"KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time" (kngt)
08/31/2018 at 09:56 • Filed to: caught on dashcam, Dashcam, Florida Man, florida
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"KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time" (kngt)
08/31/2018 at 09:56 • Filed to: caught on dashcam, Dashcam, Florida Man, florida | 0
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Florida Man (duh) gets fatally shot in classic controversial Stand Your Ground case.
After a heated text message exchange with his on-again, off-again girlfriend, Jason Boek followed an Uber he thought was giving her a ride home. Driving along a dark stretch of two-lane road in central Florida, Boek swerved his pickup truck early Tuesday morning in front of the rideshare car. Uber driver Robert Westlake slammed on his brakes.
They narrowly avoided a crash and stopped in the middle of the roadway.
Then, Boek jumped out of his truck and quickly walked toward Westlake’s Hyundai Elantra.
“You know I got a pistol?” Boek said, holding an object in the air. “You want me to f****** shoot you?”
Bang. With one shot, the Uber driver killed him. The Sheriff’s Office later confirmed Boek had a cell phone in his hand.
Westlake then called 911 and attempted CPR on Boek. Authorities said Westlake is a concealed weapon permit holder and a licensed armed security guard who also just finished the police academy.
“This is a justifiable homicide all day long,” said Sheriff Grady Judd of the Polk County Sheriff’s Office, during a press conference. “You have the right to protect yourself. This is a classic stand your ground case. This was the intent of the law.”
Florida’s “stand your ground” law says people have no “duty to retreat” if they believe they must use deadly force to prevent death or serious injury.
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CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
08/31/2018 at 10:11 |
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Honestly, as a Canadian who is appalled by stand your ground, this is 100% legit. Even if you shot him in Canada you probably would have been ok other than the firearms charges.
Party-vi
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
08/31/2018 at 10:13 |
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Pretty stupid to be making threats like that in a state where people get shot over standing in a McDonald’s line.
davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
08/31/2018 at 10:17 |
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Why didn’t he just put it in reverse as soon as the guy cut him off and stopped? That would’ve been my first thought instead of grabbing a gun...
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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> Party-vi
08/31/2018 at 10:18 |
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Other Stand your ground cases have not been so cut and dry. This recent one is an example of a straight up murder that thankfully did not go unpunished
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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
08/31/2018 at 10:19 |
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“Here’s a message for the hotheads of the community: Don’t do that stuff. Good people carry guns, and they will shoot you a lot. Graveyard dead,” Judd said.
Milky
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
08/31/2018 at 10:22 |
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Sidenote, he fired one bullet. After watching all of the police shooting videos I assumed you had to empty the damn thing.
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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> Milky
08/31/2018 at 10:25 |
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I know right? pinpoint accuracy. Most of these trigger-happy cops always seem to empty the entire clip, or worse:
Morons.
WRXforScience
> Milky
08/31/2018 at 10:25 |
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Well, he’s just starting police training.
Future next gen S2000 owner
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
08/31/2018 at 10:29 |
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I’m a sick bastard but saying “ oh my god”* right after you shoot someone is hilarious. What did you expect? That’s what happens when you shoot someone. I get the passengers saying but, the not one who pulled the trigger.
* According to the subtitles.
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WRXforScience
> davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/31/2018 at 10:32 |
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That’s such a t errible message. The dudebro was still a human being and he’s still dead, there should be a modicum of reverence to the weight of the situation regardless of how glad we as a society should be to have one less dudebro to deal with.
It’s still tragic when an asshole is killed, we’re just allowed to laugh at their actions without feeling too bad.
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Milky
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
08/31/2018 at 10:35 |
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I remember that, they definitely got trained by a stormtrooper.
ALSO NOT A GRAY NISSAN.
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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> WRXforScience
08/31/2018 at 10:36 |
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Yup. I get the point of why the sheriff said it - to hopefully prevent future, similar incidents - but could have used a lot more tact.
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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> WRXforScience
08/31/2018 at 10:38 |
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I really hope Boek didn’t have any kids... What a terrible way to see your dad go out.
JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
08/31/2018 at 10:39 |
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something something “gun control means hitting your target... ”
I’m a socialist-disolutionist-lefty and I own guns. The NRA is a bunch of crazy fucktards, but this part is mostly true: “guns don’t kill people, people kill people”.
My agreement with the above statement doesn’t mean I don’t believe in sane and well considered limitations to the weapons people are all owed to obtain easily for use in killing other people.
yeah, idiot in the truck maybe didn’t deserve death, but he sure did play that stupid game like he was angling for the stupid grand prize.
E92M3
> WRXforScience
08/31/2018 at 10:40 |
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He probably saved that guy’s off again/on again girlfriend’ s life. A guy like that would of eventually killed her.
