On the other hand

"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch) 03/26/2018 at 16:38 • Filed to: None

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So !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! . It’s a strange thing to say out loud but here we are. Lexus, on the other hand, continues its steady march of disappointment.

This is the Corolla’s platform sibling - the Lexus UX (Ugly X-over) and its literally a taller, heavier, uglier, slower and fancier C-HR, related to the new Corolla. You can get it in AWD, if you get the Hybrid, otherwise its FWD only. It’s all the worst parts of the C-HR without the whimsy, and all the worst parts of the current Lexus design language without the performance.

It’s basically the terrible CT200 only a crossover so it will sell like mad.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > HammerheadFistpunch 03/26/2018 at 16:50

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I actually really like the NX and even sort of like our CT200H, but this think looks just godawful

404 - User No Longer Available > HammerheadFistpunch 03/26/2018 at 16:51

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I really think Toyota’s designers mistook the phrase “jaw-dropping design”. All their cars lately literally looks like a jaw-dropped, gaping mouth in the front. This includes that Corolla hatch...

For Sweden > HammerheadFistpunch 03/26/2018 at 16:52

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I am not excited for the Lexus User eXperience

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > HammerheadFistpunch 03/26/2018 at 16:54

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Alright, who put their NX in the dryer?

fintail > HammerheadFistpunch 03/26/2018 at 17:17

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So much bold dynamic styling, don’t think I am a boring suburbanite, I am an exciting and adventurous dynamo of active living and excitement!

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > HammerheadFistpunch 03/26/2018 at 17:30

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So what should Lexus be building instead?

HammerheadFistpunch > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 03/26/2018 at 17:37

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let’s put it another way - who else is selling a FWD 2.0 NA compact luxury utility vehicle? Why not?

Textured Soy Protein > HammerheadFistpunch 03/26/2018 at 17:38

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With the weak NA motor if it’s any more expensive than an Infiniti QX30 that would be extremely lame.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > HammerheadFistpunch 03/26/2018 at 17:52

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Except that the front of that car looks like it belongs on a fish. And the latest Prius looks like an extra from Alien. Toyota has styling issues.

I own an ‘89 Camry and a 90 Corolla. The Golden Age of Toyota. After that? Meh.

Amoore100 > HammerheadFistpunch 03/26/2018 at 18:21

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Just as a refresher, these are its competitors:

So we’ve got two fish-faced A Classes, a literal potato, BMW designers having a stroke, and two semi-handsome utes. God help us all. 

HammerheadFistpunch > Amoore100 03/26/2018 at 18:23

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Yes, and I would take nearly all of those over the UX

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > HammerheadFistpunch 03/26/2018 at 18:34

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Lexus: putting designer knitware on sheep since 1998.

404 - User No Longer Available > Textured Soy Protein 03/26/2018 at 18:44

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At least with the QX you can brag about the Mercedes engine...

404 - User No Longer Available > Amoore100 03/26/2018 at 18:46

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And in China, this is also a competitor:

bhtooefr > HammerheadFistpunch 03/26/2018 at 19:06

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The funny thing is that it isn’t taller than the C-HR.

Basically, you can get your Corolla hatch at 56.6" and with a 168 hp engine and a manual or CVT:

You can get it luxury and lifted four inches, to 60.6" (apparently it did get taller for America - in Europe it’s 1520 mm, or 59.8"), with the same engine with a CVT, or with a 176 hp hybrid system with a power split device:

Or you can get it lifted another inch, at 61.6", with an older 144 hp engine with an older CVT:

HammerheadFistpunch > bhtooefr 03/26/2018 at 19:11

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yeah, I can’t say I see the logic in going down the chain, but I guess I wouldn’t.

bhtooefr > HammerheadFistpunch 03/26/2018 at 19:36

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I could see someone wanting the Ugly Crossover, but the C-HR really makes no sense whatsoever - slower, almost certainly less efficient, and probably more expensive than the Corolla Hatchback, and you don’t even get AWD for your trouble.

bhtooefr > HammerheadFistpunch 03/26/2018 at 19:44

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My guess is simply that they know the Lexus clientele doesn’t care about performance in this segment, and that 168 hp is actually a lot of power for the segment for the rest of the world. (I mean, its competitors can be had with around 100 hp in low trims.)

And, while most of its competitors have 208-248 hp 2.0Ts in the US as their base engine, the Buick Encore has to make do with a 138 hp 1.4T as the base option, and a 153 hp 1.4T as the top option - so it beats that at least?

Amoore100 > 404 - User No Longer Available 03/26/2018 at 21:36

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Also

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > HammerheadFistpunch 03/26/2018 at 22:47

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You did not answer my question.

HammerheadFistpunch > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 03/26/2018 at 22:49

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Im totally fine with them building in this class, I just wish they were building good cars in this class, something competitive perhaps? look im sure its competent, but with a look like that...it needs to do better than just get by. So to answer your question: a better UX

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > HammerheadFistpunch 03/26/2018 at 23:12

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Define better. Be specific.

I honestly don’t get what is supposedly so wrong about this car. Look, I get styling is subjective. I’m not arguing you have like how it looks. I just do not understand why every single thing Lexus does is immediately met with outright disdain almost bordering on hatred.

aaronet > Amoore100 03/27/2018 at 15:28

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I’m not usually that critical of how a car looks but GOOD LAWD, the Encore/Trax is hideous.

LongbowMkII > HammerheadFistpunch 03/28/2018 at 01:26

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this would be good if it had the turbo. mostly because a turbo cor olla sounds amazing.