I hate people.

"OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars" (jakeauern) 04/05/2018 at 14:05 • Filed to: None

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I was just told on the front page I need to put “Extreme Performance Summer” on my ISF.... In a state where it was 75 2 days ago, 30ish this morning, 60 this afternoon, rains more than Seattle, and is supposed to snow on Saturday. Because Pilot Sports A/S 3 apparently are not good enough? He also said my math was wrong, which does not make any sense. because the math was right.

random001 > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:09

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The first rule of FP is do not talk on FP....

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:11

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Buy what you think works if you’re sure that your numbers and all of your other homework checks out.

You are the best judge of what you want to get. It’s a matter of corroborating information so you’re absolutely 100% sure that it’s what you want.

Chariotoflove > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:12

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When I spent time on the FP, the best way to comment was in response to specific posters who I knew a bit about so I had a better chance of a decent conversation in kind of a subthread. Of course, idiots looking to troll or show their brilliance would still jump in, but it helped.

random001 > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:13

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Just read that thread. Oh man...

V8 Camry?

Lexus driving peasant?

He has a BMW? I mean, it’s nice, but it’s not like he’s running something nice, like a Ferrari or a Corvette, right?

WilliamsSW > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:14

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The trolls are out in force today, I see. Must be a full moon.

Just remember not to feed them and you’ll be fine.

I think the way that you laid out the math confused him (it took me a minute myself) but you are correct.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 04/05/2018 at 14:15

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It’s a really good tire in a state that is quad-polar with it’s weather lol. Even summer tires would be a bit meh, especially since my ISF has even seen mud multiple times this past week and a half lol. I wouldn’t want to get anything less but anything more probably wont work unless I only brought the ISF out on the nicest of weekends. .

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > random001 04/05/2018 at 14:16

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Yeah ... So many of the people on the thread are talking primates with their junk out trying to show how much better they are...

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:16

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I just have cheapo $70 all season radials on my Legacy. They’re not particularly stressed by any of my driving and are pretty confident in the snow and muck.

Then again I could be making up for their crappiness because I have an AWD system.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > WilliamsSW 04/05/2018 at 14:17

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Yeah I’m an accountant, we have to lay things out confusing so no one except us understands it so we keep our jobs.

WilliamsSW > Chariotoflove 04/05/2018 at 14:17

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This is very true, and I’ve had some very good discussions with people on the FP this way. The only issue is that you generally need to respond directly to the author in order to get un-greyed. Once you do that, you’re set.

TahoeSTi > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:17

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You just need more tires. Summer tires, Winter Tires, Spring/fall Tires, and Track Tires. I’m sure the PS A/S 3's are good for a few months a year but your car deserves the best doesn’t it

jimz > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:17

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big part of the reason I don’t bother with FP comments is that pretty much anyone I’d want to interact with is here anyway.

I wager the rest of the FP commenters are 13-year-old yahoos who are in their “I know everything” phase, and a handful of trolls.

random001 > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:17

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That’s life.

Even if I still get an eye-twitch at the exhaust...

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:18

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I have no problems completely ignoring fp comments on my posts especially from handles that I don’t recognize. Jalopnik.com has become a popular enough website that it easily attracts trolls, just do your best to keep them in the grays.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 04/05/2018 at 14:18

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Yeah just the sheer size on my tires(245/35/R19 in the front 255 in rear) make my tires expensive to start out with but having 400+ hp and RWD it calls for a little more grip.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > random001 04/05/2018 at 14:19

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Haha great news! Above 130+ it acts as a diffuser and keeps the bumper from melting.

random001 > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:19

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To your point, I have some nice BFG g-force sport comp 2's that I want to put on, and then the weather went from 72, to 30, and will be in the 20's this week, so yeah...they’re not on yet...

You made a good choice.

Chariotoflove > WilliamsSW 04/05/2018 at 14:19

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I got un-greyed on the FP and related blogs by emailing the authors directly and asking for a follow. The only person who took a long time to respond was Collins.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > random001 04/05/2018 at 14:19

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I haven’t had any traction problems all winter.

WilliamsSW > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:20

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I’m in corporate finance, believe me, I know!

The tool with the M5 (cool story bro) is almost as bad.

Noah - Now with more boost. > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:20

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Front page? What is that? Is Mike Spinelli still around?

/s

OPPOsaurus WRX > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:20

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everyone on the internet knows more than you, you should know that. How long have you been internetting bro?

random001 > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:21

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I concede to anything that helps above 130....

WilliamsSW > random001 04/05/2018 at 14:21

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He has a BMW?

