Who Would Win?

"Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)" (bman76-4)
04/30/2018 at 22:15 • Filed to: None

From this weekend’s event.

ZL1 1LE : 49.250 seconds raw (41.310 PAX)

Bman76's Miata : 49.191 seconds raw (40.602 PAX)

Hide yo kids, hide yo wives, I’m already slaying giants at my first AutoX with the Miata (and two weeks driving stick).

DISCUSSION (28)

Spanfeller is a twat > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
04/30/2018 at 22:23

I remember going to a track day to Hermanos Rodriguez here in Mexico City and watching a Golf GTi overtake all manners of 911s, said GTi was driven by a 15 year old.

The giant you slayed was the Camaro driver’s ego

nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
04/30/2018 at 22:24

Thats gotta be pretty humbling when your 60k track beast gets beat by the 6k “hair dressers car”

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul
04/30/2018 at 22:27

If there was any more straight he’d have beaten me. You’ve never seen anything accelerate like it, or turn in so hard.

(Also, not even $6k hair dresser’s car)

tromoly > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
04/30/2018 at 22:28

Well yeah, in Autocross unless the aero is designed for 45mph it’s not going to do anything. Get out on a track where you consistently take turns at > 75mph and you’ll start getting smoked.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Spanfeller is a twat
04/30/2018 at 22:30

Nah, he’s a really good guy and a good driver. The ZL1 is new to him too (he ran an SS 1LE last season and was scary quick in it), I have no doubt he’ll get quicker too as he adjusts to the psychotic speed of the thing.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > tromoly
04/30/2018 at 22:31

I’m well aware. If the straights on course were even a foot longer he’d have beat me.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
04/30/2018 at 22:31

I remember when the Miata first came out and we were racing a prepared Datsun 240z. Well that fucking car almost beat me, and I had to step up my game a notch or two. I was like no way 1.6 liters is gonna ruin my day.

AestheticsInMotion > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
04/30/2018 at 22:34

True but still super impressive considering the time you’ve spent behind the wheel of the Miata, and just with a stick in general. Right on man!

Spanfeller is a twat > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
04/30/2018 at 22:38

Does look like a handful, and seeing a 650hp car with true aero, a good chassis,etc being sold for less than 70,000 dollars blows my mind.

Hopefully that speed rubs off on other drivers!

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
04/30/2018 at 22:38

Kinja'd!!!

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Spanfeller is a twat
04/30/2018 at 22:41

It’s honestly the most pissed off looking car I’ve ever seen. Just animalistically intimidating, I don’t know how else to describe it.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > AestheticsInMotion
04/30/2018 at 22:45

I’m still trying to adjust to the lack of weight of the thing. The TA had a ton of tire, but I had to wait for the weight to transfer and stabilize (and if you tried to rush it, it got sloppy). The Miata just jumps back and forth like it has no mass, it’s hilariously fun.

AestheticsInMotion > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
04/30/2018 at 22:50

What’s the plan for the car? Leave as is and carve canyons? Build an autox slaying monster?

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > AestheticsInMotion
04/30/2018 at 22:53

It’s already STS prepped, I’ll probably put the adjustable lower control arms on the rear to get more camber and be done. It needs more driver mod than anything else, lol.

nafsucof > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
04/30/2018 at 22:54

screw pax. raw time all the wa and the miata still beat it.

Spanfeller is a twat > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
04/30/2018 at 23:00

It’s also sort of a wake up call for other automakers, specially those who charged tens thousands of dollars more for special hard core versions.

AHEM PORSCHE AHEM/

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Spanfeller is a twat
04/30/2018 at 23:04

I mean, you can buy a Mustang GT350 for $57k or a GT350R for $64k.

Spanfeller is a twat > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
04/30/2018 at 23:09

Yeah but those aren’t “animalistically intimidating” are they?

lets see what Ford plans for the GT500 though..

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Spanfeller is a twat
04/30/2018 at 23:13

The GT350R is pretty tough looking in person, if a bit less flashy than the 1LE.

Spanfeller is a twat > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
04/30/2018 at 23:15

I’ve seen em, I really liked those cars but I’m not sure it’s a competitor in terms of capabilities. In general I think GM takes the sports car crown for USDM cars.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Spanfeller is a twat
04/30/2018 at 23:28

GM and Ford have approached it from different directions. Ford went completely with chassis development and driving dynamics, while Chevy went big power and aero. (See Ford GT vs Corvette ZR1 as well) From what I’ve read the Fords are easier to drive and would probably be more consistent and faster over multiple laps, while the Chevys are one lap champs.

Spanfeller is a twat > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
04/30/2018 at 23:40

I always thought the Camaro was a better chasis for a sportscar than the Mustang, but it’s anecdotal evidence from reviews really.

I guess both play to their strengths, Ford makes fantastic hot hatchbacks and their AWD systems in the Focus RS and the MKZ 3.0 ecoboost are incredible, but GM has gotten their shit together with good RWD chassis cars that have been universally praised and that monstrous LS helps them. Nevermind their fancy magnetic dampers!

Axial > Spanfeller is a twat
05/01/2018 at 00:19

GM has always been really good at building handling cars for a given period of time. Even back in the ‘80s, the Corvette with the Z51 package was making mockery of 911 Club Sports. Really, Ford hasn’t been much good at anything performance until fairly recently when it comes to road-cars.

adamftw > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/01/2018 at 06:56

Way to go, dude. Got him raw time, which is more impressive. I used to slay worked STis all the time with my humble 2.5RS at autox events. Miss those days.

Arrivederci > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/01/2018 at 07:49

Awesome, but not surprising! I remember an old article where one of the car rags put up the Bentley Continental Supersports against a Miata on an autocross course. The Miata won there too - that’s what the Miata is built for.

Jayhawk Jake > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/02/2018 at 16:35

Your 49.19 was dirty and you know it.

Ya both lost to a stock Mustang. Fite me irl

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Jayhawk Jake
05/02/2018 at 19:02

RAW time was specified!

and I used his best RAW too.

Jayhawk Jake > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
05/04/2018 at 14:18

Generally raw just means not pax, and you specify ‘clean’ vs ‘dirty’