I need a car (calling all Oppos!)

"HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute" (hondoyota) 04/08/2018 at 13:15 • Filed to: Necessary car shopping with Hondoyota, Necessary car shopping without E90M3, Unless of course E90M3 wants to help :P

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Its gonna be my first. As of now I drive my dad’s CR-V but since he goes out more, I can’t use it when I want to. That, and I need something I can learn stick on and some wrenching. List of criteria:

Manual transmission

Up to $10,000, preferably less

Relatively fun to drive

Pretty cheap insurance

Something that I can wrench on, not too much though as this is the car I’ll DD

Oh yeah, daily driveable

Has good space to store bodies cargo

I’m 5'11", still growing, so nothing TOO small

Reliable

These are the main things, I’ll think of more later. My ZIP code is 34746, so something within 200 miles is fine (I’m not scared of a little road trip). Thanks y’all!

AestheticsInMotion > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:20

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You think you need space, but you don’t need space.

Miata. In the running for best manual transmissions of the last few decades. Waaaaay below budget. Uhm... Fun? That’s literally what this car was designed for. Insurance is practically pennies. Very reliable, huge aftermarket, and can be fixed up with a 14mm wrench and Google. I’m 6'1, fit just fine. Lower the top and you can store as much as you need, plus the trunk is actually pretty good-sized.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > AestheticsInMotion 04/08/2018 at 13:22

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I’m looking at these, for sure. But I was also looking at the ‘04 Civic Si Hatchback and stuff just because.

Under_Score > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:23

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https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/729679525/overview/?aff=share_text

I’ve been a Tom McParland for the neighbors for a long time. I just found this on the spot. It’s goofy, but good features and all.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > AestheticsInMotion 04/08/2018 at 13:24

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As for the Miata, which generation is best? I personally dislike the NB for literally no reason, the NC is a little bubbly looking but actually cool in person, the ND is badass and the NA is the OG cool little hooner.

AestheticsInMotion > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:25

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An si hatch would also be blast, and a good car to learn on I’m sure.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Under_Score 04/08/2018 at 13:25

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Lol! I actually liked this more than I thought. Not a bad price considering it’s low miles and features.

E90M3 > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:26

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I’m not scared of a little road trip

Road tripping a car home is the best way to get to know it.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > AestheticsInMotion 04/08/2018 at 13:26

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Hows this one: https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?sourceContext=carGurusHomePage_false_0&newSearchFromOverviewPage=true&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d977&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity2=&zip=34746&distance=200&searchChanged=true&transmission=M&showNegotiable=true&modelChanged=undefined&filtersModified=true&sortType=PRICE&sortDirection=ASC#listing=202695139

interstate366, now In The Industry > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:27

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EP3, RSX, or TSX. TSX wagons aren’t quite under $10,000 yet (and aren’t manual anyway).

AestheticsInMotion > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:27

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Depends what you want. For a first manual car, NA or NB would be the best. Especially if you’re trying to get a bit of wrenching experience (without being stranded).

Shit. Three years ago I couldn’t tell a wrench from a hammer and now I’m preparing for a major coolant system overhaul, engine swap and turbo build. All from buying a cheap Miata as my first manual car

Grindintosecond > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:27

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Mazda3? I had an 08 standard ole 3 sport. Held two kid seats in back seat and i didnt have to fold it down for two suitcases laid flat in the back hatch. A manual 5 speed. Every time i searched the best handling manual tranny hatchback that could hold kid seats this was right on top. Did not dissapoint. I dont know how much wrenching you want, but there was enough room to reach everything because it was built for a big pumpkin turbo so without that you got space.

Spaceball-Two > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:27

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Jeep Cherokee. Manual may be a little tough find though

Chuckles > AestheticsInMotion 04/08/2018 at 13:27

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Counterpoint: if your first car is a Miata it might ruin you for life. You’ve got to start with something less fun so that you really appreciate the Miata in a few years.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > E90M3 04/08/2018 at 13:28

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You would know :P

Under_Score > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:28

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Good CarFax, too. I literally went to my cars.com app, used your ZIP and 150 miles, $10,000, manual, and selected a few reliable brands. Boom. If it’s a first car, you want something nice instead of something you always have to work on. This probably has more equipment than the CR-V y’all have. I’m proud of this find, I’m sorry haha.

