Lamoureux with a Datsukian deke

"TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts." (thebloody)
02/22/2018 at 07:18 • Filed to: hockeylopnik

To win the gold for team USA.

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DISCUSSION (38)

pip bip - choose Corrour > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
02/22/2018 at 07:29

poor Canada

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > pip bip - choose Corrour
02/22/2018 at 08:30

Kinja'd!!!

Wacko > pip bip - choose Corrour
02/22/2018 at 08:34

looks at Canada’s medal count, nope, we ok.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
02/22/2018 at 09:10

id say its more patrick kane like

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Wacko
02/22/2018 at 09:14

i would argue if canada doesnt take a gold in mens hockey the entire country will riot like its 2011 Vancouver no matter how many medals they end up taking.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
02/22/2018 at 09:18

No such thing as “Kanian like” move.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
02/22/2018 at 09:19

Well done USA. Congrats.

Can I just say though, WHY THE HELL is there a shootout in the medal games. It’s total horseshit. It’s one thing the NHL gets right, removing the shootout in the playoffs... though I’d rather get rid of it altogether. Might as well flip a damn coin in a best-of-seven tosses. Take this soccer out of my hockey. And out of my soccer, preferably.

Don’t take this as “butthurt Canadian”, either. I’ve brought it up numerous times in my “Leafs win” post this year, and my opinion has always been KILL IT. I’ve been cheering the winning side, I’ve been cheering the losing side, at both NHL and international levels. It softens the defeat a little because they weren’t playing hockey when they lost. Less crushing... but waaaay more irritating. At the same time it never fails to take some of the satisfaction out of a victory. KILL IT. What, you’re going to burn out the players? Guess what, it’s the last game regardless. LET THEM LEAVE IT ALL ON THE ICE.

If we’re honest USA probably would have won anyway... that’s fine, we’ve had our run... BUT DAMMIT THE SHOOTOUT. KILL THE SHOOTOUT.

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Rant out, enjoy your medals—they’ll be comin’ for you in China ;)

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
02/22/2018 at 09:22

oh my sweet summer child. shes got the best hands of any american second to patrick kane, id call it kane like

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
02/22/2018 at 09:23

No, because we never expected it. If NHLers went and we didn’t get gold... maybe.

While I thought (still do) there was a chance they could win it all, getting to the medal round is already as much as I was willing to expect. Everything else is gravy. On fries and cheese curds. And if they do take gold, you can throw bacon and maple syrup on there too.

Plus, please don’t equate us as a nation with Canucks fans— 2011 could be the only time most of Canada was cheering for the American team ;)

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
02/22/2018 at 09:32

This is a very accurate statement.

fintail > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
02/22/2018 at 10:03

I’m more amused by the curling result.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
02/22/2018 at 10:04

shootouts have been part of the olympics and the IIHF since at least 1992 if not longer. theyve never done golden goal for as long as i can remember. maybe if the NHL was running the show youd have golden goal in medal games but that wont happen either

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
02/22/2018 at 10:20

Given that it’s probably one of the greatest goals in Olympic Hockey history and Pasha having some of the best hands in hockey history, it’s more fitting to say it’s Datsyukian like.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
02/22/2018 at 10:22

oh and the fact that team usa curling beat team canada in the semifinals and will go on to play for gold im gonna double down on canada riots

https://deadspin.com/usa-humiliates-vile-canadians-on-ice-again-1823223869

Shift24 > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
02/22/2018 at 10:27

I think Mayweather would dispute that

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/hockey/chicago-blackhawks-star-patrick-kane-arrested-fight-cab-driver-article-1.398207

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
02/22/2018 at 10:28

If you’re talking “golden goal” as in sudden death overtime, that’s EXACTLY what they do. Have to go through that to get to the shootout.

I don’t care how long they’ve done it, the shootout is hot garbage. Again I’m not complaining about this instance—first off, that happens to be the way it’s done and the USA took it, second as I said already I think the USA would probably have won anyway—I just hate the shootout, as a concept, unconditionally.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
02/22/2018 at 10:29

Agreed, the shootout is terrible but I don’t see it going away in IIHF games anytime soon.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
02/22/2018 at 10:31

Now that... you could be right. It won’t be me rioting, I don’t really give a rip about curling personally besides “oh cool a medal for my country” every 4 years... but in reality it’s at least as popular as hockey iirc.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
02/22/2018 at 10:37

Neither do I but I reserve the right to bitch about it, win or lose. That goes for the NHL too. I despise it.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
02/22/2018 at 10:48

right i understand they already do sudden death before they go to the shootout but i more meant you wont ever see that sudden death go until someone scores in an IIHF tournament thats just the way IIHF does it. personally i like them, and especially with the olympics always being a time crunch it makes sense.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
02/22/2018 at 10:49

so during the regular season would you rather bring back ties? because thats a worse idea than shootouts. and if youre advocating for sudden death going until the next person scores in the regular season youre a sadist. shootouts make sense

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
02/22/2018 at 10:52

not american, not fitting. if ANYTHING you could say its Oshie like due to the olympic stakes, but her hands in general are american hands that are just as good as kanes. therefore they are “kanian”

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Shift24
02/22/2018 at 10:53

im not going to specify hockey when the two people im talking about play the same sport

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
02/22/2018 at 11:05

Personally, yes. Ties make more sense than a shootout. And it doesn’t have to go on forever, I’d just double the 3v3 time to 10 minutes... there’s almost certain to be a goal. At the end of that, guess what? The teams happen to be evenly matched. They tie. Throwing that up in the air for the sake of awarding an extra point that you might as well flip a coin for is idiotic imo.

