What is the most Jalop 911?

"I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker" (qaaaaa) 09/14/2018 at 10:42 • Filed to: None

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I’m looking at pricing on new 911s, which leads me to question what the “Most Jalop” and “Most Oppo” 911 is. Jalop, being slightly more mainstream, would probably go the the 911 Carrera T. Oppo, being broke, would probably go to the cheapest, the base 911 Carrera.

How I would option it: absolute base model, with no options besides a logo delete, in the best color that has no upcharge:

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Just Jeepin' > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 10:51

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So don’t leave this broke Oppo hanging: how much would that be?

interstate366, now In The Industry > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 10:51

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The most Jalop  911 would be a barely functioning 996.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 10:54

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Not new, used 997.2 Gen 2 Carrera S with the IMS issue solved, or if you want to take the risk, a Gen1 which will be like $10-15K cheaper.

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-porsche/porsche-997-carrera-catch-it-while-you-can/32423

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 10:54

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A ratty 996

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 09/14/2018 at 10:55

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Controversial, but I think the most Oppo non-new 911 is the fried eggs one. That or the cheapest Boxster you can find.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Just Jeepin' 09/14/2018 at 10:57

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Like 93k after processing fees

daender > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 10:59

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The answer is a Corvair Monza Turbo. Affordable, oddball, and it went turbo flat-six many years before Porsche offered it...hell before Porsche even offered a six-cylinder car!

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > interstate366, now In The Industry 09/14/2018 at 11:00

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Right, but the most Oppo of the new ones?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > interstate366, now In The Industry 09/14/2018 at 11:00

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This.

Just Jeepin' > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 11:00

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Not terrible, especially for my favorite color. Still about 70k more than I’m willing to pay right now.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Just Jeepin' 09/14/2018 at 11:02

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About 90k more than I’m willing

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > daender 09/14/2018 at 11:03

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The Corvair is the best 911. The Chevette is the best 944.

Just Jeepin' > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 11:03

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well, if I’m looking at  cash on hand, same.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 11:03

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996? I thought general consensus was that it was the “cursed one” and everyone hated that. Personall y i don’t mind the exterior looks but the interior is leagues better in the 997.

Doug seems to like the 996 though

https://www.autotrader.com/car-video/heres-why-porsche-996-911-best-911-you-can-buy-266225

nermal > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 11:04

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Used - A 996 with a blown engine .

New - A GT3, manual, with this color:

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 09/14/2018 at 11:04

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It’s Oppo because it’s hated.

daender > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 11:08

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No, the Monza Spyder is the best 944!

Nom De Plume > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 11:11

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I defy you to prove me wrong.

punkgoose17 > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 11:14

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I spec’d mine really close to your Oppo version. I got the Porsche logo painted, rear wiper, sport design mirrors (I don’t like the black on the mirrors and the sport design is $50 less than getting the black part painted.) I also got the smokers package and net in the passenger footwell because those options were free.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > daender 09/14/2018 at 11:18

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Changed my mind again, this is the best 944.

kanadanmajava1 > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 11:27

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Caterham Sev e n 160?

Textured Soy Protein > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 09/14/2018 at 11:28

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I don’t know if it’s the most jalop but it’s the one I’d go for. The only thing that bugs me about the 997.2 is the LSD was a rare option on the C2 , but standard on all the C4 variants.

Future ND Owner > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 11:28

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The least expensive new 911 I would spec out would be a Carrera S ($105k). I would tick the boxes for Night Blue Metallic, Bi-Xenon Headlights, Rear Wiper, Heated Seats, and the Bose Sound system for a total equipment cost of $4,170. Total car cost is $110.

Which is why I am in the used boxter/cayman market and not the new 911 market.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > kanadanmajava1 09/14/2018 at 11:33

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Oddly, this is actually the best Corvette you can buy new.

WilliamsSW > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 11:37

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Base model 996 with 125k, at least 1 accident on the carfax, 5+ owners and a noisy IMS. With a manual trans of course. 

AddictedToM3s - Drives a GC > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 11:37

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I find it funny how even in your analysis there is no mention of the manual GT3. Although all the keyboard racers all were so quick to condemn the lack of a manual 991 GT3, there is still no indication they ever bought the manual 991.2  GT3 when it was announced. 

M.T. Blake > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 11:38

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The most Jalop 911 won’t be a 911. It would be a 944 but if it HAD to be a 911 it would be a 996 911 with no options and ratty as all  hell.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > M.T. Blake 09/14/2018 at 11:40

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944s are too expensive now. They are indeed Jalop- but the most Oppo 911 would be something like a Fiero.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > AddictedToM3s - Drives a GC 09/14/2018 at 11:40

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The GT3 isn’t Oppo. It’s R&T, if anything.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > WilliamsSW 09/14/2018 at 11:42

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A 996 that already popped its IMS and had a KA24DET shoved in there instead

interstate366, now In The Industry > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 11:47

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In that case, my TL should be the most Oppo TL.

AddictedToM3s - Drives a GC > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 11:47

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I was thinking more for the Jalop 911 since that’s the entire comments section every time any article about a car with a PDK is posted.

I would personally want a Miami blue 991.2 GT3 with a PDK with the black  LED lights.

jasmits > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 12:39

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Definitely the 912. We’ll spend a lot of money to have the cheapest and worst one. 

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > jasmits 09/14/2018 at 12:47

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912 with a turbo Hyundai Beta 2.0 thrown in there

Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > M.T. Blake 09/14/2018 at 13:04

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I’d love to say I resent that but resemble is far  more accurate

jasmits > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 13:57

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Can’t do it, cylinders are too vertical. A Subaru boxer would clearly be way too mainstream of a thing to swap in so for a more modern powertrain I think one would have to go with a later Alfa Boxer

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > jasmits 09/14/2018 at 14:20

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Anything is possible with enough money. Also, didn’t Bisimoto throw a turbo Lambda V6 in a 986? I think it’s doable.

jasmits > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 14:31

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Oh I wasn’t talking about technically, I just meant it seems wrong to put an inline engine in a 912. 

NYankee1927 > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/14/2018 at 16:04

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Since we are discussing new and the T has already been spoken for, I am going with the 911S with power kit to bump the HP to 450. Stealthy fast

Saracen > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 09/14/2018 at 18:03

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Inaccurate article. 2005 997's are the ones with real IMS bearing issues.

2006-2008 have a larger, non-serviceable bearing but failures are super rare. My ‘06 has never shown any signs of IMS bearing wear.

2009 brought a new engine with its own issues...but true, no IMS, or IMS bearing .

Having said all that, IMS bearing failures are not, and have never been the big issue with the M97 engines. Nope, that would be bore scoring. But risk can be easily mitigated. Plenty of info out there on that.

Also, the market for 997.2's is crazy high right now.

bhtooefr > jasmits 09/14/2018 at 19:58

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912 in brown with a manual and a Subaru EE20 swap