"The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock" (jukesjukesjukes)
08/05/2018 at 17:33 • Filed to: None
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"The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock" (jukesjukesjukes)
08/05/2018 at 17:33 • Filed to: None | 4
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I come out the zipper to tell you that you are wrong.
facw
> The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
08/05/2018 at 17:42 |
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I mean they are only better in efficiency , performance, and ease of use.
HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute
> The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
08/05/2018 at 17:46 |
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These two ricers at my lunch table we re talking about one of them’s new “Beemer whip” (aka E46 with hundreds of thousands of miles and problems waiting to strike these idiots) and saying how it was a manual and how they keep stalling on the road and complaining how manuals are pointless and how automatics are “more dope”. I hopped up real quick and roasted the shit out of them (mind you, I sit with a bunch of random ‘popular’ kids at lunch and am usually silent) and proved their asses wrong and some of the other pop dudes who actually respect cars backed me up with a loud "AYYYYYYYYY"
Chuckles
> The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
08/05/2018 at 17:52 |
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They both serve a purpose. And the older I get, the more I appreciate having the ability to choose between the two.
MrDakka
> facw
08/05/2018 at 17:58 |
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SCIENCE! once again triumph s over the falliability of the weak mushy meat substrate. We must endeavor to replace the weak, hated flesh and replace it with the blessed purity of metal
wafflesnfalafel
> The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
08/05/2018 at 17:58 |
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I’m not sure if “better” is the right term. They are more fun, engaging and rewarding to some people, (including me.) But they are absolutely not for everybody. Most folks just are not going to enjoy them enough to offset the extra work that it takes in a daily driver.
kanadanmajava1
> The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
08/05/2018 at 18:02 |
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Automatic transmissions are fairly good for drag racing but for any other purpose I don’t like them . I’m not planning to go drag racing though.
Tekamul
> facw
08/05/2018 at 18:11 |
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...and worse in engagement, enjoyment and reliability.
Ease of use is a great quality for an appliance.
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facw
> Tekamul
08/05/2018 at 18:19 |
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Well I did say only. Though honestly I’m not sure about reliability. Manual transmissions are more likely to require expensive service, because the clutch is going to have to be replaced at least once, and quite possibly more than once in its lifetime. Plenty of automatics go their whole lives without anything more than a fluid change (and of course manufacturers claim lifetime fluid these days). It’s just that when things go bad, they are going to cost a good deal more than a clutch to replace.
SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
> The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
08/05/2018 at 18:21 |
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Automatic transmissions were the canary in the coal mine.
If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
> The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
08/05/2018 at 18:29 |
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Automatics are no worse than manuals
interstate366, now In The Industry
> The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
08/05/2018 at 18:43 |
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Depends on what you’re using it for. I went from a manual DD to an auto because I didn’t feel like sitting in city traffic every day with a manual car.
sn4cktimes
> wafflesnfalafel
08/05/2018 at 19:24 |
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Most people I know don’t really care what they drive in terms of “how” it drives. They just care about all the bells and whistles. People my age (35) and younger use cars as a means to and end; AKA getting from here to there requires a car. They don’t drive anything fun, or for fun. I’m definitely the weird outlier in my friend circle having two motorbikes, an 88' AMC and owned a Turbo Veloster and a Wrangler that I beat the crap out of, and a CRX that died slow lingering death . I’ve chosen, and will continue to choose things that have an interesting value to them.
Everyone else hops into a Rogue or Toureg for “safety”. I’ve got 2 donor machines, and wagon that’ll turn into a pancake if rolled. Wife has a sensible AWD Juke... I required her choice to be +160hp.
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The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
> interstate366, now In The Industry
08/05/2018 at 19:40 |
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Just leave a gap & let it idle in 1st. It's not that difficult.
Ash78, voting early and often
> facw
08/05/2018 at 19:41 |
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Exactly. With a clutch, you can plan on $500-$1500 every decade. With an auto, it’s definitely $4,000 — either next year or 20 years from now...
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Tekamul
> facw
08/05/2018 at 19:52 |
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A clutch lasts at least a hundred thousand miles if you can actually seive a manual. And it’s a wear part, that is straight forward to replace.
An auto has no such wear design, and is expensive when it fails. And from personal anecdata, transmission has got to be the #2 old car killer in my friend-sphere, behind only rust.
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interstate366, now In The Industry
> The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
08/05/2018 at 20:41 |
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It’s not, but it gets annoying after awhile.
Urambo Tauro
> facw
08/05/2018 at 21:04 |
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Exactly, although I guess it d epends on the car . Maybe things are more evenly matched these days, but in certain applications, manuals used to have several distinct advantages over automatics. Nowadays, I’m not so sure.
Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle
> The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
08/05/2018 at 21:46 |
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That almost never works for me, if I leave enough gap to not have to use the clutch ; people go in the space. I still won’t give up my manual but in bad traffic, it’s left leg workout time for me..
f86sabre
> The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
08/05/2018 at 23:37 |
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Here is a science project of mine from a few years back....
duurtlang
> facw
08/06/2018 at 00:18 |
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Many manuals never need a new clutch either. I've never had to replace one. My current DD has 336k (km) on its odometer, on the first clutch.
ateamfan42
> facw
08/06/2018 at 11:53 |
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Party-vi
> interstate366, now In The Industry
08/09/2018 at 17:17 |
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I commute from Baltimore to exit 2 off 295 every day and it was awful for about 2 weeks with my manual but I wouldn’t get rid of it now. I love it.
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interstate366, now In The Industry
> Party-vi
08/09/2018 at 17:29 |
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To be fair, it took me 6 years to get sick of it.
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Party-vi
> interstate366, now In The Industry
08/09/2018 at 17:42 |
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My first car was a manual (7 years), and the E46 I had for 5 years had a miserable older 5-speed automatic. I’m thrilled to shift my own gears again.
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interstate366, now In The Industry
> Party-vi
08/09/2018 at 19:14 |
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Ah, yeah, not having a manual at all for an extended period is different. I still have my Prelude for when I want to go row my own. It also helps that the TL has a good 6-speed auto (though the transmission really, really likes staying under 2000 RPMs in regular Drive mode).