Yeah, I’m thinking that there’s no SR20 anywhere to back up his claimed M5 ownership.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > TahoeSTi 04/05/2018 at 14:22

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No tracks close enough(barber is nearly 3 hours and $$$) and we get too much rain. Somewhere around 50" a year average

random001 > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:22

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I have some weird Kumho’s that came on the car, ecsta xs4 or something. They’re...ok. I would have preferred the AS3's. They’re no PSS, but they also don’t try to kill you in the cold....

WilliamsSW > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:23

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Also, if I’m roasting tires every single week, I’m DEFINITELY going to get the high end EXTREME SUMMER PERFORMANCE tires for $450/each instead of something cheaper...

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > random001 04/05/2018 at 14:23

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I’ve been there once. I could definitely feel the downforce from the tailpipes. No doubt in any way.

/s

e36Jeff now drives a ZHP > WilliamsSW 04/05/2018 at 14:23

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I’d give the odds that he actually has an M5 at sub-5%. Especially since M5s don’t come with 305 rears. The douch-bro is strong with him.

random001 > WilliamsSW 04/05/2018 at 14:23

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I really need someone to explain the origin of SR20...

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > WilliamsSW 04/05/2018 at 14:23

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YUP.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > OPPOsaurus WRX 04/05/2018 at 14:24

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Long enough to know I know more than you and you should definitely get another AllRoad.

e36Jeff now drives a ZHP > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:25

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I mean I’m a big proponent of separate summer and winter tires for places that experience winter, and I might suggest you should try out a set of dedicated summer tires, but to tell you that your choices in tires are terrible? That’s just being an ass.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:25

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Linky Link please. I just put Popcorn in my microwave

random001 > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:25

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Whoo. I bet that was crazy!

WilliamsSW > e36Jeff now drives a ZHP 04/05/2018 at 14:25

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Yeah I think you’re about right. I think the odds that he has a driver’s license are only around 70%.

BeaterGT > WilliamsSW 04/05/2018 at 14:25

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“At least I get invited to parties” BRO

Mr. FiSTer of Team FiST Fetish > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:25

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Psssh you call those tires?

Fuck that dude, it’s not his car so he shouldn’t be worried.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > e36Jeff now drives a ZHP 04/05/2018 at 14:26

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Our problem is we don’t experience enough winter, and we don’t experience enough dry summer to justify some PSS. It’s either cold and dry, or hot and rainy. When I have more money I might consider it but then its also another set of rims and finding a set of Lexus BBS wheels is not cheap.

Dasupersprint - base trim is enough > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:27

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You’ve been mentioning your ISF a lot on the FP lately. Please don’t become That Guy

e36Jeff now drives a ZHP > WilliamsSW 04/05/2018 at 14:27

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I’d give 60% odds that he used to have a license but lost it due to some sort of DUI offense. And if you asked him he’d tell you it was total bullshit, the cops were profiling him with his awesome M5.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Mr. FiSTer of Team FiST Fetish 04/05/2018 at 14:27

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ToddinTN’s DInan M3 tires look huuuuge compared to mine lol. I love fat tires.

WilliamsSW > BeaterGT 04/05/2018 at 14:28

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LOL - he’s also claiming that his M5 has 780 HP at the rear wheels. I’m sure that’s true...

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Dasupersprint - base trim is enough 04/05/2018 at 14:28

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More of a reference point. It hard to relate LS400 tires to M tires, etc.

fintail > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:28

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Might rain more than Seattle in volume, probably not duration.

It can rain for a week straight here and we’ll get under an inch.

I’ve never ran summer or winter tires here, no need for either.

WilliamsSW > random001 04/05/2018 at 14:29

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E90M3 has an Oppo post which explains it, let me find it...

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > fintail 04/05/2018 at 14:29

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We get drizzle with damps roads then 2" dumps. The puddles drain quick but the dampness stays.

Mr. FiSTer of Team FiST Fetish > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:30

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I just put my “little” 255 P Zeros on, I’ll miss the look of my 275 winters but it’ll be nice to have that performance back.

WilliamsSW > random001 04/05/2018 at 14:30

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https://oppositelock.kinja.com/in-todays-history-of-oppo-lets-talk-about-something-th-1791443188

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/05/2018 at 14:31

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Its the dumb BMW Subscription article.

e36Jeff now drives a ZHP > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:32

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Max performance(not extreme. nobody that is DDing a car should be driving on extremes. they have virtually zero treadwear and lousy wet weather handling) will actually outperform an A/S tire in the wet. Not by very much though.

