"sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg) 02/15/2018 at 15:56 • Filed to: None

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WilliamsSW > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 02/15/2018 at 16:01

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FWD for the win!

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 02/15/2018 at 16:03

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Party-vi > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 02/15/2018 at 16:08

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Mmmmm coal power.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Party-vi 02/15/2018 at 16:10

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ITS CLEAN. AND USEFUL. RIGHT?

nah. It’s like VW “clean” Diesel. And these cars were super inefficient. It is a fun trivia game to play with new visitors.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 02/15/2018 at 16:12

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I was idly curious just now if they used a modern Rzeppa-style CV like the Ruxton and the Cord, since at the time the relevant patents, etc. still belonged to IIRC Ford. Nope. Double Cardan with a bulky slip-spline.

Double cardans are CV, they’re just angle-limited and require secondary slip - so presumably a TA runs pretty smoothly even if you can’t steer that well.

For the record, the Rzeppas in the Ruxton are pretty big. Huge, even, with protective chrome covers.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 02/15/2018 at 16:57

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There is one of these in my town, has a drip pan under the motor.

Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 02/15/2018 at 17:17

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I had one years ago, and yes the angle is limited. Only 2 turns lock to lock, but the lock was so bad you’d struggle to do a U turn across a 4 lane road.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen 02/15/2018 at 17:26

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I just looked it up - purportedly 45.3 ft. I have a 19ft long Lincoln that has a turning circle of 42.5, and wall to wall circle of that much. So yes, kind of atrocious.

Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 02/15/2018 at 17:40

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Mine was a ‘53, and the only areas (apart from the appearance) where it felt technologically obsolete for a pre-70s car were the use of UJs instead of CVs, and the prevalence of brass bushes with grease nipples instead of sealed or flexible couplings. Which is pretty impressive for a car that was “pre-70s” by 40-odd years.

AuthiCooper1300 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 02/15/2018 at 18:16

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Well, pretty smoothly... perhaps.

Spanish-built Minis did not have Rzeppa joints, but double cardans, as many a US-serviceman who imported a Spanish Mini Stateside was later to find out to their utter puzzlement.

Smooth they ain’t, at least when compared with a Rzeppa-fitted Mini.

Also it was “advisable” to align the cardans with the driveshaft inner rubber couplings or even more vibration would result.

AuthiCooper1300 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 02/15/2018 at 18:20

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Weren’t Rzeppa joints used in the conning towers of submarines? That is what they always mention in Mini literature.

Regarding the Traction and their cardans, I read years ago that an easy and worthwhile modification is to replace them with early Range Rover CVs. Don’t know how much you’d have to modify the relevant parts though.