Chuckles > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:29

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I’m biased, but I recommend a late NA with the 1.8L. The earlier ones had a 1.6L, and we all know that there’s no replacement for displacement.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > interstate366, now In The Industry 04/08/2018 at 13:29

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The insurance on the RSX is crazy because of all the idiot teens here who drive them and wreck them. As for the TSX, is the 1st gen better than the TL of the same years?

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:32

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dirt cheap to buy.. parts are plentifull... roughly all the storage space.. and rwd

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Under_Score 04/08/2018 at 13:32

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Lol. It’s true though, even though we have the loaded EX-L AWD CR-V from 2013, the 2018 completely base LX that my grandparents bought is a ton better as much as I hate to admit it.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:33

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I’d recommend a 1999-2003 Maxima like this one ( https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/2003-nissan-maxima/6526572385.html ). They’re regarded as one of the best-driving four door cars of the time, they’re pretty reliable, plenty spacious, and I think manual ones are more common than with other cars in their class.

interstate366, now In The Industry > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:34

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Yeah, forgot about insurance on those. The TL is more powerful, but more expensive finding a manual and a little higher maintenance.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Grindintosecond 04/08/2018 at 13:34

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These are pretty nice too, my dad loaned one when he crashed his Stratus back in ‘06 and I was in love. It had a manual too, and it was blue.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:36

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I hear there’s a Chrysler Sebring for sale in your area....

;-)

On a more serious note, get a used manual PT Cruiser. They’re dirt cheap, relatively cheap to insure, have easy to fold or remove rear seats and are reliable as long as you don’t neglect oil changes and address any cooling system issues (not expensive to fix, but those plastic/rubber bits need replacing every 5-7 years.)

And for more fun, get the GT version of the PT which has a 215-232hp turbo engine, a getrag manual and other upgrades bits.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 04/08/2018 at 13:38

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Was it you who posted about these a short while back? Since that post I’ve looked at these from time to time. Heard that they have the Z’s engine too.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:39

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For 10k, you can get an 06 and up Si, and that’s a better car by a long shot.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 04/08/2018 at 13:39

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I always thought the PTs were weird and cool. Had no idea there was a stick in them.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 04/08/2018 at 13:40

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BBBBBBBBUT EP3

Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:41

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Hmmmm

I wonder

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 04/08/2018 at 13:41

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I just like the hatch because it’s different and I don’t see much. That, and later in its life I’ll make it into a Type-R replica with some personal touches. I just love the look of the hatches.

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:42

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Also don’t forget insurance. Insurance on a Si will cost more (or any cheap sporty car that young people buy) than you think. Saying that look at the “under dogs”, apart from ground clearance the insurance is why I got he Juke over the VT. The insurance was much cheaper.

There is this Matrix XRS , it has space for when you need it. The rear glass lifts separate from the trunk, the front passenger seat fold flat, & it has a the 2ZZGE with the glorious 8000rpm red line paired with a 6spd. It shares lots of parts with the Corolla so you won’t hunting for hard to find parts. It’s also well under budget at $3200.

There is also this 2009 Pontiac Solstice , for something sporty. This has the 2.4L EcoTec with 170hp. A drop top to enjoy the Florida sun, & a 5spd. Being a GM parts bin special parts will also be easy to find. It’s a bit higher at $9000.

With fuel cheap you could get this 2004 Pontiac GTO . The LS1, & 6spd is like butter on toast. It’s perfectly subtle, & can rip greasy burn outs. Being $9000, it’s lots of car for the money.

You can also brap everywhere with a 2013 Fiat 500 Abarth . It’s not as fast as the GTO, but makes a great noise. would you bite the Italian bullet for $10,000?

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner 04/08/2018 at 13:43

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Your history of screen names tells me otherwise ;)

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner 04/08/2018 at 13:43

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Not gonna lie, these are pretty cool though.

interstate366, now In The Industry > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 04/08/2018 at 13:43

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Mechanically, yes, but they had serious paint problems.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:44

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Everything Nissan made at the time had practically the same engine. I don’t think that was my post but I have spent time behind the wheel of one and they are quite good. It’s a very solid, capable chassis and it doesn’t feel all floppy and big like most large sedans. It was no slouch with an automatic so I’m sure the manual is even better to drive.

