What should I do, Oppo?

Kinja'd!!! "Spanfeller is a twat" (theaspiringengineer)
02/13/2018 at 23:36 • Filed to: None

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I downloaded Forza 7, but it doesn’t fit, should I go The Hard Way that will work or The Easy Way that might not?

Forza doesn’t fit on my 500gb mac because the windows partition is 8gb short.
I thought it would work on my 5 year old external drive, but it’s clearly not fast enough for Forza, so it’s sitting there, in a 1TB drive.

Note; My experience with file management is naught.


Easy Way:
I make a third partition on my mac’s SSD, format it so that it can hold the game, and access the game through it.

Hard way:
I save all of the windows files in the external drive, delete the partition, make a new, larger partition, and somehow re-install windows without calling tech support.




DISCUSSION (29)


Kinja'd!!! C62030 > Spanfeller is a twat
02/13/2018 at 23:39

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I’d just put it on the cheapest new hard drive you can find. An 80GB one will hold it handily and they’re like $17 on Amazon.


Kinja'd!!! Spanfeller is a twat > C62030
02/13/2018 at 23:41

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Forza weights 96.54gb.


But if I were to go the external way, should I try to get an SSD?
The old disk is by no means slow, it runs on thunderbolt... and it still can’t do it!


Kinja'd!!! atfsgeoff > Spanfeller is a twat
02/13/2018 at 23:44

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Holy hell, I didn’t even know forza 7 was a windows title.

Now if only I had a windows rig built in the past decade :(


Kinja'd!!! Nibbles > Spanfeller is a twat
02/13/2018 at 23:47

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It’s been a while, but you should be able to shrink your MacOS partition, boot into Windows and, using compmgmt.msc, attach the freed space to the butt end Windows partition and increase size on the fly

This worked with 2008R2 (Windows 7) and still works on 2012.

Otherwise: https://discussions.apple.com/message/24377993#24377993


Kinja'd!!! TheTurbochargedSquirrel > Spanfeller is a twat
02/13/2018 at 23:50

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I wouldn’t waste your time. My XPS 15 with an i7 6700hq and a GTX960m can’t even pull a constant 30fps at 1080p. It is going to be unplayable on your Mac.


Kinja'd!!! Spanfeller is a twat > Nibbles
02/13/2018 at 23:51

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I know that in older version of bootcamp I could increase the windows partition to my liking... but this one is so watered down it even bores me.

Also, disk utility is super watered down too, I can’t do jack shit!


Kinja'd!!! Spanfeller is a twat > TheTurbochargedSquirrel
02/13/2018 at 23:53

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Shucks, can you edit the performance settings?

My xbox in another city and I can’t be bothered going to pick it up....


Kinja'd!!! Nibbles > Spanfeller is a twat
02/13/2018 at 23:55

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Ugh.

UGH.

I haven’t played with Mac since Lion I think?


Kinja'd!!! Spanfeller is a twat > Nibbles
02/13/2018 at 23:58

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I can’t blame you, last time I fiddled with partitions Macs still ran on snow leopard.



Kinja'd!!! C62030 > Spanfeller is a twat
02/13/2018 at 23:59

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Shoot, that’s a lot more than Horizon 3. I can run that and the FM7 demo perfectly fine off a $50 Western Digital HDD, so I would think it’s more the age of yours than the speed that’s the limiting factor. Unless you’re copying lots of files where raw transfer speed is the concern, an SSD is probably overkill.


Kinja'd!!! Spanfeller is a twat > C62030
02/14/2018 at 00:02

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I’ll probably end up shelling out for an external drive...



Kinja'd!!! Patrick Nichols > Spanfeller is a twat
02/14/2018 at 00:21

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You can in horizon 3 so I’d imagine it’s the same in 7. Honestly the mid level graphics settings still look good to me and the act of playing is more fun to me than the stunning graphics.

I’d go with the second partition idea if you don’t need the space on macOS. Functionally should be the same as running off a second internal drive. If you have the money and no need for the disk drive if there is one, there are kits to drop in another drive internally in its place too.


