Shits blowing up

"OPPOsaurus WRX" (opposaurus) 09/13/2018 at 20:25 • Filed to: None

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Just north of Boston there has been 60-100 structural explosion s and fires from natural gas lines. Holy shit. I couldn’t imagine coming home and seeing my house blown across the neighborhood.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > OPPOsaurus WRX 09/13/2018 at 20:33

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My friends back in MA have been posting about what’s going on. Scary to think that something happens to over-pressurize the lines and suddenly 100 homes are burning. Apparently they are bringing in fire crews from as far as NH and VT to assist. 

BJ > OPPOsaurus WRX 09/13/2018 at 20:46

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These guys couldn't  save the world this time?

punkgoose17 > OPPOsaurus WRX 09/13/2018 at 20:51

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Somebody done fucked up.

That would be horribly scary. I remember just 1 house blowing up here; 1 person died.

Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) > OPPOsaurus WRX 09/13/2018 at 21:09

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Oh great. Work is going to be a shit storm tomorrow. Best guess here is a post city gate failure or an overpressure .

E92M3 > OPPOsaurus WRX 09/13/2018 at 21:13

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I used to work for an oil & gas pi peline integrity company. This is going to become a lot more common as the natural gas lines in many places approach 100 years old. Many companies don’t even know what they have, or how to proactively replace the oldest pipes. Most of their inf rastructure was laid before computers, and men wrote down notes on paper what pipe they used, welding technique , etc. They have hundreds of boxes of these, and couldn’t find notes on the pipe going into your neighborhood if you asked them. If they could, they may not even be able to read it. Many of their docu ments have been lost over the years to everyt hing from water leaks, acquisitions, fires, you name it.

Luckily everything laid today is digitally recorded in GIS appli cations.

And let’s not forget, ANYONE can operate a backhoe in this country with no training what- so- ever. I could rent one from Home Depot tomorrow and start digging up my yard. Even though 811 is a free service, you’d be surprised how many people never use it.

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > OPPOsaurus WRX 09/13/2018 at 21:19

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I’d rather come home to see my house blown across the neighborhood than be home when it happens. 

OPPOsaurus WRX > Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) 09/13/2018 at 21:36

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I heard over pressure. There was one guy R the bar in the restaurant claiming terrorist. Fuck him

OPPOsaurus WRX > E92M3 09/13/2018 at 21:38

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I heard over pressure being the cause.  Yeah it's scary thinking of what we rely on every day.

Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen > E92M3 09/13/2018 at 21:38

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“Luckily everything laid today is digitally recorded in GIS applications.”

..beca use for sure that’s going to be accessible in another hundred years. Even 50 year old digital records are less accessible than paper nowadays - seen a 7 track tape drive o r 5.25 " floppy lately?

E92M3 > Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen 09/13/2018 at 22:37

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They won’t have a choice but to move it to new media. The records they keep are m andated by the federal government . Everything is on servers in the cloud, and backed up daily to another datacenter in a different geographical area. If the databases are lost, it won’t matter because we’ll all be dead. About the only way for that to happen would be a huge asteroid strike, or some other universal, planet destroying even t.

Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) > E92M3 09/13/2018 at 22:50

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Exactly this. My company  started ripping up everything over a certain age and replacing it a few years ago. 

E92M3 > OPPOsaurus WRX 09/13/2018 at 22:51

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New installations have safety valves to prevent this kind of stuff. But there are huge distri bution pipelines without modern safety systems everywhere. Like running right beside hotels, schools, etc. One of our software products was to run models on what the damage would be if a section of pipe was com pro mised and rate the level of severity based on it’s surroundings. The more populated the area, the cl oser it was to structures, t he greater the risk. Helps to prioritize what sections of pipe they need to do inspections on, and make upgrades to first.

Pipes fail, we lds fail, b ut the biggest threat, and most common denominator is reckless and irresponsible digging.

Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen > E92M3 09/13/2018 at 23:08

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“They won’t have a choice but to move it to new media. The records they keep are mandated by the federal government”
. ..w hich is why they’ve do ne such a grea t job of looki ng after and digit ising the paper recor ds, right?

I’m just cynical about the permanence of records stored on techno logy developed by an industry that thrives on obsolescence and change. I suspect that 50 years fro m now nobody will have bothered to port “low priority” c ivic records to the latest quantum biocomputing mcguffin storage technology , there’ll be only 3 people left in the world who can debug a rusty old Linux server and nobody who understands anyth ing as primitive as a SQL database, and when they finally try to retrieve those gas main pl ans they’ll find out that the ancient solid state drives h ave had so many bits flipped by passing neutrinos that the dat abase  server’s error checking has given up in disgust , someone accidentally deleted the inde x file , and the doc the y’re afte r got encrypted by ranso m ware decades earlier anyway .

Ink on p aper does at least have the advantage that given halfway decent storage conditions - though way less dece nt than a server farm needs - it doesn’t require continuous effort to maintain, and it has a demonstr able history of lasting many hundred of years.

So get off my lawn.

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > E92M3 09/14/2018 at 00:06

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!!! UNKNOWN CONTENT TYPE !!!

Yeah. No. This is pure bullshit. Oil/Gas is one of my core SI customers. They know full well how to. They know where the gaps are. Yes, it is true - they have no idea what is there, or how it was built, but they know EXACTLY where they are blind and what is required to fix that.

And t hey straight up do not care. Because the prices crashed out. It’s far cheaper to pay a fine that isn’t even a fraction of the change in their couch cushions. Period. When Brent is $150/bbl, FUCK YEAH MAKE BIGGER PIPES! When NatGas is $10. 50 per MMBtu FUCK YES FIX THOSE PIPES TO CARRY MORE!

Gas prices around $2.66 MMBtu at the wellhead? Yeah. There’s no fucking profit. All maintenance and repair, cancelled.

And once again, people are dead and dying in the naked pursuit not of money but of EXCESSIVELY MORE MONEY FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN MONEY.

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > OPPOsaurus WRX 09/14/2018 at 00:07

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I sincerely hope you fucked him up the second he used it with racist terms.

E92M3 > Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen 09/14/2018 at 07:59

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We’ll all be using “Free Energy” by then right? The ancient gas lines will already have been dug up for scrap and recycled to be used in our robot fleet, and to build our colonies on Mars.