Car Shopping: Candidate #1 - Update II

"CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever" (carsoffortlangley) 09/09/2018 at 19:25 • Filed to: None

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I’m likely buying this thing. It’s fine. No AC (whatever, I have 2 others with it) no keyless entry (it unlocks like my D100!) , no auto headlights. But it is a nice car, comfortable with an awesome price and warranty.

Off to look at a 2018 Kia Forte LX. 6MT, $12K CDN ($9146USD) and 27km (16 miles). Brand new. A little out of my $10.5K CDN budget, but I think worth it? Input?

Low price, but I guess nobody is buying base model manual 4 door sedans anymore.

Remember, this is just a piece of equipment for work. Not a fun car or something that I will feel anything but slight contempt for.

vicali > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 13:37

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I feel slight contempt already - it’s perfect..

A friend replaced her civic with one as a high mileage to and from ft Mac work driver. I asked her how it was after a year and she couldn’t tell the difference.. I guess that is a positive  review!

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > vicali 09/08/2018 at 13:38

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If this car was a spice, it'd be flour.

DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 13:41

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They’re alright, manual is decent. Th eres worse but also better options on the market

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! 09/08/2018 at 13:43

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Sure, there are better options, but at the price? I gotta cover this + insurance with my car allowance 

Junkrat aka Rick Sanchez: Fury Road Edition > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 13:44

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That’s a killer price on a perfectly fine automobile. I have an in-law and a co-worker that have these, both with the manual. They seem to like them and haven’t heard of any major problems. Base model means less things to break.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Junkrat aka Rick Sanchez: Fury Road Edition 09/08/2018 at 13:46

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Exactly, base model means no fancy screen or anything. But, same warranty and build quality!

Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 13:47

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If it was a book, it would be two books.

punkgoose17 > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 13:48

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That price seems like a great deal. I have not even seen a Rio listed that low.

CB > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 13:49

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Nice price.

someassemblyrequired > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 13:58

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It’ll be no drama, and under warranty.   6MT will make things more fun, as long as you don't have to drive in downtown Van much.   Probably a sensible choice.

vicali > Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo 09/08/2018 at 14:04

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Or a package of looseleaf..

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > someassemblyrequired 09/08/2018 at 14:11

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I may have to drive downtown, but only at night

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 14:20

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I would say go for it. Seems like a terrific price and a warranty so no worries if shit breaks. It’s also so cheap that a few door dings and rock chips will not bother you at all.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 14:47

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What about a used Forte5 SX instead? /Oppo

In all seriousness, that sedan would be the perfect bland reliable thing. 

Forrest > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 14:57

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Do it!

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 15:43

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Honestly, the base models are the best buys nowadays. A/C still blows cold. Radio will still have bluetooth and aux jack and whatnot. Seats are comfy enough. I loved the old recaro seats in my FiST but not a single way in hell was that radio “upgrade” to the SYNC unit worth the cost for the privilege. Especially in the FoST where it is 4k to get the seats and stereo package? For a unit that still crashes and has bugs galore?!?!?!

Dude, go for it. You’ll never love it but maybe that’s a good thing. ANd you’ll always know it’s there for you. Don’t know if it’s the same in Canada but the koreans offer a 6-year 100,000 mile warranty on their cars in the US. Pretty good deal IMO.

Textured Soy Protein > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 15:57

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I was going to throw a curveball suggestion of the much uglier Nissan Versa sedan which has a lot of room inside and surprisingly good steering, but Nissan doesn’t sell it in Canada, go figure.

I also figure I’ve had assorted base model Hyundai & Kia products as rental cars and they’ve always been fine enough. Not exciting, but honest unpretentious cars that get the job done and are generally pretty quiet and comfy. 

Textured Soy Protein > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 16:00

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Oh and the price is probably because they’re clearing out old stock before the new one, and it’s a Kia.

404 - User No Longer Available > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 16:06

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Its Hyundai twin is the same price, apparently.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > 404 - User No Longer Available 09/08/2018 at 16:09

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I’ll look into this

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 16:58

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No reason for contempt! Sure, they're ecoboxes, but they are perfectly fine cars and can still be a little bit of fun, even if they obviously aren't a Fiesta ST. :)

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Junkrat aka Rick Sanchez: Fury Road Edition 09/08/2018 at 17:00

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I have a base model 2009 Hyundai Accent hatch with no power anything, no Cruise, no ABS, no anything....it’s been about 90,000kms since I bought it and other than maintenance items, i t’s been dead reliable! :)

Nibby > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 21:32

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thebigbossyboss > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 21:35

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Got a 2012 Focus for sale I could bring in early october, if you’re serious about it. 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > thebigbossyboss 09/08/2018 at 21:38

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I kinda need one ASAP for work, looking new because I can write of the mileage and depreciation on my taxes.

Sorry!

pip bip - choose Corrour > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 21:39

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A/c is overrated 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > pip bip - choose Corrour 09/08/2018 at 21:46

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Man, I need it.  This is gonna be my office many days.

Under_Score > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 21:52

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Mirage!