MarquetteLa
> davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/31/2018 at 10:43 |
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Well if you run you don’t get to stand your ground! You’re just a yellow-bellied coward who is anti-America !
/s
Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
> Future next gen S2000 owner
08/31/2018 at 10:51 |
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If you read the story from CNN the Uber driver is shaken up that he had to even do that and unintentionally kill somebody in the process of defending himself.
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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/31/2018 at 10:58 |
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If you don’t mind reading the Daily Mail, the “other side of the story”
Urambo Tauro
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
08/31/2018 at 11:02 |
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Well, that was quite a turn. When you opened this post by calling it a Stand Your Ground case, I thought you were just being sarcastic. I watched the video and thought that the pickup driver shot the Uber driver in cold blood.
But the story said otherwise, which I thought was a typo at first until I watched
the clip again. Yeah, that does look like a phone... Not that there’s much time to react when the pickup driver is calling it a pistol.
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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
08/31/2018 at 11:08 |
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Left behind a 5 year-old... smh...
nermal
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
08/31/2018 at 11:23 |
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Meh. I wouldn’t call that one straight up murder - The shooter was shoved to the ground and threatened.
He’ll probably get off.
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nermal
> Milky
08/31/2018 at 11:25 |
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It only takes one to be effective, but it may be the first one or the 20th
one.
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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> nermal
08/31/2018 at 11:32 |
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Shooting someone dead just for getting shoved and possibly getting away with it. This is why I said “standing your ground” is controversial. It’s very clear he was typical wannabe tough guy crazy gun owner itching for a chance to “take some one out” the moment he “felt threatened”
Records show Drejka does not have a criminal history in Florida, although the Sheriff’s Office had prior contact with him in 2012 when a driver accused him of pulling a gun during a road rage incident. Drejka denied he showed the gun, and the accuser declined to press charges. McGlockton’s history included a drug conviction in 2010 and an arrest for aggravated battery a decade ago, records show, but the charge was dropped.
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Milky
> nermal
08/31/2018 at 11:40 |
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I think 1 should be effective, especially if they’re unarmed.
My bird IS the word
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
08/31/2018 at 12:11 |
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Police training is dump the mag. Most officers don’t get much range time u nless the go on their own dime.
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My bird IS the word
> Milky
08/31/2018 at 12:12 |
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Thats inline with police training
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My bird IS the word
> davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/31/2018 at 12:15 |
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Windshields aren’t known for their bullet resistance. Also the guy tried to run him off the road already.
You can literally what if these situations all day.
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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> My bird IS the word
08/31/2018 at 12:18 |
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I agree, and I’m not saying the Uber driving acted poorly. Just saying my first thought with dealing with crazy people is to get as far away from them as possible.
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Milky
> My bird IS the word
08/31/2018 at 12:43 |
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Sounds idiotic. You don’ t even do that hunting and the point is to kill.
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WRXforScience
> E92M3
08/31/2018 at 14:13 |
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Yup, she was either a victim of abuse or was about to become one. I’m not saying the guy wasn’t awful, just saying that as a society (especially the guy who’s job it is to maintain order) we shouldn’t celebrate this sort of thing.
I’m glad he’s not out there being an ass anymore, just sad that it took killing him to change his behavior.
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nermal
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
08/31/2018 at 14:14 |
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Agreed that it’s controversial. In both this case and the one in the OP, the shooter was not the aggressor though.
There’s also a difference between shoving somebody and shoving somebody hard enough that they fall.
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WRXforScience
> Urambo Tauro
08/31/2018 at 14:14 |
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I thought the pickup guy did the shooting the first time I saw the clip too, when the guy was waving around his phone and calling it a gun I totally believed him.
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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> nermal
08/31/2018 at 15:01 |
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Not buying it one bit. Maybe the lady who he was aggressively harrasing over a simple parking violation should have shot this asshole and claimed she was threated because she could be fearing for life as angry middle aged men could quite possibly be carrying a gun. Technically the guy was defending the woman was he not? Becuause, if you can get killed for shoving someone comes looking for a fight that is a slippery slope which means verbal arguments could also be justified in some cases .But then she is black and the shooter is white so you know how these cases would go. Read the article fully, he went looking for trouble. He could have just called the cops instead, but no. He WANTED that confrontation. He couldnt let it slide. He has manslaughter charges now becuase shoving someone is not reason to get killed as the lawyers have argued. Have you never been to a place where people get drunk? People get shoved and shove back all the time, except in Florida where you can apparently kill someone over it. It’s not like a poor old helpless man who was jumped by someone and shoved down to the ground and beatrn and had no choice but to defend himself from a vicious attack. N ormal people don’t do this shit not even responsible concealed carry owners I would assume.
