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Edited — the national news outlets had it wrong. Dick’s is removing semi-auto rifles from Field and Stream, as well.
NY Times, LA Times, and others completely missed this, stating it was only Dick’s stores. I assume it was from a poorly detailed news syndicator.
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They’re getting rid of them at Field & Stream too.
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According to California law, my .22 becomes an assault rifle with a bipod and flash suppressor. While firing the same ammo at the same rate down the same barrel.
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It’s a nice show of good faith, somewhat of a step in the right direction (21+ age limit is better) but yes, I’d say it’s primarily a PR move. Like .50 caliber bans.
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Thank you! Why the major news outlets all missed this, I’ll never know...
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There are just under 300,000 other firearms retailers in the US who will be more than happy to fill the void.
Their policy shift is an empty gesture to placate the outraged, but I can’t blame them, their email server has probably been smouldering for the past few weeks.
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I depends on how you parse this statement FTA:
This is not the first time Dick’s has made changes in response to a school massacre. In 2012, after the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School that killed 26 people, Dick’s removed assault-style rifles from its main retail stores. But a few months later, the company began carrying the firearms at its outdoor and hunting retail chain, Field & Stream.
This time, Mr. Stack said, the changes will be permanent.
I now see sm70's post. Looks like they will be removed from F&S too.
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The press release (or whatever you want to call it) on facebook says Dick’s stores already didn’t sell assault rifles but they’re removing them from Field & Stream stores.
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Correct, story edited. Apparently Reuters or AP missed this fact entirely today, so the major outlets failed to include it.
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Are you even allowed to have any guns there?
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They also stopped selling them after Sandy Hook, but only in Dick’s stores. We’ll see how long it lasts this time.
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Reading comprehension is hard...
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I think most of the news people are unaware of Field & Stream stores (there aren’t many) and might have overlooked it. But around here, it’s the Redneckbro Mall. Right next to a Costco, which is politically interesting.
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Californians and even most Europeans can own guns. It’s just not quite the free-for-all situation that most of the US has. They actually vet the people who want to own guns ‘round those parts.
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Never heard of Field and Stream.
I bought two of my guns before I turned 21 at Dicks though,.
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THANKS, for saying “thoughts and prayers are not enough”
I feel if that’s all you plan on “contributing”, don’t bother.
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It’s like Bass Pro Shops, but better in most ways (because Dick’s runs it).
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I assume it was from a poorly detailed paid news syndicator.
FTFY
Also, TIL Field and Stream is still in print.
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I didn’t even know Dick’s carried guns of any kind until a few weeks ago. Definitely not a place I think of for them. They’re not even Walmart status (I used to joke that every time I went to one (very rarely), I always bought a box of .22LR, which was true until I lived in CA and they had no gun sections). Nothing I was really interested in at Dick’s (just shotguns, a couple hunting rifles, and maybe a few handguns at mine), but a curious thing. My FIL was the one that suggested them when I was searching for CLP. Guess what they don’t stock there...
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So, they basically just gave a bunch of business away to smaller gun shops. Good.
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21+ is another good step, it also isn’t enough.
I’d like to see more thorough and nationally universal background checks, waiting periods, training, more mental/public health spending, education, etc etc etc. There are so many things we aren’t doing (right).
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Yeah, no change in demand. It’s like the War on Drugs. We won that years ago, right?
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At least in California, many people know the difference between math and a gun still...
https://www.10news.com/news/fact-or-fiction/fact-or-fiction-square-root-symbol-mistaken-for-gun
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I lived there, but I think I was breaking a gun law or three with the ones I did bring when I moved there. I knew enough to leave my AR-15 with a friend that keeps it in a safe in UT. It has been handy as I don’t have to fly with it as a result.
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Are they removing all semi auto’s from sale or just the “scary” ones?
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Sounded to me like the “scary” ones. Wood stock, no pistol grips? Carry on, nothing to see here.
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It will be interesting how the law treats a store’s age policy that deviates from the legal requirement.
If the law lets an 18-year-old buy cigarettes or guns, but the store has a 21-year-or-older policy, is that age discrimination?
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21+ is something the stores can do themselves. Same with ammunition sales. And it can’t be shouted down by dumb shits making the same shall not be infringed argument as they are private businesses.
But I’m in total agreement that a shitload of reforms need to be made. “Common sense legislation” goes both ways.
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Costco as a company may have some lefty liberal corporate values but at least in my experience with the one in my particular corner of Wisconsin, all the usual MURRICA stereotypes are well represented among the customer base. I’m always reminded of this when I finish checking out and see the heffalumps grazing on pizza and hot dogs at the snack bar.
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Some Home Depots have an 18+ rule for spray paint and blades. That isn’t even covered by a law that I can recall.
