Americans do nothing to stop weapons flow 

"Spanfeller is a twat" (theaspiringengineer) 05/20/2018 at 23:14 • Filed to: None

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And we move heaven and earth to stop drugs

This is so much more complex than this man argues.

Also, what the fuck INE? I don’t pay my tax pesos for a 360p maximum resolution

Nibby > Spanfeller is a twat 05/20/2018 at 23:23

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a link to the video would be nice

Spanfeller is a twat > Nibby 05/20/2018 at 23:25

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You want to watch a spanish language foreign presidential debate?

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Nibby 05/20/2018 at 23:27

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Nah, just make a new context-less post every 5 minutes giving a play by play instead...

Nibby > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 05/20/2018 at 23:29

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Nibby > Spanfeller is a twat 05/20/2018 at 23:29

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no i want spongebob memes

Spanfeller is a twat > Nibby 05/20/2018 at 23:32

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https://twitter.com/hashtag/DebateINE?src=tren&data_id=tweet%3A998296195209580544  

source for memes

sony1492 > Nibby 05/20/2018 at 23:32

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Nibby > Spanfeller is a twat 05/20/2018 at 23:33

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good boy

wafflesnfalafel > Spanfeller is a twat 05/20/2018 at 23:36

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we get our most accurate news through spongebob memes up in the states...

LongbowMkII > Nibby 05/20/2018 at 23:45

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atfsgeoff > Spanfeller is a twat 05/20/2018 at 23:46

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There should be a free flow of drugs AND weapons north and south across the border

FREE TRADE YEAH

Spanfeller is a twat > atfsgeoff 05/20/2018 at 23:59

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I mean, it would make Mexico safer, a lot safer actually, because drugs would become way cheaper and cartels would be less profitable

WilliamsSW > wafflesnfalafel 05/21/2018 at 00:02

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Yeah things aren’t the same since Jon Stewart retired.

The Onion isn’t bad tho

atfsgeoff > Spanfeller is a twat 05/21/2018 at 00:03

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Completely agree. The easiest and most effective way to end the “War on Drugs” is to legalize it all.

Big Pharma would put the cartels out of business within a year.

WilliamsSW > Spanfeller is a twat 05/21/2018 at 00:03

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Hey now - without the drugs no one would need the weapons. And then where would we get that sweet sweet gun money from?

Spanfeller is a twat > atfsgeoff 05/21/2018 at 00:05

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I mean, I think that, unless there’s a prohibition like with Canadian drugs, IMSS will destroy big pharma....

DipodomysDeserti > Spanfeller is a twat 05/21/2018 at 00:29

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You share a border with the biggest arms dealer on earth. Good luck stopping that flow. Mexican drugs are largely regarded as cheap and shitty. Any asshole with a stove can make meth, big pharma supplies the US with opiates and you can get legal high potency marijuana in most western states. The cartels have moved into much more profitable businesses which will be around long after the next Mexican president. They followed the Italian model, and will have mostly “legitimate” businesses in the near future, thus disappearing into the fray. They’ve already started to do this with their state side operations.

Spanfeller is a twat > DipodomysDeserti 05/21/2018 at 00:33

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“This is so much more complex than this man argues.”

DipodomysDeserti > Spanfeller is a twat 05/21/2018 at 00:40

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I mean, it would make Mexico safer, a lot safer actually, because drugs would become way cheaper and cartels would be less profitable

No it wouldn’t. It’s a much more complex than you argue.

Spanfeller is a twat > DipodomysDeserti 05/21/2018 at 00:45

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Oh....

Well quote the comment!

Also, pot makes around 50% of the cartel’s money, lets imagine that smuggling pot becomes way cheaper, lets say it’s now ten cents on the dollar it used to be, that’s cartels loosing 45% of their income, and also finding a good reason to move directly to their customers rather than running the show from here.

I think it’s a terrible idea, I wouldn’t do it, I think we’re better of creating a joint border patrol and a mutually guarded buffer along the uninhabited areas, but that wouldn’t happen either

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Spanfeller is a twat 05/21/2018 at 00:59

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What, you want a single standard?

Spanfeller is a twat > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 05/21/2018 at 01:05

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I do not understand your question.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Spanfeller is a twat 05/21/2018 at 08:59

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As I quickly read your post, my impression was that you were commenting on how hard Mexico is working to staunch the flow of illegal drugs while the US was doing little or nothing stem the tide of firearms flowing south. So its a double standard.

Spanfeller is a twat > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 05/21/2018 at 09:39

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That is the impression that Anaya has. I don’t think it’s your responsibility as a nation to stop the flow of guns south, it should also be said that most security aparatuses meant to stop drugs are subsided by the US government here in Mexico.

The real issue is that we don’t have a proper border patrol, and smugglers fall through the cracks of a broken system.

I think the best solution would be tohave a joint border patrol, bu thats never gonna happen shameful

DipodomysDeserti > Spanfeller is a twat 05/21/2018 at 09:43

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50% of their profits from marijuana? Where’s that figure from?

Spanfeller is a twat > DipodomysDeserti 05/21/2018 at 10:01

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In the case of the Sinaloa Cartel, if pot was legalized in the US it’s estimated they would lose 50% of their earnings by a Mexican reaserch institution called the IMCO.

DipodomysDeserti > Spanfeller is a twat 05/21/2018 at 14:19

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The study looked at losses of the cartels as a whole if Washington, Oregon and Colorado legalized marijuana. The study found there would be a 30% loss in profit. One of the researchers, Alejandro Hope, told reporters that he estimated the Sinaloa cartel would lose 50%, but the study didn’t actually address that figure .

That study was conducted in 2012, and all three of those states legalized marijuana. The cartels responded by focusing on heroin (hmmmm, big coincidence the US has a huge heroin epidemic now) and cocaine. Their profits definitely didn’t dip by 30%.

The Rand had a much more conservative study and looked at cartel losses if California legalized marijuana (much larger market) and found there would be a negligable impact.

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB9559/index1.html

Gotta say that the cartels don’t seem to be hurting too bad. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re involved in the legal weed trade as well at this point.

Spanfeller is a twat > DipodomysDeserti 05/21/2018 at 14:23

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Yeah, but the study doesn’t focus on a sudden free border, the biggest issue is the border crossing, which if it didn’t exist as the opponout suggested (which I think is a bad idea, btw) would make contraband much easier to smuggle, which would drop the price of all drugs, as you say any idiot with a kitchen can make drugs, which means added competition.

dogrivergrad68 > Spanfeller is a twat 05/27/2018 at 02:32

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I think he may be saying that the cartels are getting in on the legal marijuana business. They are still involved, but moved the source of the crops.

dogrivergrad68 > Spanfeller is a twat 05/27/2018 at 02:33

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Sure, why not? They can’t be any worse than the debates with Trump.