WilliamsSW > Chariotoflove 04/05/2018 at 14:32

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Hm - I never thought of that. If you post something very early on (before there’s more than 30-40 comments) that contributes to the discussion, you’ll get ungreyed, too. That’s how I escaped -

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > e36Jeff now drives a ZHP 04/05/2018 at 14:33

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Yeah this car gets driven 1-2 times during the week and all weekend. I’m already seeing major wear.

random001 > WilliamsSW 04/05/2018 at 14:34

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God, thank you so much.

WilliamsSW > random001 04/05/2018 at 14:35

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Haha -thank E90M3 for the post actually!

Keylube > e36Jeff now drives a ZHP 04/05/2018 at 14:36

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I drove across the country on RE71R, then did Motorsports on both coasts. Extreme tires are a lot better than ever before.

Chariotoflove > WilliamsSW 04/05/2018 at 14:37

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You mean for that post by getting starred or for the blog by getting followed?

e36Jeff now drives a ZHP > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:38

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During summer weather, a P4S might hold up better than an A/S due to the rubber compound compromises you have to make to get low-temp grip in an A/S tire, but it’s not going to be night and day. But you’d be melting through extremes if you are doing that much wear to an A/S. Extremes don’t give AF about how many miles you get out of them, they are basically race tires with deeper tread blocks.

On a side note, my Dad tracks a 7-series and he actually has to use extremes because that’s the only tire that won’t overheat and start shedding tread blocks. That’s about the only time I’d say someone needs extremes. I keep trying to convince him to get a second weekend/track car that won’t eat itself on the track, but he won’t do it.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > WilliamsSW 04/05/2018 at 14:38

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https://oppositelock.kinja.com/sr20-rule-fulfilled-464871809

He bought one apparently?

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:38

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Pilot Sport A/S 3s rock for an all season if you don’t get any major snow. That’s what I run on my ST

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > e36Jeff now drives a ZHP 04/05/2018 at 14:39

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Hahsh what do they come with? 275 maybe?

e36Jeff now drives a ZHP > Keylube 04/05/2018 at 14:39

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In what kind of car though. His Lexus isn’t exactly a lightweight, so it would do some damage to a set of extremes.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > WilliamsSW 04/05/2018 at 14:39

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So hes comparing a 780 HP modded m5 to a base subscription M5... Nice.

e36Jeff now drives a ZHP > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:41

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new one is 285 rear 275 front.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:41

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Wow what a prick! Modded M5 (IF that is real)and that kind of attitude immediately conjured up a speicific mental image of this douche in my mind

fintail > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:42

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We have some weird stats here:

http://komonews.com/weather/scotts-weather-blog/3-weeks-of-seattle-rain—3-hours-of-atlanta-rain

Today it will rain most of the day and we will be lucky to crack 0.20", I bet.

WilliamsSW > Chariotoflove 04/05/2018 at 14:42

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The blog, I guess — I’m ungreyed on the FP and I think most of the subblogs (FA, Lanesplitter, etc).

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > e36Jeff now drives a ZHP 04/05/2018 at 14:42

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Darn thing weighs nearly 2 tons lol.

Chariotoflove > WilliamsSW 04/05/2018 at 14:43

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Cool. I haven’t checked for a while. Sometimes those things mysteriously disappear.

WilliamsSW > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:44

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Ha no - look at that photo and the comments :)

e36Jeff now drives a ZHP > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:44

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Closer to 2.5 tons actually, it’s a 750Li F02 which is the prior-gen LWB model. It does disturbingly well.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:45

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Rain is definitely not a detractor for summer tires. Rain + cold is but as long as it is warm you can run 200TW summer tires no problem. Those tires will “work” in 30 degree weather too if its dry, its just not great to drive on bricks.

WilliamsSW > Chariotoflove 04/05/2018 at 14:45

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I go to the FP semi-regularly, and comment occasionally, not often. But yeah, I’ve heard that you can randomly be sent back to the greys.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > e36Jeff now drives a ZHP 04/05/2018 at 14:45

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*ISF is nearly two tons. I figured the 750 is heavier. That’s hilarious that he does that.

Keylube > e36Jeff now drives a ZHP 04/05/2018 at 14:45

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It was a Scion FRS. An extra 1000 pounds isn’t the end of the world if he has a wide enough tire.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > WilliamsSW 04/05/2018 at 14:46

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LORD.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > fintail 04/05/2018 at 14:47

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Haha that would annoy me to death. The one time I was able to make it up there it was Sunny or slightly overcast and I loved it.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > random001 04/05/2018 at 14:48

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wait wait wait, i need a link lol

OPPOsaurus WRX > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:49

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but i know that too. now what?

e36Jeff now drives a ZHP > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:49

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Hilarious is when he passes an M3 or a 911, and he’s done both. As long as the straight is big enough, He can get around a 996 or an e90 M3 and hold them off in the turns. There is only one track that we go to that I can keep ahead of him in my ZHP and its twisty as hell.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:51

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The more I think about it, I kind of wish I put all seasons on my STi. Then I could at least go skiing with the car without having to rent something because it is too cold out. Sure dedicated summers and winters would be better but winter tires are unusable 100% of the time in LA at home. Id have to swap them like every weekend I go skiing rather than twice per year. Plus I already have the Miata as my canyon carver with 200TW summers on it. I still will probably just do the winter/summer on two sets of wheels but I have certainly thought about just compromising to save the hassle.

fintail > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:52

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Summers here are the best on the planet, that somewhat makes up for it.