They did have rust problems but that shouldn’t be an issue where you are.

Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:45

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https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/1961-mini-cooper/6526980474.html

Much bigger than you think on the inside. The Monte Carlo winner in 1964 was 6,3 so you can fit

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 04/08/2018 at 13:46

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The Matrix and GTO sound pretty good. But the Abarth is suspicious, and I’d take a Miata over the Solstice. Thanks though!

Textured Soy Protein > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 04/08/2018 at 13:48

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Not a fan of these and their cost-cutting twist beam rear suspension vs. the previous generation’s independent rear suspension.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 04/08/2018 at 13:48

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Sounds good.

Textured Soy Protein > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:48

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These are rustbuckets.

Grindintosecond > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:49

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I dont know the gearing on newer generations but mine would do 62 in second 85 in third 105 in 4th. Nicely spaced gears. It was probably a solid 130+ car and with an intake sounded every bit the business. Its PLENTY quick enough for a newer driver to get in PLENTY of trouble.

Reference: i was almost thrown in jail in college because of my 105hp volvo 242.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner 04/08/2018 at 13:49

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Wat da fuq xD

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Textured Soy Protein 04/08/2018 at 13:50

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How about in Florida?

Textured Soy Protein > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:50

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Honestly the Matrix/Vibe is your best bet. Practical, almost as fun as the sporty Hondas of their time, but without the insurance penalty. You could even look at the 05-07 (I think?) Corolla XRS that has the same 2ZZ motor.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > interstate366, now In The Industry 04/08/2018 at 13:50

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But a much less ruined car.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:51

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The 06 and up already has the engine, trans, and LSD.

BeaterGT > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:51

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Beater .

Triple White Firebird

Cheap Insurance Shmeep Insurance . Last somewhat clean SRT-4?!

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > BeaterGT 04/08/2018 at 13:53

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I’m always down for a good beater car. Pass on the Firebird, but that SRT-4 is soooo tempting...... o_O

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:54

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Miata? If atheisticsinmotion has shown us anything, it’s that it isn’t he only car we need

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/08/2018 at 13:54

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Always a viable option

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:57

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Relatively fun to drive doesn’t have to be fast. Or paved. How about a 4runner?

BeaterGT > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 13:57

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I only suggested the beater because I drove one for little while and it was extremely economical. It may not have A/C though...

I like Firebirds and I would even pass on it, although the 3.8 isn’t a bad V6.

The SRT-4 doesn’t seem like a bad deal, but remember it’s a lot of car for a first car.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 04/08/2018 at 13:59

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I like big Toyota SUVs. And for the record, “fun” is slow car fast :)

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > BeaterGT 04/08/2018 at 14:00

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No A/C?! Are you trying to kill me? I live in Florida!! xD

promoted by the color red > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 14:01

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FA Civic Si: Fun, reliable, and cheap to own. I’m 5'10 and I can fit comfortably in my friend’s coupe. Paint’s kinda crap on the blue sedan, but I think a good buff job could make it look respectible. 

https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/honda-civic-sispeed20/6535856825.html

https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/2008-honda-civic-si/6554349111.html

Acura TSX: Same as the Civic Si but more upmarket. Yes, it requires premium fuel but this is the year to have: better engine and many quirks worked out. Worth it.

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/2007-acura-tsx-6spd-manual/6522338336.html

Mazda3: Practical and fun. If you can’t make a Miata work for your lifestyle, this is the next best option. The 2015 is suspiciously cheap, so tread carefully. .

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/2007-mazda-3-hatchback-121k/6539065333.html

https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/2010-mazda-3-hatchback-low/6541794435.html

https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/2015-mazda3-manual/6555341382.html

Miata: I’d buy NB/NC - the NA is entering vintage car status so values will climb and a bunch of shit’s NLA. Plus it’s too fragile for me to recommend to a new driver.

https://orlando.craigslist.org/ctd/d/2000-mazda-miata-mx-5-nardi/6552500921.html

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/d/2002-mazda-miata-mx5-5-speed/6548616008.html

https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/2003-mazda-miata/6532258166.html

https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/2007-mazda-mx-5-miata-grand/6552647389.html

Would be cool if you could restore this one, it’s a limited-edition BRG that deserves to be saved.

https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/1991-miata/6551485908.html

BeaterGT > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 14:01

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Haha, yes I know. The one I had came from Florida and had A/C but not sure if this one does.

Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 14:03

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And that’s super cheap compared to the ones I’ve seen. Normally 17,000

Steve in Manhattan > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 14:04

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Impreza.

interstate366, now In The Industry > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 04/08/2018 at 14:04

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I’ve read that Honda did want to put the better K20 and 6-speed into the EP3, but Acura objected because it would likely take away from RSX sales. That said, I’d still rather get an EP3 and swap in a better K than have to spend who knows what on a better paint job because Honda decided to cheap out on it 10 years ago.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 14:06

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Well they do have the slow part covered. And they drive way better than they have any right to. 3rd gens were the last with the manual and insurance isn’t terrible. I will say that while they have space they’re not big.

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > Textured Soy Protein 04/08/2018 at 14:07

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The Corolla XRS was ‘25-’07, but only had 170hp. The ‘03 Matrix XRS had 180hp, but was down graded to 170hp in ‘04. The Vibe GT kept 180hp from ‘03-’07. I would take a Vibe over the Matrix, it looks so much better.

Under_Score > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 14:09

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No offense, but for just a few grand more, the 2018 EX is so much better that I don’t know why the 2018 LX is still there. The 2015 refresh did wonders for the CR-V; as you know, my mom has a refreshed model and it’s well equipped for the price. However, the new ones, while weird on the outside, are great inside, too.

If you have time, please give the Rio a look. It’s a lot more reasonable than an old Miata or something haha.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 14:13

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The ones with stick are the ones to get. The automatic in the PT was poorly matched to the engine.

I owned a base model manual PT for 2 years. Only got rid of it because a lady ran into it and my insurance wrote it off.

ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 14:14

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1st gen Mini like mine.

Pretty reliable and decently easy to work on. Although if you need to do anything under the hood, you would most probably need to take the front bumper off.

If you use aftermarket parts, they are cheapish. Lots of DIY and good community (forums): https://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/1st-generation-minis-183/

And they are fun to drive. The steering feel and shift action is awesome!

You should be able to find them around $5k and 100k to 150k miles.

Do all these check before you buy tho:

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 14:20

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If you want reliable, cheap, peppier than expected, manual transmission and simple enough to wrench on, I always bring up the car I have as it gets overlooked for being exactly what it is....i.e. a 2006-2010 Hyundai Accent hatchback.

They are very reliable, cheap as chips, the hatchbacks have folding rear seats to carry more stuff, plus the hatchbacks look decently sporty...at least to me. Integrated rear hatch spoiler as standard, side repeaters, etc.

Not a huge aftermarket for them, but if you want to spiff it up a bit there are things like lowering and intake kits available. Parts are cheap as well, and a lot of aftermarket performance parts are cross compatible from the Kia Rio of the same vintage as they were sister vehicles and the Rio had the same engine/trans.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/08/2018 at 14:30

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Christ. I meant to type it’s the only car we need.

itschrome > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 14:35

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What about a c30?

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > itschrome 04/08/2018 at 14:46

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Maaaaybe. Show me one.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > interstate366, now In The Industry 04/08/2018 at 15:07

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Wrap.

interstate366, now In The Industry > promoted by the color red 04/08/2018 at 15:12

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That TSX looks like a winner.

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 15:16

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All these replies and nobody suggested a Veloster yet. Depending on how close to $10k you want to go you could get a Turbo or you could a low mileage NA with the manual for around $7k. I test drove them when they first came out. Really solid little cars. Manual is pretty well sorted though the non-turbos arent all that fast. There were several reasons I didn’t end up buying one but I think it would make a perfect first car. New enough you might even be able to get one with warranty left on it in budget, safer than something older, and insurance should be dirt cheap based on my experience insuring Hyundai’s in the past.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com 04/08/2018 at 15:28

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How’s this: https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?sourceContext=carGurusHomePage_false_0&newSearchFromOverviewPage=true&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d2142&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity2=&zip=34746&distance=200&searchChanged=true&transmission=M&showNegotiable=true&modelChanged=undefined&filtersModified=true&sortType=PRICE&sortDirection=ASC#listing=203274880

dogisbadob > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 15:31

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You can get a very good car for $3000

I’d suggest a Matrix, Vibe, xA, or xB

The Matrix/Vibe were available with the 2ZZ from 03-06 (Matrix XRS and Vibe GT). 8200 rpm redline, but they do require premium. However, even the base 1ZZ motor is a good engine and very reliable and economical.

