Scam, or too soon to tell? Carfax help?

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09/12/2018 at 06:05 • Filed to: Scam, Porsche

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I found a Cayman that appears to be for sale at about 2/3rds of market value (on Craigslist, of course). I expressed interest using a burner email account and asked for the VIN to do more research. Below is the reply: scam, or too soon to tell?

“Hi, the Cayman is still available for $16,500. It has 43,100 miles, clean title, no accidents and no money owing on it, and I recently had it inspected, you can see the History Report and the Inspection Report attached to this email.

I just got a very good contract to work for a VIP Gym in London, England and I need the money for an advance on a house, that’s why I am in a hurry to sell it.

I have left the car there with a broker, with all the paperwork (title signed by me, keys, service records, etc) so they can handle everything for me. I have empowered them to transfer registration on my behalf, arrange inspection etc.

Let me know if you are interested so I can put you in contact with them and here is a link with more pictures.”

So, he did attach an “AutoCheck by Experian” report that included the VIN and vehicle history. Also provided the inspection report. But having just been in London, $16,500 is not going to help much on a house . . . It might cover a couple of months rent. I’m going to ask for the broker info, but I’m still suspecting that this is a scam. With the reports, it does look tempting.

Anyone able to run a CarFax report on this VIN?

WP0AB298X8U782525

I shouldn’t even be looking at this, since my savings just got messed up by needing to replace one of my HVAC units in my home. But that’s what retirement funds are for, right?

Unrelated Cayman for your time.

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DISCUSSION (18)


Kinja'd!!! Jayvincent > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com
09/12/2018 at 06:40

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No need to ask... it always a scam. 

 - needlessly explains why they are selling below market value? check

 - using a broker or an agent? check

 - on Craigslist? check

 - mangled grammar? check

 - overseas connection ? check

Feel free to play along, but don't wire any money...


Kinja'd!!! Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com
09/12/2018 at 06:45

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Let’s see...

-suspicious price

-claims of relocation forcing sale

-alleged sale being facilitated by 3rd party

My bet is his story is crap and he’s actually selling a car that was previously sold without the title ever transferred or some other crazy shenanigans. The low price is to get you to look the other way.

Also if a broker were handling all this, why isn’t the broker the point of contact or the one making the ad? What’s the point of making a post when you have to defer every reply to someone else?


Kinja'd!!! Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com
09/12/2018 at 07:14

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https://www.carfaxonline.com/cfm/Display_Dealer_Report.cfm?partner=VAU_0&UID=C433938&vin=WP0AB298X8U782525

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Kinja'd!!! AC2 - The Now 15 Year Old Jalop > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com
09/12/2018 at 07:32

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I’d go for it. But then again, I’m a sucker for Caymans


Kinja'd!!! E90M3 > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com
09/12/2018 at 08:27

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I googled the VIN and this came up in the search:

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If you still miss all the proverbial red flags, here’s a literal one:

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Kinja'd!!! facw > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com
09/12/2018 at 08:28

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Yeah, that smells like a scam to me.


Kinja'd!!! TysMagic > E90M3
09/12/2018 at 08:34

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Was just about to post exactly this link - the reddest of the flags.

If you get the vin, it’s always worth tossing it to the interwebs for answers. 


Kinja'd!!! E90M3 > TysMagic
09/12/2018 at 08:46

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I found some small red flags online for $1. I think I’m going to get a few to give to people when they need a literal red flag. 


Kinja'd!!! TysMagic > E90M3
09/12/2018 at 09:46

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I love it. The little construction flags in red would work nicely


Kinja'd!!! LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com > E90M3
09/12/2018 at 10:28

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Perfect. I had just enough time over breakfast to read the email and make the Oppo post, then I drove 2.5 hours for a meeting and I'm about to go into another .   . . But I should have searched the vin. Thanks, clearly a scam. I'm curious what the next email will say. 


Kinja'd!!! BJ > Jayvincent
09/12/2018 at 11:07

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Don’t forget these two gems :

- despite listing’s location, the vehicle is actually in your city. Wow!   check

- vehicle is unfortunately in a sealed container/storage facility so it can’t be inspected.   check


Kinja'd!!! LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
09/12/2018 at 16:54

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Did the title history show owners in Florida? That's what his history showed, but I'm curious if that was faked. 


Kinja'd!!! Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com
09/12/2018 at 18:42

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Yeah it’s a FL car. Originally from GA at first but first sold in FL


Kinja'd!!! LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
09/12/2018 at 19:45

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Hmm. Being offered in Jacksonville, FL, so possibly legit . I still think it’s a scam. Haven’t been given the contact info for his “broker” yet.


Kinja'd!!! Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com
09/12/2018 at 19:59

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Its a scam


Kinja'd!!! LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
09/12/2018 at 22:27

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I agree.


Kinja'd!!! Chariotoflove > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com
09/12/2018 at 23:56

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Only peripherally related:  we had our big A/C unit go on us this summer (they always go out midsummer), and so did our fridge in the same week.  That was a heck of a week.  Gutted our liquid cash margin.  So yeah, I feel ya on that one.


Kinja'd!!! LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com > Chariotoflove
09/13/2018 at 06:20

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Yes, I’m fortunate that i t isn’t oppressively hot right now and the second floor unit can keep the house tolerable until the repair.