![]() 08/27/2018 at 17:27 • Filed to: shitposting, Commer knocker | ![]() | ![]() |
08/27/2018 at 17:34 |
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What am I looking at, and why can’t I stop?
![]() 08/27/2018 at 17:39 |
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Two-stroke diesel made for Rootes Group trucks in the ‘50s-’60s. Nicknamed a “Commer Knocker”.
![]() 08/27/2018 at 17:40 |
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Port overlap seems excessive, and it doesn’t seem easy to fix like Napier did.
![]() 08/27/2018 at 17:41 |
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Needs more deltic
![]() 08/27/2018 at 17:49 |
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sounds pretty bad ass for a diese l
![]() 08/27/2018 at 18:02 |
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![]() 08/27/2018 at 18:02 |
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Commer TS3 aka Knocker. Two stroke opposed piston diesel.
![]() 08/27/2018 at 18:07 |
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The gif is actually wrong (as is the Deltic one) because in reality the pistons were out of phase.
Fixing could indeed be an issue because they tended to self destruct, something not understood at the time but it was actually due to the rocker arms that joined the upper and lower conrods being at an angle.
![]() 08/27/2018 at 18:07 |
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Is the supercharger going the wrong way or are my eyes playing tricks?
![]() 08/27/2018 at 18:24 |
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That sounds awesome!
![]() 08/27/2018 at 18:32 |
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We’ve discovered the hitherto little known supersucker.
But not really. The air goes around the outside, not through the middle.
![]() 08/27/2018 at 18:40 |
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My big question is how to get three cranks into a useful output. Large gears (with others so they mesh) to a central output shaft?
![]() 08/27/2018 at 18:58 |
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yes, notice that one of the cranks is running backwards?
![]() 08/27/2018 at 19:34 |
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Is it bad that I look at this and think the weirdest part is that they’re using the Rootes blower as a scavenge pump not a supercharger?
![]() 08/27/2018 at 20:29 |
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I wondered how they reconciliated the need to keep the pistons concentric with each other and the crank pin offsets. Thanks for the explanation.
![]() 08/27/2018 at 20:38 |
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Wow, I’ve double negatived myself into orbit .
Looked at animation. Thought “that supercharger’s going the w
ro
ng way”.
Thought about posting to that effect then decided I’d look up
the Commer K
nocker first
Saw Wikipedia
article saying it’s a scavenge pump not a supercharger
Posted a comment to the effect of using a rootes blower as a scavenge p
ump is
the weirdest thing about this engine
See your comment and rea
l
ise you’re right:
the animation
is actually corre
ct
for a supercharger,
which would make it wrong for the actual implementation
Wonder if W iki is wrong and finds that the interweb seems to be 50/50 on whether the Commer Knocker had a scavenge pump or a superc harger
...mind explodes
![]() 08/27/2018 at 20:52 |
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I love these engine gifs
![]() 08/27/2018 at 23:56 |
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That’s what I thought at first too, but it actually isn’t. Air “scooped in ” around the outside, displaced on the pressure side as the lobes close.
![]() 08/28/2018 at 00:48 |
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https://oppositelock.kinja.com/1828641568
![]() 08/28/2018 at 04:47 |
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By “scavenge pump” they mean a blower. For reasons unknown to me you talk about " scavenging” a two stroke when you actually mean aspiration. So a petrol one uses crankcase scavenging.
![]() 08/28/2018 at 06:33 |
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Misapprehension on my part. For reason s lost to time , I’ve “always known” that a scavenge pump operates on the exhaust side to pull a vacuum , sucking exhaust and inlet a ir through like a mechanical version of a tuned pipe exhaust, while a supercharger operates on the intake side, pressurising the charge . This turns out to be wrong...
TIL
![]() 08/28/2018 at 09:00 |
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It’s a scavenge pump! It’s a supercharger! It’s a scavenge pump and a supercharger!