Here’s a base Vibe

Here’s a good Vibe GT

Ford did sell the Focus wagon in the US until 2007, and it was available with a manual transmission, but they are not quite as easy to find. However, they are reasonably fun to drive and very practical. Not too difficult to work on. DO NOT get a 2000 Focus! The early cars were terrible. They got much better from 2002-on. Keep in mind that it was offered in both hatchback and wagon form, but the wagon has much more room!

The Mazda 6 was available in wagon form from 2004-2007, and it was even available with a manual transmission, but the wagons were only sold with the V6.

Mazda also used to sell the 5 cute lil minivan that might suit your needs. Not the CX-5, not the MX-5, not the Protege5, just 5. Yes, they were available with a stick! Yes, they are fun to drive! Same exact mechanical shit as the 3, same suspension as the MS3. It has three rows of 2 seats. Basically a Mazda 3 with a LOT more room!

Here’s a manual Mazda 5 at a good price

(there’s another manual 5 in Hollywood, but it is much more expensive)

Also, the CRV is available with a stick and you can learn wrenching on one (maybe not your dad’s, but you can get one of your own) (is your dad’s CRV automatic or stick?)

Here’s a manual CRV

Here’s another one

And one more

I hope you like my suggestions

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > dogisbadob 04/08/2018 at 15:38

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Thanks, this was helpful! Our CR-V is the 2013, and they stopped offering the manual in’06. Welp.

dogisbadob > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com 04/08/2018 at 15:55

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The Veloster might be a bit too small for his needs. An Elantra Touring like this 2009 one might be a better choice.

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 15:55

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I haven’t been Following the prices on these too closely, but that seems like a pretty good deal to me. I dig the color. As with most of the suggestions, I’d see if you can find one close on a dealer lot to check out before heading to Miami. Is there a Carmax in Tampa? That might be a good place to check out a few cars - they’ll be a little newer and more expensive than what you’re looking for but with some luck you’ll find things there that are the same generation as things you’ll find in your budget in a private sale. If you’re uncomfortable driving anything there because you know you won’t buy it I’d still say it’s worth walking around their lot to see some things in person. When my wife bought her last car we scratched like 3 things off the list just by seeing the interiors in person and realizing they looked better in photos.

itschrome > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 16:04

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something like this:

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=479064576&zip=14609&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D14609%26startYear%3D1981%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26maxPrice%3D10000%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26endYear%3D2019%26modelCodeList%3DC30%26makeCodeList%3DVOLVO%26searchRadius%3D0&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&maxPrice=10000&firstRecord=0&endYear=2019&modelCodeList=C30&makeCodeList=VOLVO&searchRadius=0&makeCode1=VOLVO&modelCode1=C30

itschrome > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 16:07

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just saw you had your zip: close to you https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=481405955&zip=34746&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D34746%26startYear%3D1981%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26endYear%3D2019%26modelCodeList%3DC30%26makeCodeList%3DVOLVO%26searchRadius%3D0&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2019&modelCodeList=C30&makeCodeList=VOLVO&searchRadius=0&makeCode1=VOLVO&modelCode1=C30

Captain of the Enterprise > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 16:17

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I’m voting for a Honda Accord. Which sounds boring but here me out.

Your young so expenses are important, this will be cheap to insure, gas up, fix and maintain

It will be pretty reliable and should be relatively straightforward to learn to wrench on.

It should be big enough for you

Honda is known for it’s great manual transmissions

It is not too fast, which sounds like a downside but is important because it will help keep you safe. Also it is a safe car based on ratings.

It’s practical with its four doors and trunk.

You can get a nice one within your budget

It will probably last through your college too.

Here are a few examples in your area off of autotrader.

