Looking at some things (Change of heart)

"Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness" (long-voyager-2nd-edition) 12/28/2018 at 10:10 • Filed to: car shopping with long-voyager

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Been thinking on a new car again. Thinking a Charger would fit our needs well.

https://www.portagemotors.com/inventory/details/48833588

https://www.carsoup.com/details/Used/Dodge/Charger/Sedan/2017/2C3CDXHG3HH583526-3806?z=53955&srp_link=%2Ffor-sale%2FDodge%2FCharger%2FPoynette-WI-53955%3FcurrentPage%3D1%26p%3Dtrue%26pt%3D20000%26r%3D100%26resultsPerPage%3D30%26sorting%3Ddistance%2520asc%26ss%3Dactive

https://www.carsoup.com/details/Used/Dodge/Charger/Sedan/2016/2C3CDXBG1GH173556-8056?z=53955&srp_link=%2Ffor-sale%2FDodge%2FCharger%2FPoynette-WI-53955%3FcurrentPage%3D1%26p%3Dtrue%26pt%3D20000%26r%3D100%26resultsPerPage%3D30%26sorting%3Ddistance%2520asc%26ss%3Dactive

A few I’ve found so far.

Links in reply

Change of Heart:

After talking with the wife last night and whooping on both an EB Mustang and EB F150 in the car, we/I’ve decided that getting rid of the old girl just isn’t in the cards. It’s way too much fun, far too cheap/easy to keep on the road, and we don’t have any payments to take down our budget.

The wife also brought up the fact that with the extra money we have from not making a car payment, I have the option of having work done by someone else when I’m not in the mood to do it myself.

So, my current stable will be my stable for a long while.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 12/27/2018 at 10:10

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https://www.portagemotors.com/inventory/details/48833588

https://www.carsoup.com/details/Used/Dodge/Charger/Sedan/2017/2C3CDXHG3HH583526-3806?z=53955&srp_link=%2Ffor-sale%2FDodge%2FCharger%2FPoynette-WI-53955%3FcurrentPage%3D1%26p%3Dtrue%26pt%3D20000%26r%3D100%26resultsPerPage%3D30%26sorting%3Ddistance%2520asc%26ss%3Dactive

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https://www.carsoup.com/details/Used/Dodge/Charger/Sedan/2016/2C3CDXBG1GH173556-8056?z=53955&srp_link=%2Ffor-sale%2FDodge%2FCharger%2FPoynette-WI-53955%3FcurrentPage%3D1%26p%3Dtrue%26pt%3D20000%26r%3D100%26resultsPerPage%3D30%26sorting%3Ddistance%2520asc%26ss%3Dactive

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 12/27/2018 at 10:15

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We all know you only want a Charger so that you can one day harvest the drivetrain for your van.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 12/27/2018 at 10:20

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Na, be replacing the car which I will likely be giving to my nephew who’s about to get his license.

Wobbles the Mind > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 12/27/2018 at 10:22

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What are your needs? Chargers and 300s are good.

nerd_racing > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 12/27/2018 at 10:24

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How about a magnum?  More hauling space.  

boredalways > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 12/27/2018 at 10:26

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Get  one with the 8sp ZF and Uconnect.  Where's the linky for the drab green one?  Nice color.

I own dead car brands only > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 12/27/2018 at 10:33

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Get one with a pentastar. I absolutely love mine in my Durango. Easily one of the best engines in my opinion. Ive considered trading in my Durango for a 300 or a charger AWD. 

Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 12/27/2018 at 10:44

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There is a Chicago dealer that has 300s priced way below MSRP; not sure how legit it is but might be worthwhile to compare against the charger

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/new/searchresults.action?sourceContext=untrackedExternal_false_0&newSearchFromOverviewPage=true&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=c27055&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity2=&zip=53201&distance=200&searchChanged=true&showNegotiable=true&modelChanged=undefined&filtersModified=true&sortType=PRICE&sortDirection=ASC#listing=218143443  

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 12/27/2018 at 10:46

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Mmmm F8 Green. Best color for a non R/T mopar 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > I own dead car brands only 12/27/2018 at 10:52

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If my Slant6 ever crapped out, I’d swap in a Pentastar.  I think it is the Slant6's modern successor 

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 12/27/2018 at 11:01

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The 2015+ models should be considerably more reliable. Let me go home and pull up the consumer reports survey results.

