I'm not a troll...

"BaconSandwich is tasty." (baconsandwich) 03/27/2018 at 14:17 • Filed to: None

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But I couldn’t resist.

I’d love to own a Model X, panel gaps and all. But some people take life too seriously and need a poke now and again.

Spanfeller is a twat > BaconSandwich is tasty. 03/27/2018 at 14:22

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Teslas absolutely do not improve with age. Specially their batteries.


In that regard, Teslas are like cream cheese, after an underwhelming amount of time they begin to stink.

Chariotoflove > BaconSandwich is tasty. 03/27/2018 at 14:27

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It sounds like he was the one trolling. He asked for it.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > Spanfeller is a twat 03/27/2018 at 14:27

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The batteries actually hold up a lot better than the Nissan Leaf batteries, so I’ll give them credit there.

Tesla can’t keep updating cars indefinitely. There will eventually come a point when a car older than X years old is no longer going to receive software updates. As long as the bulk of it keeps working, I’d be okay with that. And that’s what makes me sad - I wish electric car manufacturers treated their cars more as platforms than complete packages. Let the user bring their own tablet for entertainment, and hook up their own phone rather than built-in navigation that won’t receive updates after 2 years. The low maintenance factor of an electric car really does lend itself well to being a platform rather than a package, and it’s a shame that more manufacturers aren’t recognizing it.

Who is going to step up and build the electric equivalent of the small block Chevy? Who is going to have the guts to open-source (or open-design) their work once they are no longer willing to support it? Whoever does is going to get quite a following.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > BaconSandwich is tasty. 03/27/2018 at 14:30

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oh... so you’re okay with showing poor little snottys name but you hide your own huh... i see how it is

:p

Spanfeller is a twat > BaconSandwich is tasty. 03/27/2018 at 14:33

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well, the Tesla battery promises (I think ) 80% charge after 5 years....all batteries loose capacity and if you bought the tesla rather than lease it you’ll figure out that selling a 6 year old car that has probably less than 80% original capacity is going to be a struggle.

I’m scared of all the environmental damage batteries will make, Hold on as I, and most auto execs, wait for hydrogen.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > BaconSandwich is tasty. 03/27/2018 at 14:35

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Fine wine does not kill you,but too much KoolAid can

https://jalopnik.com/ntsb-opens-investigation-into-deadly-tesla-model-x-cras-1824115008

BaconSandwich is tasty. > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 03/27/2018 at 14:42

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Hah, my bad. Fixed. :P

BaconSandwich is tasty. > Spanfeller is a twat 03/27/2018 at 14:45

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Honestly, I don’t see hydrogen taking off, at least for passenger vehicles. The entire process is less efficient, the infrastructure is more expensive, and the longevity of the high pressure tanks is questionable (e.g.: inspections every few years, hydrogen embrittlement, etc.). That, and it still allows “big oil” to be a major player. That’s part of the reason why I want an electric car - I can make my own electricity a lot easier than I can make my own hydrogen (or gasoline). Most of the hydrogen out there right now comes from stripping it off natural gas, so from an environmental perspective, it doesn’t make much sense either. At least not right now.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > BaconSandwich is tasty. 03/27/2018 at 14:48

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lol much better :p

Spanfeller is a twat > BaconSandwich is tasty. 03/27/2018 at 14:53

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well, recycling a broken hydrogen tank is cheaper than recycling a battery, plus, material technology advances quick, perhaps quicker than batter tech.

nevermind that a fuel cell system could be made to be lighter than a battery as (again) material science and technology improve.

And while yes, you can make your own electricity, you can also make your own hydrogen through some (admittedly inefficient) processes like water electrolysis. Plus, hydrogen cars release water in cities which to me is a good thing as it increases humidity and lowers the temperature that way.

Plus, as a means of generating electricity, natural gas is cleaner than coal, or petroleum and we will still be using a lot of it, why not reap the benefits of that and use it as a personal transport fuel? Nevermind that hydroelectric dams have a lot of water in them and a lot of power to convert them?

Plus, big oil companies exist because their product isn’t everywhere and they need to bring it across the world, hydrogen could be pretty much produced locally. These companies will also become less shady because a hydrogen leak from a tanker isn’t as bad as an oil spill.


In the end I want to see many types of fuel in the same stations; hydrogen, natural gas, diesel, gasoline, and electricity... but personally I think that the best way will be hydrogen the same way some people today think petrol trucks are better than diesel trucks and viceversa.

BigBlock440 > BaconSandwich is tasty. 03/27/2018 at 14:59

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That’s part of the reason why I want an electric car - I can make my own electricity a lot easier than I can make my own hydrogen (or gasoline).

You can make your own gasoline (ethanol) even easier than you can make your own electricity. Let some mash ferment a week, boil the mixture, condense out a couple gallons of high-test and you’re on your way.

Shamoononon drives like a farmer > BaconSandwich is tasty. 03/27/2018 at 15:11

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I work at an engineering company - software to be exact. I have seem many Teslas in the garage as of late, and Tesla jackets, unfortunately. To me, the true hero is the guy making 160k and still driving a circa 2000 Camry to work.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > Shamoononon drives like a farmer 03/27/2018 at 16:04

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I have a friend who works at Netflix and drives a beater of a Honda. :p