Pretty close to your zipcode $6,995

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=477541273&zip=34746&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D34746%26startYear%3D1981%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26maxPrice%3D10000%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26endYear%3D2019%26modelCodeList%3DACCORD%26makeCodeList%3DHONDA%26searchRadius%3D25%26transmissionCodes%3DMAN&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&maxPrice=10000&firstRecord=0&endYear=2019&modelCodeList=ACCORD&makeCodeList=HONDA&searchRadius=25&makeCode1=HONDA&modelCode1=ACCORD

Not as practical (its a coupe) but a better color and cheaper $5,900

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=479883240&zip=34746&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D34746%26startYear%3D1981%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26maxPrice%3D10000%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26endYear%3D2019%26modelCodeList%3DACCORD%26makeCodeList%3DHONDA%26searchRadius%3D200%26transmissionCodes%3DMAN&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&maxPrice=10000&firstRecord=0&endYear=2019&modelCodeList=ACCORD&makeCodeList=HONDA&searchRadius=200&makeCode1=HONDA&modelCode1=ACCORD

Farther away but another good sedan $6,700

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=478145394&zip=34746&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D34746%26startYear%3D1981%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26maxPrice%3D10000%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26endYear%3D2019%26modelCodeList%3DACCORD%26makeCodeList%3DHONDA%26searchRadius%3D200%26transmissionCodes%3DMAN&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&maxPrice=10000&firstRecord=0&endYear=2019&modelCodeList=ACCORD&makeCodeList=HONDA&searchRadius=200&makeCode1=HONDA&modelCode1=ACCORD

Personally I would go for one of the sedans because I drove a lot of my friends around in high school and still do now that I’m in college. It’s a pain to get people in the back of a coupe.

Svart Smart, traded in his Smart > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 17:02

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I just did a quick search on Autotrader for Honda Fits, manual transmission, $11,000 or less, within 200 miles of your ZIP code, and saw a handful of promising options, especially from the second generation model.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Captain of the Enterprise 04/08/2018 at 17:33

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I have NOTHING against Accords at all! I’ve actually been waiting for someone to suggest them. Thanks!

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Textured Soy Protein 04/08/2018 at 17:47

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But Florida probably not an issue.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Grindintosecond 04/08/2018 at 17:48

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I second this, my 3 has all the air bags great ABS and is still fun to drive.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 17:51

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Sedan or wagon you can’t go wrong with a Mazda 3, so much better than the Honda or Toyota. I bought this car in 2009 and have no intention of getting rid of it any day soon.

Captain of the Enterprise > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 18:02

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You’re welcome! Best of luck with everything! I look forward to hearing more.

ranwhenparked > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 19:25

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I’ve got something for a few grand that might check at least one or two boxes.

It actually came from not all that far from where you are, so its done the trip somewhat recently.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 20:31

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No A/C is good for you!! Makes you strong and builds character!!!

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/08/2018 at 20:50

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I thought what you actually meant was “it’s not that what it isn’t not the car HE had need of... whomever he may have not been.”

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Captain of the Enterprise 04/08/2018 at 21:01

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First I need to get a job. That’ll happen in a month or so, I’m looking for the best places by me.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > ranwhenparked 04/08/2018 at 21:01

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Lol I love me a land yacht. Got a link?

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 04/08/2018 at 21:07

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You’re right. The dead are always full of character.

Under_Score > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 04/08/2018 at 21:27

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I commented a loaded newer Rio on here! The older Accents and Rios barely have any safety gear (ABS, etc), but the 2012-present is a good find. I’m 6'5" and I fit up front in a redesigned 2018 model.

ranwhenparked > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 21:30

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Well, OK. It’s about 1500 miles from you, but I’ve done that trip overnight many times, if it’s any consolation (and once nonstop, but I don’t recommend that).

https://delaware.craigslist.org/cto/d/1984-lincoln-town-car/6527400731.html

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/08/2018 at 21:43

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Don’t do a Panther... or at least, not that specific Panther. They’re shit. I grew up with a 1982 Mercury Grand Marquis... Basically that car with less weight and a bit less power... V8 with V6 levels of power, shitty fuel economy, crappy handling, no-feel-steer-with-your-pinky power steering...

You’re better off with a 2004+ Prius. The Prius will be faster, handle better, use less than half the fuel, be more reliable and more durable.  

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Under_Score 04/08/2018 at 21:50

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The only safety gear I ‘miss’ is the fact I don’t have side curtain airbags, but then again, neither did my old Impreza.

I’ve lived without ABS and traction control for 5 years now and I’m still kicking, though I guess in an emergency, they would be helpful.

I agree though, the generation of Accent and Rio after mine is a fine choice as well!