"Hoccy" (Hoccy)
06/25/2018 at 03:27 • Filed to: Car Search
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"Hoccy" (Hoccy)
06/25/2018 at 03:27 • Filed to: Car Search | 0
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After over half a year living in Germany, it is getting time to buy a car. What car is however quite open, but I’ve already been looking for some months.
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In fact, I’ve been thinking about this since I moved here, see the link above. The Fox belonging to my girlfriends parents is still the benchmark, along with their 05 Touran with the smallest petrol engine. Both runs out of breath a bit too quickly on the Autobahn, although the Touran is more stable.
We’re only staying here in Germany for another three years, and not looking to spend a heap of money on something spectacular. These criterias should give something decent, but old:
1000-3000€
Manual gearbox (yes)
5-6 gears
Petrol engine
Reliable
Non-VAG
More comfortable than a VW Fox
New(ish) TÜV Prüfung
Cheap insurance
Bremen area (Hamburg acceptable in case of good deals)
I would like something bigger than a Polo/Corsa, but the amount of doors doesn’t matter. I don’t really want a wagon either, or anything bigger than a BMW 3-series due to parking. The fuel economy is usually inverse proportional to the amount of power produced in this price segment, so I can live with less power if I spend less money on fuel.
What have I found so far?
1998 Saab 9-3 2.0i
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+ Interesting car
+ 131 hp Non-Turbo
+ Good shape, should be reliable
+ 2 previous owners
+ New TÜV
+ Cheap at 1499€
+ Insurance at 480€/year
= 235 000 km
- 20 years old, facelift of older model
- Located outside Hamburg
2006 Ford Focus 1.4 Trend
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+ Only 12 years old
+ Only 106 000 km
+ Good shape
+ 2 previous owners
+ Rally pedigree (sort of)
+ Located just down the street
= As basic as it gets
= TÜV until 06/2019
= Insurance at 500€/year
- Only 80 hp from a 1.4
- Expensive at 2990€
2002 Mazda 323 F 1.6 Sportive
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+ Reliable
+ Decent looking
+ Enough power
+ Located in another part of the city
= TÜV until 09/2019
- 225 000 km rather high for such a car
- Previous owners
- Rear fender rust
- 2200€
- Insurance 560€/year
2004 Nissan Almera 1.5 Visia
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+ Reliable
+ Only 104.000 km
+ Enough power
+ 2 previous owners
+ Complete service history
+ Located in another part of the city
= TÜV until 07/2019
= 2199€
- Boring
- Insurance at 520€/year
Opel Vectra 1.8
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+ Good condition
+ Cheap at 1250€
+ 186.000 km
+ TÜV until 04
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2020
= Not far away from Bremen
- A bit boring
- Insurance 630€/year
At this point, the Saab looks lik e the best deal to me. It’s old, but also a lot more car for the money than the others. I’ll probably spend more money on fuel though. I’ll update the post when I find new cars. What do you think oppo?
Goggles Pizzano
> Hoccy
06/25/2018 at 04:02 |
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Hoccy
> Goggles Pizzano
06/25/2018 at 04:04 |
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Not sure if I fit.
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Goggles Pizzano
> Hoccy
06/25/2018 at 04:05 |
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our family and your dog. :-)x
Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
> Hoccy
06/25/2018 at 04:17 |
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I guess they don’t have Honda’s in Deutschland? Seems like a 10-15 year old civic si would fit the bill.
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Hoccy
> Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
06/25/2018 at 04:42 |
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Hondas of that vintage are rare, for some reason there are more from the 90's for sale. A Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla from that time are good options for sure, but there’s the problem of finding one for sale .
Cé hé sin
> Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
06/25/2018 at 04:49 |
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They do - Honda have a factory in the UK - but they don't do well in Europe. Subaru do even worse.
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Cé hé sin
> Hoccy
06/25/2018 at 04:50 |
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Unless you're about 2m or something, you'll fit.
pip bip - choose Corrour
> Hoccy
06/25/2018 at 04:51 |
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Dacia Logan/Sandero?
DutchieDC2R
> Hoccy
06/25/2018 at 04:51 |
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Peugeot 206? Citroen Saxo? Citroen C4/Xsara? BMW 1-series? BMW 3-series compact? Opel Astra? Volvo C30? Kia Cee’d?
RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
> Hoccy
06/25/2018 at 05:30 |
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The 323 wagons are nice cars...the mechanicals are dead reliable (a friend had one that got up to 450,000km on it with no real issues). We got them here in Canada as the Protege 5. They do rust like crazy though...
I'd say Saab or Almera! :)
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Hoccy
> Cé hé sin
06/25/2018 at 06:32 |
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I know. It’s probably a good and funny city car, but not excactly what I want.
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Hoccy
> DutchieDC2R
06/25/2018 at 06:36 |
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Yes to the Xsara, BMW’s, Astra H, C30/S40 and the Kia. What remains is finding good ones inside the budget .
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Hoccy
> pip bip - choose Corrour
06/25/2018 at 06:37 |
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More comfort than a Fox? :P
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pip bip - choose Corrour
> Hoccy
06/25/2018 at 06:45 |
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never sat in either, but the Dacia can’t be too bad
if comfort is the priority, try a Vectra from 95-02 they are the best seats i’ve ever had in a car.
Echo51
> Hoccy
06/25/2018 at 06:53 |
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The focus you found is also a 3 door, which is... thumbs down for city stuff...
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Hoccy
> pip bip - choose Corrour
06/25/2018 at 07:02 |
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A Vectra is a good idea, think I even found a good deal here:
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pip bip - choose Corrour
> Hoccy
06/25/2018 at 07:04 |
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only thing about the Vectras is cam and crank sensors are common, if one goes wrong do both at the same time.
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Hoccy
> Echo51
06/25/2018 at 07:05 |
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It’s probably the reason why it’s cheap for the km and age..
punkgoose17
> Hoccy
06/25/2018 at 08:57 |
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I vote for the Citroen Xsara. Best of luck finding something you will enjoy.
duurtlang
> Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
06/25/2018 at 16:20 |
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Honda stopped offering cars European consumers wanted around the turn of the century, so sales plummeted. Market share has been tiny since, roughly zero.