SHOCKER: Li'l Fat Kim says, "JK."

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
05/15/2018 at 16:27 • Filed to: None

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ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/15/2018 at 16:37

He just wants to be in the driver seat.

WilliamsSW > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/15/2018 at 16:39

Should go without saying here but lyrics are NSFW

fintail > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/15/2018 at 16:46

I wonder what Jinping did - as he’s the real driving force in this.

facw > fintail
05/15/2018 at 16:48

It is a bit conspicuous, though of course NK always complains about US/ROK exercises. We’ll see if they actually do anything besides complain though.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn
05/15/2018 at 17:02

I’ll let you in on a secret: he has been from the start.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > facw
05/15/2018 at 17:06

He’s looking to see if Trump will tell Kim to get bent and then Kim can claim that Trump canceled the talks. Farbeit from POTUS 45 to say one thing and do another, as if he didn’t mean it in the first place.

fintail > facw
05/15/2018 at 17:12

Maybe China withheld some kind of aid and this makes a good excuse to bail.

Of course, with 45 in Jinping’s pocket, I can’t imagine he’d want to create instability for his new friend.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/15/2018 at 20:17

NK policy and propoganda has been that the south is illigitimate. These talks may thaw relations, avoiding a militiary conflict but I can’t see how the status changes. KIm is a tricky point. He has a nuke and the most dangerous thing is only having one on a launcher. The odds of that threat would almost certainly warrent a strike and there is no way that could go unreciprocated.

Having a few nukes, elevates the threat. given that their test site exploded and has probably delayed development for years this provides a good way to side step.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
05/15/2018 at 21:22

This is an hour long show. Will you tell me a little about it before I dive in?

Your analysis makes sense to me. I think that Kim is playing Trump at his own game. How many times has Trump said opposite things to the glee and wonderment of his opponents only to see those things evaporate?

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/15/2018 at 21:55

wait sorry forget it.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
05/15/2018 at 21:58

Didn’t see that coming...

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/15/2018 at 22:29

The trickiest needle to thread in this meeting is that neither side can loose face. the north has been pushing their program for 20years. with the sanctions crippling their economy, other than threating war there ism’t many other lever the US can pull. Part of me wonders if this is why 45 is bending over for ZTE to win favor with the Chinese.

nope probably just old bribery.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/15/world/asia/trump-hotel-china-indonesia.html

coqui70 > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
05/15/2018 at 23:20

Pay for play ... China said: “You don’t crush our PLA cash-cows we keep that fat NK fuck in line”. Trump cut a deal.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > coqui70
05/16/2018 at 08:13

But is it working?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
05/16/2018 at 08:15

Of all the hoopla the press reports about 45, his tweet about jobs in China was surprising to me. I bet we hear about that one quite a bit in the 2020 run-up.

facw > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/16/2018 at 10:11

North Korea released this statement today:

Pyongyang, May 16 (KCNA) — Kim Kye Gwan, first vice-minister of Foreign Affairs of the DPRK, made public the following press statement on Wednesday:

Kim Jong Un, chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, made a strategic decision to put an end to the unpleasant history of the DPRK-U.S. relations and met Pompeo, U.S. secretary of state, for two times during his visit to our country and took very important and broad-minded steps for peace and stability in the Korean peninsula and the world.

In response to the noble intention of Chairman Kim Jong Un, President Trump stated his position for terminating the historically deep-rooted hostility and improving the relations between the DPRK and the U.S.

I appreciated the position positively with an expectation that upcoming DPRK-U.S. summit would be a big step forward for catalyzing détente on the Korean peninsula and building a great future.

But now prior to the DPRK-U.S. summit, unbridled remarks provoking the other side of dialogue are recklessly made in the U.S. and I am totally disappointed as these constitute extremely unjust behavior.

High-ranking officials of the White House and the Department of State including Bolton, White House national security adviser, are letting loose the assertions of so-called Libya mode of nuclear abandonment, “complete, verifiable and irreversible denuclearization”, “total decommissioning of nuclear weapons, missiles, biochemical weapons”. etc, while talking about formula of “abandoning nuclear weapons first, compensating afterwards”.

This is not an expression of intention to address the issue through dialogue. It is essentially a manifestation of awfully sinister move to impose on our dignified state the destiny of Libya or Iraq which had been collapsed due to yielding the whole of their countries to big powers.

I cannot suppress indignation at such moves of the U.S., and harbor doubt about the U.S. sincerity for improved DPRK-U.S. relations through sound dialogue and negotiations.

World knows too well that our country is neither Libya nor Iraq which have met miserable fate.

It is absolutely absurd to dare compare the DPRK, a nuclear weapon state, to Libya which had been at the initial stage of nuclear development.

We shed light on the quality of Bolton already in the past, and we do not hide our feeling of repugnance towards him.

If the Trump administration fails to recall the lessons learned from the past when the DPRK-U.S. talks had to undergo twists and setbacks owing to the likes of Bolton and turns its ear to the advice of quasi-“patriots” who insist on Libya mode and the like, prospects of upcoming DPRK-U.S. summit and overall DPRK-U.S. relations will be crystal clear.

We have already stated our intention for denuclearization of the Korean peninsula and made clear on several occasions that precondition for denuclearization is to put an end to anti-DPRK hostile policy and nuclear threats and blackmail of the United States.

But now, the U.S. is miscalculating the magnanimity and broad-minded initiatives of the DPRK as signs of weakness and trying to embellish and advertise as if these are the product of its sanctions and pressure.

The U.S. is trumpeting as if it would offer economic compensation and benefit in case we abandon nuke. But we have never had any expectation of U.S. support in carrying out our economic construction and will not at all make such a deal in future, either.

It is a ridiculous comedy to see that the Trump administration, claiming to take a different road from the previous administrations, still clings to the outdated policy on the DPRK – a policy pursued by previous administrations at the time when the DPRK was at the stage of nuclear development.

If President Trump follows in the footsteps of his predecessors, he will be recorded as more tragic and unsuccessful president than his predecessors, far from his initial ambition to make unprecedented success.

If the Trump administration takes an approach to the DPRK-U.S. summit with sincerity for improved DPRK-U.S. relations, it will receive a deserved response from us. However, if the U.S. is trying to drive us into a corner to force our unilateral nuclear abandonment, we will no longer be interested in such dialogue and cannot but reconsider our proceeding to the DPRK-U.S. summit.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > facw
05/16/2018 at 12:28

Wow. If only our own president were so eloquent.

coqui70 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/18/2018 at 16:26

If it doesn’t he’ll die of “natural causes” and the sister takes over.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > coqui70
05/18/2018 at 16:28

Or die in a traffic accident...