Good move, Mazda

"KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time" (kngt) 06/20/2018 at 11:35 • Filed to: Mazda, cx-5

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According to a !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! from the California Air Resources Board (CARB) (uncovered by the website The Truth About Cars ), Mazda might be using the same 2.5-liter turbocharged engine found on the CX-9 in its best-selling CX-5, too. The document pictured here shows Mazda testing the engine on both vehicles in the U.S. !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!!

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HammerheadFistpunch > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/20/2018 at 11:38

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What the CX5 needs is the manual with the big engine and AWD.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/20/2018 at 11:42

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There is totally enough room under the hood of a CX-3 for this engine. Make it so, I want a hot small crossover without paying for a GLA AMG-45

E90M3 > HammerheadFistpunch 06/20/2018 at 11:43

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Says exactly 3 people who would buy one.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > HammerheadFistpunch 06/20/2018 at 11:43

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Hah! Keep dreaming. They won’t even do 2.5T AWD manual(or even Auto) Speed6 for crying out loud.

https://jalopnik.com/we-have-no-one-to-blame-for-the-manual-less-turbo-mazda-1820862570

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 06/20/2018 at 11:43

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You. I like you.

But where is this imaginary Utopian LaLa land where this can be reality? I need to take some drugs I guess.

HammerheadFistpunch > E90M3 06/20/2018 at 11:45

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I would have bought one.

HammerheadFistpunch > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/20/2018 at 11:48

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I do blame Mazda though, they gave the CX5 a manual ONLY with the gutless 2.0 (which they eventually decided wasn’t a great engine after all for this car) and then threw their hands up when people *shock* chose the bigger engine with the auto instead. “hmm, must have been the manual that turned people away.” Uh. no. The fact that it sold as well as it did with the 2.0 ought to have been proof of concept for the 2.5 manual

Ash78, voting early and often > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/20/2018 at 11:50

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How about putting a better engine in the CX-9?

I’ll be in the market pretty soon, but it doesn’t sound like that will happen.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Ash78, voting early and often 06/20/2018 at 11:53

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Wait, what? You don’t like the 2.5T in the CX-9? Why? I felt it’s perfectly suited for what it is and the engine has been getting high priase in almost all reviews.

In any case given Mazda’s scale and R&D budget something big is not going to happen anytime soon.

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/20/2018 at 11:56

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Damn you, Mazda - finally putting decent horsepower in your more common offerings. Why couldn’t you have been doing this (or even SkyActiv) when you sold the Mazda5 here in the US? What I wouldn’t do for another 93 horses.

Of course, it would be automatic-only and only on the top trim lines full of electronic gimmickry and easily broken toys I don’t want, so forget I said anything...

E90M3 > HammerheadFistpunch 06/20/2018 at 12:13

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I would have bought one.*

*used in three years.

You might have actually bought one, but a vast majority of people who say they want things like that don’t buy them, hence why we’re not getting a manual M5 anymore.

HammerheadFistpunch > E90M3 06/20/2018 at 12:14

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No, I would have bought one new. I even test drove the 2.0 before deciding against it. I bought a forester XT 5 speed instead. Later when my wife was looking at them her main turnoff was the lack of a manual, so we didn’t buy one. I mean we still ended up with an auto but we also ended up with 8 seats so a manual was never an option to begin with but her losing her 6 speed manual tdi was hard on her too. No good choices out there.

vicali > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/20/2018 at 12:22

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Ever time I see these I think they forgot a part that should go here;

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > vicali 06/20/2018 at 12:23

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“Aerodynamics”

DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 06/20/2018 at 12:24

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With a manual, a lowering kit, and removal of the “rugged” stuff and that would totally be something I’d consider replacing my WRX with.

Chariotoflove > Ash78, voting early and often 06/20/2018 at 12:25

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They will eventually, but not in your time frame if you’re about to start shopping.

I remember when they said the NA Skyactiv had enough power. I remember when they said the engine was too high compression for a turbo. I remember when they said a good balanced roadster shouldn’t have too much power.

Until they worked up to doing it. This will happen too, but not quickly for a company of their resources.

vicali > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/20/2018 at 12:31

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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > vicali 06/20/2018 at 12:35

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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back 06/20/2018 at 12:36

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Not manual, but https://oppositelock.kinja.com/1826987457

syaieya > DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back 06/20/2018 at 12:48

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I think if companies started using crossovers in rally and rallycross a lot of ire would suddenly vanish for the platform.

DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/20/2018 at 12:59

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Meh. haha

DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back > syaieya 06/20/2018 at 13:00

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I think there’s potential in the platform for enthusiasts but you’re right currently they’re marketed for appliance-buyers. Toyota does have a rally RAV4 though...

LongbowMkII > Chariotoflove 06/20/2018 at 13:30

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They also said the rotary couldn’t happen.

Rotary confirmed.

LongbowMkII > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 06/20/2018 at 13:37

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I made the mistake of getting faster cars and now the 5 is just... slow. And now that I’m mostly doing solo city driving 21mpg, basic AND slow has my eye wandering.

Chariotoflove > LongbowMkII 06/20/2018 at 14:14

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Exactly!

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > LongbowMkII 06/20/2018 at 15:37

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As long as I don’t drive anything else, the 5 is acceptably fast, although if I had the automatic I probably would not be saying that. If I drive 100 miles per week I’ve been quite busy, and that doesn’t happen these days when my commute is about 2 miles.

Basic works for me these days, and I really don’t miss the toys I’ve had in other vehicles. Leaky sunroofs, jammed power seats and expensive HID headlight replacements are things I can happily do without. I’ve got a good stereo, comfortable seats, automatic climate control, and really don’t need more than that, but YMMV.

Spanfeller is a twat > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/20/2018 at 21:37

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I’m sure Mazda could find a rotary or two lying around in their factory.

Danangme > vicali 06/21/2018 at 11:05

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I agree, over bite but I may replace my 2013 CX5 that I bought in 2012 with the underpowered 2.0 engine if they offer the 2.5 turbo. I’ve been considering the new Acura RDX but a 250 hp engine in a CX 5 may change my mind.

Danangme > E90M3 06/21/2018 at 11:08

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I know surprised he didn't want a diesel too.