AestheticsInMotion > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 21:54

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Hmm. You went from Wranglers and Crown Vics to this... I can’t help but be disappointed

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 22:04

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I get along fine without A/C on my car, but I live in a semi rural area....not much slow driving around in towns or traffic jams, so with the windows open, the climate control set to cold and the fan on high, it’s cool enough for me to be fine. Maybe not supremely comfortable, but certainly not “Oh my God, why do I do this to myself” unpleasant.

D efinitely would probably be a need for you living in the city...

Stapleface > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 22:17

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I didn’t realize you could get a car without AC these days.

Not sure what you’ ll find in your price threshold though.

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 22:24

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I’m guessing that this is what they call the Cerato...I drove one and it was a fine car apart from the lack of sound deadening.

Base model manual S of the new version is going for 20 grand drive away here but that’s with AC and some active safety features

fhrblig > pip bip - choose Corrour 09/08/2018 at 22:54

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Younger me used to  that. Younger me was full of shit.

fhrblig > Textured Soy Protein 09/08/2018 at 22:55

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The current Versa is hot garbage though.  The three I had in my fleet at my last job were abominable.  Even with a manual, it’s nasty.

fhrblig > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 22:57

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I don’t think any manufacturers sell cars without a/c in the US anymore.  Except maybe the Jeep Wrangler.  Could be wrong, though.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > AestheticsInMotion 09/08/2018 at 22:57

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I know, I am an Oppo traitor.  I wanna be Jalop as hell, but I want to keep my ST and write off my milage/depreciation

Forrest > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 23:22

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Have you looked into aftermarket A/C? (I don’t know much about it)

dsigned001 - O.R.C. hunter > pip bip - choose Corrour 09/08/2018 at 23:22

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I can't speak for Canukistan, but in my neck of the woods, A/C is needed.

Forrest > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/08/2018 at 23:23

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How does the car allowance work? If you tell us more, you could turn all the oppos loose to shop for you.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Forrest 09/08/2018 at 23:42

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$500 a month (CDN). Plus I can write off mileage and depreciation !

Textured Soy Protein > fhrblig 09/09/2018 at 10:26

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I know in the traditional sense the Versa is not a *good* car, but somehow the couple times I’ve had them as rentals in the past couple years, I’ve found myself respecting it. It’s cheap, comfy, roomy, good on gas, and I actually like the steering.

fintail > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/09/2018 at 19:33

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No AC? Looks like a Canuckistan thing, US models appear to have it standard (and are a bit more expensive). Have fun out in the valley in the summer!

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > fintail 09/09/2018 at 19:36

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Yeah, valley summer I think I will be taking the ST still. But at least 8 months of the year it will be OK. Saving a lot of wear on my little Fiesta.

(Only I would buy a 2018 new car to preserve my 2014 with 100,000kms on it).

fhrblig > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/09/2018 at 19:40

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It may not have Auto headlights, but does it shut them off if you leave them on? That's almost the same.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > fhrblig 09/09/2018 at 19:41

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Not sure.  Doubtful to be honest.

dogisbadob > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/09/2018 at 19:43

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If you’re in Canada, why not just buy a NEW Micra for $9999? :o)

fintail > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/09/2018 at 19:43

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Was a Micra too small or basic?

There are cars out there with 30K kms and a lot more wear than your ST.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > fintail 09/09/2018 at 19:45

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A Micra was a lot more plastic and less features for not that much of a savings. Not to mention the Forte is the biggest car I will have ever purchased

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/09/2018 at 19:46

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You may regret not having AC in your work vehicle. Like, bigly.

fintail > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/09/2018 at 19:52

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The Forte is probably also safer, a consideration when driving a lot in that region. More value, I agree.

Smallest car I’ve ever bought was a C-class lol

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/09/2018 at 20:00

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Did you try the new Rio?

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 09/09/2018 at 20:03

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I know, but I would bigly miss the few grand to get one with it.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 09/09/2018 at 20:12

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Can’t afford (gotta cover this+insurance with $500 bucks a month)

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Under_Score 09/09/2018 at 20:12

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I have some standards

Khalbali > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/09/2018 at 20:21

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I quite liked it, and you said it’s just an appliance.... 

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/09/2018 at 20:21

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The Rio is the model below the Forte though?

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 09/09/2018 at 20:25

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I know, but this car is $6K off MSRP.  Trust me, I’ve looked at hundreds of cars online and 10's in person this week

Under_Score > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/09/2018 at 20:47

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Standards and new cars under $10,000 don’t seem to match, no offense.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Under_Score 09/09/2018 at 20:53

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Touche.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/10/2018 at 00:33

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Wuss!

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > fhrblig 09/10/2018 at 00:33

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Younger you wasn’t a WUSS!!!

DutchieDC2R > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/10/2018 at 05:30

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What happened to that 10k Fiesta? Typing error?

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/12/2018 at 06:09

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FYI t he headlights are probably on the ignition circuit. Even if you leave them on, they probably turn off with the key - my current 2009 Hyundai Accent has that, so I can’t imagine they removed that feature on Hyundai/Kia’s newer models. So, there is no way to accidentally leave them on.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 09/12/2018 at 08:17

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Indeed they are!

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 09/12/2018 at 16:40

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Yay, I knew a thing!