That is not the same case as swerving into someone nearly causing an accident, walking up to the car threatening them saying you have a pistol and saying you would kill them AND pulling out something that looks like a gun and point it at the other guy who had done absolutely nothing even remotely aggressive but just doing his job. Uber driver is justified, the parking lot vigilante is not.
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My bird IS the word
> Milky
08/31/2018 at 15:30 |
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Where do I start with that?
hunting, you intend to eat the meat, not spend a month picking pieces of lead out. two, if the deer gets away, nothing happens. Three, most jurisdictions limit the amount of rounds in the gun from 3 to 5, most hunting weapons are manually actuated. Most animals also run away when you shoot at them. for most dangerous game, large caliber rifles are used to guarantee an instant kill, wheras most cops are armed with handguns. Four, most departments don’t have enough funds or staff to train their officers constantly. five, if your life was at stake you would absolutely positively insure that the motherfucker was dead. People survive multiple gunshots all the time.
I mean seriously.
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nermal
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
08/31/2018 at 16:10 |
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Zimmerman got off for worse.
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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> nermal
08/31/2018 at 16:28 |
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Agreed. In the end, I think the manslaughter charges are right for Mr.Parking lot idiot and it is right that uber driver is not charged.
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E92M3
> WRXforScience
08/31/2018 at 16:33 |
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You’re right, it shouldn’t be celebrated, but it’s a good lesson for others. Don’t ever pretend like you have a gun. Cause you never know if the other person does. I’m just glad this guy had a dashcam. That really s aved him a lot of headache.
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Milky
> My bird IS the word
08/31/2018 at 18:51 |
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I mean seriously IF your life is as stake.
Also 4 makes no sense. You need training to not unload your clip into someone?
Berang
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
09/01/2018 at 21:47 |
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Gotta love gun owners, amirite?
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Berang
> E92M3
09/01/2018 at 21:48 |
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That’s really neither
here nor
there, since the shooter didn’t know either him or her, and just shot a guy.
Spanfeller is a twat
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
09/01/2018 at 21:48 |
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“I’ve got a pistol, do you want me to shoot”
I think I’ve amassed in a single sentence why guns should be ilegal, so that idiots like this guy don’t get one.
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E92M3
> Berang
09/02/2018 at 11:58 |
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Yo u mean “ just shot a guy ( who is insane, has a hard time controlling his anger and will risk ot her people lives to run down a car, to beat up an Uber driver for merely picki ng up who he thought was his ex- girlfriend) ”
He did all of society a favor.
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Berang
> E92M3
09/02/2018 at 12:54 |
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Except he didn’t know that, so it doesn’t matter. This is just a story of road rage. The guy’s background is irrelevant because the shooter didn’t have any clue about it.
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E92M3
> Berang
09/02/2018 at 20:50 |
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You’re right, his background doesn’t matter. All that matters is he ran down a stranger, and jumped o ut of his vehicle pretend ing he was going to shoot him.
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Berang
> E92M3
09/02/2018 at 21:44 |
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...and therefore reasonably should be dead, right?
I mean I hate a road raging jackass too, but shooting a stranger because they’re being a dipshit isn’t admirable.
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My bird IS the word
> Milky
09/03/2018 at 13:13 |
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hit probability. it’s like rolling dice. Why not roll 20 at once?
like I said, when you shoot at someone it’s best to insure that they actually die. it’s hard to argue against a literal wall of bullets. shooting pistols is hard when you don’t train, vs rifles which are actually pretty easy.
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Milky
> My bird IS the word
09/03/2018 at 23:50 |
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My problem with it though is that they’re not judge, jury and executioner. You don't need the person to die. W hen it does goes bad, 8 bullets in someone’s back gives them no chance.
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My bird IS the word
> Milky
09/04/2018 at 14:03 |
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I still ties in to weapon s training. A single bullet, even in somebodys leg, can kill them. Bullets ricochet off of bones all the time. Inversely, some people like 50 cent can survive multiple gunshots. If you shoot someone, even once, it has to be with the in tent to kill. At that point, you shouldn’t be shooting anyone if you don’t want to kill them.
If there was some instant knockout dart like in the movies, the cops would be using that. I'm not defending police murders. I'm defending the training doctrine and use of force policies.
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Milky
> My bird IS the word
09/04/2018 at 18:52 |
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I dont trust the average person or cop to determine when its time to shoot/kill someone. I’ve now learned that its inline with training to use the whole clip, b ut I still disagree with it.
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My bird IS the word
> Milky
09/05/2018 at 12:49 |
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I just find it a touch ridiculous. They are the ones risking their lives. minimizing that risk is the name of the game. murder is still illegal and cops are still prosecuted for it.
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Milky
> My bird IS the word
09/05/2018 at 13:14 |
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I had a long response typed out and all it would do is prolong a convo w e disagree on. Its oppo, were not fb or the root, we dont need to agree.