Come playoffs it goes out the window for a reason—it’s bullshit. And especially in a medal game... you’re afraid of burning them out? It’s the last game, best endurance wins if nothing else instead of a totally random event like the shootout. Seriously. Look up the shootout stats by year, you’re telling me some teams all of a sudden got really good in the shootout and then decided that was boring and went back to being terrible? No. Some teams make the playoffs on the strength of their shootout record and get bounced immediately, others should really be in the playoffs and don’t make it because they had terrible shootout luck that year. Take away that extra point if you’re not going to award it based on team play.

Shift24 > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
02/22/2018 at 11:07

Kinja'd!!!

Best hands can be a boxing/fighting term and Kane beat up a cabbie... i.e. he fought some one.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
02/22/2018 at 11:13

The gold (and bronze) medal game isn’t under any more crunch than playoff hockey. It’s the last game, so the players are done afterwards. The broadcasters are there to cover hockey, because that’s what they know—they aren’t going to buzz off and cover luge. Competition for airtime—happens anyway. And clearly they don’t have any issue with merging events in one broadcast because they already do that.

Play hockey. You want to watch a shootout, make it a separate olympic event.

I get that they always have done it that way. Doesn’t make it less stupid. Imagine the world series is tied after 9 innings, so they play a 10th and then have a home run competition. Idiotic. It sucks in soccer, it sucks in the NHL, it sucks in IIHF play and it especially sucks in the finals.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
02/22/2018 at 11:27

ties do not make more sense, a game needs to have a winner and loser. id be all for extending 3 on 3 overtime but there still needs to be a winner and loser, the shootout accomplishes that.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
02/22/2018 at 11:35

i highly doubt the players would be in favor of a gold medal game potentially going into triple over-time and having to play essentially two games back to back. from a fan perspective sure it might make more sense but its not about the fans. its about the players on the ice and im sure those women are just as happy to have won in a shootout than play an extra 40 minutes to come to the same result.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
02/22/2018 at 11:41

There only “needs” to be a winner and loser in the playoffs. Continuous 3v3 or tie.

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Here’s a random idea I just had. Like LITERALLY right now. Modified shootout. Two attackers against a defender and a goalie. Blue line is in play, puck has to be frozen or cleared—icing the puck is allowed. In other words, bring in some actual hockey plays instead of just handing out breakaways.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
02/22/2018 at 11:42

And I think you are very, very wrong.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Shift24
02/22/2018 at 11:44

I am so saving that.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
02/22/2018 at 11:45

no every game needs a winner and loser, if it were up to me id also take away the point for just getting to overtime. hell i think soccer should move to shootouts in the regular season to determine each matches winner. breakaways are a hockey play, a small part of the game sure but a part of it none the less and the shootout makes an easy determination of a game after 65 minutes. to say it makes it not about the team is just dumb

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
02/22/2018 at 11:51

Nope. All the regular season is for is to establish who is better and should be in the playoffs. The shootout is not reflective of that.

As far as the extra point goes, the extra shootout point is the “winner” point, so don’t take that away. The OT point is the loser point... meh. Take it. Whatever. Personally I’d rather go to a 3-point system: Points 3/0 for a regulation win, 2/1 for OT and the shootout... doesn’t exist. 1/1.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
02/22/2018 at 11:57

right the regular season is to determine the best teams, ties do not determine anything. therefore the shootout does reflect who is the best team, whether its whoses got the best goalie 1v1 or whoses got the best scorers. either way it at least determines an outcome. ties are just yup you cant beat us we cant beat you lets go home

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
02/22/2018 at 12:23

Ties determine that the teams were, as teams, even and therefore deserve a point each. Shootouts determine that one team got lucky.

Team A and Team B are playing a hockey game. Team B is getting completely shelled, and not with low-quality point shots either. Shots at the end of 65 are 48-22 for Team A. Most of Team B’s shots came from the perimeter.

Who’s the better team? Team A lost in the shootout btw.

The shootout is a 1v1 contest played on a chewed-up surface with uneven conditions between the teams (because the ice conditions are not the same at both nets), which can and does affect the motions of the puck for better or for worse. The goalie could read the shooter perfectly (or the shooter could screw up monumentally) only to have a bump in the ice beat them, the shooter could have the goalie completely beat only to see the puck jump off course. TOTALLY RANDOM. All to decide a TEAM game.

Here is my bare minimum concession to the shootout. If it MUST be the way it is done, AT LEAST fix the ice up properly. They do a quick scrape down the middle—not good enough. Still all too often you see the shooter lost the puck (or score) completely because of ice conditions.

It should be said my team is actually good at the shootout this year. Still shit.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
02/22/2018 at 12:57

lol my team can barely make it through OT without taking a L let alone making it to a shootout. but im still and forever will be in favor of the shootout because it leads to a winner and a loser. and thats whats important

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
02/22/2018 at 13:02

I think the only logical progression from here is to agree to disagree. Have a good day

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
02/22/2018 at 13:04

i can live with that