The worst part of the rain is perpetually wet or dirty cars.

e36Jeff now drives a ZHP > Keylube 04/05/2018 at 14:53

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trust me an extra 1000 lbs will eat that tire alive. it’s not just the extra weight alone. the brakes are going to have to dump more heat, which means the tires get worse heatsoak. My father’s car is a bit more than his ISF and his rims are in the 600F range coming off the track.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > fintail 04/05/2018 at 14:54

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At least the slight enough drizzle keeps pollen off your cars? One of the car wash people at my dads shop was laughing because hell ask them to clean a car not realizing they had done it that morning

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 04/05/2018 at 14:54

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Maybe do Winter All seasons?

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > e36Jeff now drives a ZHP 04/05/2018 at 14:56

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Hahah I don’t know what the Hp/tq figures are like on the 7 but I love having torque. Both E9xM3 owners that have driven it have mentioned that you can really tell that this car has near 100 more torques. I wished mine sounded like theirs though.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > OPPOsaurus WRX 04/05/2018 at 14:57

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You also need a Lexus if you buy another AllRoad. You have to get to work somehow

deekster_caddy > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 14:57

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Well don’t take the winters off until at least mid-April. I use extreme summer tires for 7 months of the year and they are just amazing to drive on, but almost completely unusable in the snow - downright dangerous. Really, really amazing to drive on though - totally worth it.

ttyymmnn > Mr. FiSTer of Team FiST Fetish 04/05/2018 at 15:03

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random001 > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 04/05/2018 at 15:04

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https://jalopnik.com/now-you-can-get-a-bunch-of-bmws-for-the-low-low-crazy-p-1824314276

e36Jeff now drives a ZHP > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 15:05

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Stock its 400 hp/450 torques for his year, but he made a trip to the Dinan parts bin, so he’s pushing something closer to 525/580. And he’s running Pilot Sport Cup 2's, I think it’s 275 up front and either 285 or 295 out back.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > e36Jeff now drives a ZHP 04/05/2018 at 15:06

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Thicccc tires. Mine feel so small now lol

Derpwagon > random001 04/05/2018 at 15:12

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German car owner. You expected something different?

Derpwagon > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 15:18

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before I decided goodyear was a truly horrible company that I no longer plan on giving money to, I bought a set of eagle F1 asymmetric all seasons, they’re a high perf. all season. I ran them on my Legacy GT, then when that was totalled, transferred them to my Supra.

They’ve been absolutely good enough (TM) in twisties and whatnot in the summer (especially on public roads), but I also don’t feel bad about driving to say, Las Vegas and back (from a lil north of Minneapolis) on them, and if I get caught in snow in the mountains they’re not ruined.

Point being, if I need super sticky eff you tires, I’ll buy track tires. For 90% of situations on public roads with how I drive, “high performance” all seasons have been good enough, and it gets me deeper into fall and out earlier in the spring while still being able to hustle enough through a turn that I’m not bored.

That said, being in Minnesota I run dedicated winter tires in the winter.

fintail > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 15:19

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Yep pollen is here for only a short time (soon). Not much dust either, unlike TX or desert areas.

Tree drippings can also be an issue for those without covered parking.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > fintail 04/05/2018 at 15:22

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I wish I had some pictures to describe the pollen here right now....

Google came up with this and with no washing its about right. My ISF was 1/2-2/3 of that after about 4 days

mXxxxXm24 /O/ /O/ > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 15:27

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Do people still read the front page?

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 04/05/2018 at 15:35

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These are perfect for a WRX.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > mXxxxXm24 /O/ /O/ 04/05/2018 at 15:35

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I do because I work too hard and run myself out of things to do at work.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 04/05/2018 at 15:43

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I live where it snows a fuck ton. That being said my “summer tires” are still passable A/S tires because I have to drive on gravel roads, wet roads, muddy roads, and the occasional summer snow storm (BFG G-Force Sport Comp2). I still switch out to Blizzaks in the winter. If I had an ISF I would do the same thing I’m doing now, it’s nice having traction on surfaces other than perfect pavement.