Kinja'd!!! Spanfeller is a twat > Patrick Nichols
02/14/2018 at 00:27

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Its a laptop.

But I do have big plans for this 27" shell with a corrupted (SMART gone to shit) hard drive

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Craziest thought? Water cooling from the outside of the shell.


Kinja'd!!! Spanfeller is a twat > C62030
02/14/2018 at 00:30

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What format does the hard drive have?


Kinja'd!!! Patrick Nichols > Spanfeller is a twat
02/14/2018 at 00:37

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Before I had my pc built I got I was planning on putting a 4tb hdd where the optical drive is in my 13" 2011 mbp. You can see how the kits work here:

https://9to5mac.com/community/install-a-2nd-hddssd-by-replacing-the-optical-drive-upgrade-your-old-macbook-pro/


Kinja'd!!! C62030 > Spanfeller is a twat
02/14/2018 at 00:40

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I only use it with Windows, so I believe it’s NTFS.


Kinja'd!!! Spanfeller is a twat > Patrick Nichols
02/14/2018 at 00:40

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Could that work on the Imac?

My mbp is the one without optical drive


Kinja'd!!! Spanfeller is a twat > C62030
02/14/2018 at 00:42

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Hmm, disk utility won’t let me make ntfs... Next best is ExFAT i think...


Kinja'd!!! Patrick Nichols > Spanfeller is a twat
02/14/2018 at 00:50

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I would imagine as long as the caddy matches the optical drive brackets. They both should use the same type of ports similar to pc builds where you have either sata or PCIe ports available on the motherboard. The ports are usually the bottleneck for the fastest external drives, though I’m not sure how thunderbolt or USB c compares.


Kinja'd!!! Spanfeller is a twat > Patrick Nichols
02/14/2018 at 00:56

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Nice...


Kinja'd!!! Shift24 > Spanfeller is a twat
02/14/2018 at 01:42

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Get a refund for 7 and just play 6. I got the game free on Xbone and I still want my money back


Kinja'd!!! Spanfeller is a twat > Shift24
02/14/2018 at 06:19

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I do believe it said all sales are final


Kinja'd!!! TheTurbochargedSquirrel > Spanfeller is a twat
02/14/2018 at 07:22

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Unplayable on lowest settings and looking like total ass for me.


Kinja'd!!! MINIGTI > Spanfeller is a twat
02/14/2018 at 08:17

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Should be able to resize partitions in disk utility. Sounds scary but I’ve done it many times without trouble.


Kinja'd!!! Spanfeller is a twat > MINIGTI
02/14/2018 at 08:19

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It was a pain in the ass and Disk Utility refused for a few hours.

But many restarts and tries later, I have a 150GB ExFAT partition between the Windows partition and Mac partition.


Kinja'd!!! Spanfeller is a twat > Nibbles
02/14/2018 at 17:50

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My experience thus far

Win10: 80GB
OSX:25GB


Win10: “You cannot access this file because it’s protected”
OSX: “Open this file using Finder?”

Win10: “You cannot delete this file because you lack permissions”
OSX: “Fuck man, do whatever you want, do you want to delete this OS and re-install it using the BIOS?, Fuck yeah bitch, try me out!”

I guess what apple did was add simplicity....


Kinja'd!!! MINIGTI > Spanfeller is a twat
02/14/2018 at 23:19

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Why not just adjust it to grow the windows partition and shrink the HFS. No need to add a third


Kinja'd!!! Spanfeller is a twat > MINIGTI
02/14/2018 at 23:24

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Because of reasons beyond me OSX and Windows use different sorting schemes, while windows can neither read or write on apple files, apple can read windows files.

Disk utility is the most basic software any mac comes with (almost like BIOS levels) meaning that it’s the one to use in order to get nicely made, non corrupt partitions, however, since the apple file system cannot write on NTFS Disk Utility cannot resize a Windows partition, it can merely create it or destroy it.


Kinja'd!!! MINIGTI > Spanfeller is a twat
02/15/2018 at 07:31

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I see, I always forget about that problem, it didn’t occur to me that would apply to resizing partitions as well. Sounds like you did the right thing.