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True, it’d be cool if more stores started taking initiatives like Dicks did, or like you are suggesting with the 21+. It might help to open the door to more meaningful change.
Common sense is something I’d like to see indeed.
One thing I’m vehemently against is arming teachers. The teachers I know would be mortified to have a gun in their home, let alone to carry one into their classroom, it’s nonsense to expect that of them. They don’t get paid enough, by a longshot, I bet they’ll even make the weapons training mandatory, but also something they have to pay for out of their own pocket, like anything else teachers need. AKLHGOIHGROIJERSPOJDSJDBV!!!!!
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Arming teachers is one of the most colossally stupid ideas I’ve seen in a long time.
You do not take a job that requires a mindset for fostering child development only to be required to also have the mental fortitude to kill somebody if need be.
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I’ve had to pass a minimum of a federal background check to buy all of my guns... It’s far from a free-for-all in the US.
California just has crazy local gun laws that make it unusually complicated to own them.
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I thought ageism was generally okay, as long as you’re not discriminating against old people with money. /s
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Just laziness, or rush to press.
“We will no longer sell assault-style rifles, also referred to as modern sporting rifles. We had already removed them from all DICK’S stores after the Sandy Hook massacre , but we will now remove them from sale at all 35 Field & Stream stores.”
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There are a lot of people who probably shouldn’t own a firearm, but who could pass a federal background check, unfortunately. Free-for-all is a little exeptional, I admit, but it’s super easy to get one or many guns in most states.
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A friend of mine from college went into the Army for a few years after college, and now he’s a teacher. And he’s completely against having a gun in his classroom.
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Interesting — my comment was less about politics and more about image. Our sole Costco (in a metro area of 1.3 million) stands alone amid 5 or 6 competing Sam’s Clubs as the place for the trendy people to go. The parking lot is filled with Mercedes SUVs and yoga pants. I can’t really explain it because the store itself isn’t fancy, it just somehow became “the cool place to save money on three tons of Fruit Loops.”
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Yeah, it’s generally okay. You can generally have a private policy more restrictive than the law (so long as it doesn’t discriminate against a protected class - i.e. gender, race, orientation), but not less (i.e. can’t allow 16 y.o. to purchase).
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Because Sam’s = Big Walmart, and Walmart /= cool.
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Idk if black rifles were a big seller for them in the first place. I would go to a real gunshop instead. Dicks is just good for ammo.
Considering my favorite local nfa is in some dudes basement, I think this won’t have a big effect. Just covering their asses.
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And you can’t hang out at Amazon. Well, maybe in front of an Amazon locker...
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Oh, we tend to get all kinds at Costco although it’s a generally affluent-ish crowd. I don’t know who the hell goes to Sam’s because I’ve never been. The closest Sam’s was opposite a Walmart which I go to on occasion. But it was one of the stores Walmart stealthily shut down right after announcing those Trump tax cut bonuses.
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I don’t really know who goes to warehouse clubs at all. My local grocery stores tend to be more competitive (if you wait for sales and shop strategically). I swear shopping in bulk has become a status thing, when it used to be simple economics for the lower and middle classes.
Plus the bonus that the boxes and bottles purchased from the grocery store actually fit in my home!
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It’s just my wife and I in my house and we don’t buy all that much at Costco. We don’t even pay for the membership, my mom added me on hers years ago. Things I buy there include:
Coffee
Olive oil
Dish & laundry detergent
Puppy training pads that the oldest of our 3 cats pees on
Occasional healthy-ish bulk snack/frozen foods
Premium gas since it’s way cheaper there
That’s about it.
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If it’s black and polymerized it’s a crime to own.
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I didn’t even know Dick’s sold ANY guns... but then again there was only one around here and it closed up because it was in the hood and was always getting robbed.
‘Round here we go to Cabela’s for our blam blams.
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From the articles I’ve read it’s all semi auto rifles.
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Ah so cynical PR stunt, gotcha.
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Company statement says “assault style rifles” so looks like they’ll still sell mini 14's with semi grip stock but stop selling mini 14's with the scary pistol grip.
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You know what the difference between a flash surpressor and muzzle break is? The name...
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What I wonder is who buys guns from Walmart and Dicks? Walmart has decently inexpensive ammo usually but that’s about it.
If I want an AR-15 i’m going to a local gun shop, not Dicks or Walmart lol. I don’t know anyone whose bought a gun there unless they were just hunters getting a hunting gun.
It’s also ridiculous that this AWB is being discussed again. Columbine happened under the AWB with legal to buy nuder AWB guns. I have a AWB era FAL. It’s just a regular semi auto FAL but without a muzzle device. That law was useless and all it did was increase NRA membership and make people skeptical of gun laws.
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glad to hear it.
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This is moving more quickly than I expected:
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That’s fine with me.