"Spanfeller is a twat" (theaspiringengineer)
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"Spanfeller is a twat" (theaspiringengineer)
06/03/2018 at 01:44 • Filed to: None | 0
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[Politics]
Goodbye Mr. Rajoy; you proved to be a leader of much bewilderment in all of the autonomous regions of Spain, but after the “mocion de censura” past the true loyalties of your friends in the chamber of deputes were shown.
Awarded Best Beard of 2013.
You won’t be missed by anyone, it’s a shame because you did manage to do a lot, you managed to get everyone to hate you, you were the face of a party that is being accused of being the most corrupt party on the country if not Europe, and you’re Galician and some of my family members are proud of that I guess.
You have also proven that the Spanish have short memories; why they do not remember why you ended up in the hot seat oh-so many years ago anyway! Well, now that Spain is back in control of the Socialists, we’ll see how they manage the country, after learning from their housing bubble crisis and asking the idiot to the left in the picture to get the fuck out of their party.
Well, this is awkward.
But Pedro Sanchez of the Socialist Worker’s Party of Spain (PSOE) began his term with a turbulent address declaring that Galicia, the Basque Country, and Catalonia deserve recognition of their nations. Which is the topic today.
Spain has a complex relationship with some of these Autonomous Communities, specially the Basque and the Catalonians. These tough relationships go all the way back to Francisco Franco and Hitler basically using those areas as their personal test sites and a clear cultural division between these communities and the rest of the nation. But Spain is no longer a country where you could be shot for speaking Galician or Catalan, in the case of the latter you’d notice that their language and their culture is widely respected and promoted, yet they feel misrepresented by the central government of Spain, the one in Madrid.
You’d understand it if you look at this map, that tries to guess the GDP of each Autonomous Community:
What the map shows is how rich Catalonia and the Basque Country are; these ACs are economical powerhouses. Throughout the banking crisis, the Euro crisis, the housing bubble, and the Socialist/conservative Parties stealing so much money they might make Mexican politicians proud, these ACs basically paid for all the debt, unemployment, and welfare of the poorer communities. That’s where I call Dingo.
Because if you look at the secession movements, the strongest ones are the Basque and the Catalan. Galicians (which is one of the few revenue neutral ACs) don’t really give a shit about independence. Galicians tend to be older folk, and as such they remember (and reminisce) the era when Franco finally quit and there was a huge focus on keeping the country united. They are proud to be Galician, but most of all, of being Spanish too.
Whether they are subsiding poor people in the south or not doesn’t really matter to them because they believe in unity. Now, when it comes to the younger people in the Basque Country and Catalonia it’s a different story.
Because they never lived through it, and similarly to Neo Nazis in America; they seem to focus on trying to extrapolate their own identity, no matter how toxic it really is. I call dingo on it because to me it seems like behind the proud flags and voting pins there are Taxes; which is what Puigdemont and the others were really behind, if they became more autonomous they would no longer have to pay for the poor folk in the south. Now, you could say “well, fuck poor people” and you might be in your right to feel that way specially if all you see is conservative politicians with 12,000 euro suits. But you need to remember that everyone in Spain chipped in for the remodeling of Barcelona for the 1992 olympics; the preparation for the event drastically changed the city and helped settle it as the avant garde place that is known today.
Catalonia owes the most debt to the central government, 52.5 billion euros to be exact, and one has to wonder what would happen to that debt if they became independent, and how would tax revenue in Spain would be distributed, how much poorer the south would turn, so on and so forth.
We also need to look at other secession movements and where identity comes from. From what I can recall most secession movements are about money and not representation, and really, my family is Galician; they speak it, they have their flag, they have their Xunta, but that doesn’t mean their get to avoid their commitment to their fellow countrymen and countrywomen to the south.
pip bip - choose Corrour
> Spanfeller is a twat
06/03/2018 at 03:47 |
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i have no issue with him, he stopped catalonia being independent
DipodomysDeserti
> Spanfeller is a twat
06/03/2018 at 05:07 |
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“Galicians tend to be older folk, and as such they remember (and reminisce) the era when Franco finally quit and there was a huge focus on keeping the country united.”
When Franco finally quite? What are you on about? Franco never quite. ETA assassinated the fascist Spanish prime minister, Admiral Luis Carrero Blanco, in 1973. Blanco was poised to take over from Franco, and there were no fascists ready to take the reigns when Franco died in 1975. But yeah, those separatists are all a bunch of neo nazis! Dios mio...
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Spanfeller is a twat
> pip bip - choose Corrour
06/03/2018 at 07:07 |
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Did you see how hje did it
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pip bip - choose Corrour
> Spanfeller is a twat
06/03/2018 at 07:12 |
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the Catalans defied the government and he assumed control
i see no problem with what he did
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Spanfeller is a twat
> DipodomysDeserti
06/03/2018 at 07:12 |
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He did quit being prime minister though I think it was a writting mistake because he did die before the king took over; no one in galicia misses franco, what i meant is that they miss the idea of a single strong country that was pushed by the same people that wrote the 1978 constitution.
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Spanfeller is a twat
> pip bip - choose Corrour
06/03/2018 at 07:14 |
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It was quite unnecessary IMHO and it fueled a further struggle againts the central government. Lets see how PSOE behaves because I doubt they actually want to promote more separatism
gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
> Spanfeller is a twat
06/04/2018 at 22:22 |
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Catalonia owes the most debt to the central government, 52.5 billion euros to be exact
isn’t it 72 billion, out of spains 1.18 trillion? Although high considering they are 17% pf the population they may be the highest, but not the greatest per capita.
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Spanfeller is a twat
> gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
06/04/2018 at 22:33 |
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One of our figures must be outdated...
well, per Capita I’d vouch for southern provinces being more endebted