there is less distance between ratios of adjacent gears. It’s a close-ratio transmission- the benefit is you get to shift more, which is ideal for people who like to shift, ie, people who will be buying the Veloster N.

Textured Soy Protein > Captain of the Enterprise 09/14/2018 at 15:53

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At least as far as the EPA is concerned the GTI needs regular.

Both the GTI and the Civic Si are pretty damn good from a fuel economy perspective. The Si needs premium but its numbers are so high I’m inclined to give it a pass.

The Veloster Turbo has largely similar numbers to the GTI. The same motor is in other cars like the Kia Soul ! and Elantra Sport but for some reason the numbers on the stick shift Elantra Sport (and (Elantra GT Sport) are rather lower.

I’m not sure why the stick shift Elantra (GT) Sport is so much lower than the stick shift Veloster Turbo, but the DCT versions’ numbers are all similar.

Chariotoflove > Textured Soy Protein 09/14/2018 at 16:02

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I feel like most of the cars I see recommend premium, turbo or not, but as I write this, I can’t back that up with numbers or specific examples, so I may be wrong . I know my non-turbo RX-8 recommended premium, but that’s a special engine, and doesn’t really count in this discussion.

Textured Soy Protein > Chariotoflove 09/14/2018 at 16:07

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If you go on fueleconomy.gov and start looking up cars, you’ll find that the majority of regular cars from non-luxury brands are fine on regular. Here’s one example.

Dat Camry highway mileage tho!

Nick- Professional Car Destroyer > Textured Soy Protein 09/14/2018 at 16:15

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Pre tune my old Cobalt could run on 87 octane just fine, Timing would adjust for it and all would be well.

Honestly, I was never in a pinch enough to use 87, but I can see it as a good thing for people who just buy a car and drive it, or if you have a rough week and that couple bucks you can save would make a huge difference on making it the week.

Textured Soy Protein > Nick- Professional Car Destroyer 09/14/2018 at 16:35

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For me it’s a psychological thing more than anything else. It used to be more of a real problem.

When I lived in Madison, WI the stations there would gouge the ever-loving shit out of premium. The smallest difference in town (outside of Costco) was $0.70/gallon more for premium. That only happened within the past few years, but it spread all over town.

All of the stations would only put their regular and maybe diesel price on the sign so it’d be a guessing game of how the hell much premium would cost and I’d hate to get burned by pulling in to some random station and getting jacked for $0.90/gal more on premium or something ridiculous. I got so frustrated by it that I’d try to always fill up at Costco, and if I wasn’t near Costco, I’d make sure to check GasBuddy for the premium prices.

A fill-up for my car is about 14-15 gallons, so even at that “low” jump of $0.70/gallon, one friggin tank of premium was easily 10 bucks more than regular.

I’ve since moved to the DC suburbs, where gas in general is more expensive. The cheapest station in my corner of town happens to be right by my house, and they charge $0.45/gallon more for premium than regular . There are a couple other stations a couple miles away that are the cheapest in town. For regular, they’re usually at most only like $0.05/gallon less , and sometimes they’re the same as the place by my house.

B ut they only charge $0.30/gallon more for premium so for example at the moment, it’s $2.78 for regular at all 3 places , but premium at the place by my house is $3.23 vs. $3.08 at the place up the road.

bhtooefr > Textured Soy Protein 09/16/2018 at 11:13

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That’s what happens when you have diesel-like thermal efficiency (and wide-authority variable valve timing to keep that efficiency at partial load).

UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy > 11civicsi-old 09/20/2018 at 10:13

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I’m not sure about when I bought my ‘17 ST last year, but when I got my ‘18 FoST this year, we were already past closed and I decided to be nice and say don’t fill. The next day I came back and went with him to fill it. I could see him hesitate and almost click 87 before putting 93 in lol. I bet they normally don’t but he was a really nice guy and I was also there

11civicsi-old > UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy 09/20/2018 at 10:58

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That’s pretty perfect. I meant to go with them and try to ensure the same happened, however after a morning of buying a car I was quite ready to get out of there as fast as I could.

How do you like driving the two? Loving my Fiesta ST so far, occasionally I’ve found myself wishing I had the Focus, but for the majority of the time I’ve been beyond happy.

Right now I’m only driving it about 800 miles a month or so, so the price difference for 93 hasn’t been too noticeable. However even if the price difference was more considerable, I would almost certainly still be putting 93 in.

UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy > 11civicsi-old 09/20/2018 at 11:59

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I love it, I think it’s a perfect DD short of the suspension being a bit rough for Cincinnati roads. It makes up for it with handling and you can’t  have it all. Averaging around 25mpg 90% City driving. More trunk space than a gti which is what I needed. I got the non recaro cloth seats and I’m glad I did, very comfortable for daily driving and still has good bolstering for tight corners and spirited drives. I do appreciate the room it has and I use it often, if you don’t need a lot of space I don’t think you missed out getting the fiesta. My next car will probably be the mk8 R as I would like another hot hatch and the ST won’t be an option. If I’m starting from scratch with a new brand I may as well go for the gusto. If the next ST/RS had been coming I’d consider it again.