I am thinking of test driving a 5.7/ 6.4 charger sometime this week.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 12/27/2018 at 11:57

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The first one is about 3 blocks from work, so I’m planning on checking it out tomorrow after work.

Honestly if I get it with low enough miles, I’m not worried about reliability with the way I maintain my vehicles.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 12/27/2018 at 11:59

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I love F8 Green. I’m very partial to Plum Crazy though, it’s a close tie.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle 12/27/2018 at 12:00

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Oh wow, that’d definitely be worth checking out as well.

Thanks!

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 12/27/2018 at 12:02

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4.0L V6 would be my candidate for modern Slant6 successor.

Pentastar lacks torque down low, the 4.0L in the vans made them quicker than the Pentastar despite being short 40 hp.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > I own dead car brands only 12/27/2018 at 12:03

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Pentastar is definitely the engine we’ll be going for. Being a daily I don’t want the mileage hit of the V8, plus the Penta is plenty fun when paired with the 8 speed.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > boredalways 12/27/2018 at 12:05

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Random pic, if I found an F8 Green one cheap it’d be in the driveway already. ;)

I want the 8 speed, I want one without “connectivity” though. In case you haven’t noticed, I can’t stand screens in cars.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > nerd_racing 12/27/2018 at 12:06

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Too expensive with too many miles.

Besides, it’s not actually more hauling space “safely” unless you tie everything down, and I have the van for hauling big stuff.

An enclosed trunk is far more useful for us.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > Wobbles the Mind 12/27/2018 at 12:08

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Seating for 5-6, big enough to carry a family, good economy for daily use, good sized trunk ( no we don’t want a wagon/hatch ), fun.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 12/27/2018 at 12:10

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Sharing just in case you want to know where owners have reported problems over the years. Black double arrow is good, white down double arrow is bad. Everything else in between. I have found the surveys themselves to be reliable crosss checking with forums on common problems, especially if is a mass produced vehicle. Consider a Chrysler 300 as well.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 12/27/2018 at 12:18

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I love Plum Crazy as well but I fell it to have that color you need a big rumbley V8 to back it up.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 12/27/2018 at 12:21

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I love how the rating changes between the 300 and the Charger. How is one more reliable than the other, they’re the same car?

Either way, from what I’m seeing both are quite reliable driveline- wise and suspension- wise, which would be my main concerns with a new/newer car.

I will definitely consider the 300 as well in my search, thanks for sharing this!

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 12/27/2018 at 12:22

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False:

A loud/mean V6 wears it proudly as well.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 12/27/2018 at 12:28

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I would possibly suspect the 6.4 and the Hellcat variants are less reliable than the 3.6 and 5.7 shared with chyrsler? Also people are more lilely to mod a Charger than a 300 could lead to more issues? Although CR users dont come across as the modding crowd.   Also it’s based on owners’ responses so higher sales on charger vs 300 means more chances of people facing issues? It’s not averaged out by problems per 1000 vehicles or other methodology. I would always cross check with the forums. Seems infotainment/ electronics/ electrical problems are a bigger concern. 

nerd_racing > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 12/27/2018 at 12:52

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Logic and reason... hrmph.  That wagon profile tho! 

ranwhenparked > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 12/27/2018 at 13:18

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I owned a 2016 Challenger for awhile, put over 60,000 miles on it in two years. Its essentially a two door Charger, I figure the ownership experience is the same.

I would say that they are excellent vehicles, the only issue I had was the driver’s side front wheel bearing got noisy and needed to be replaced, but that was done under warranty.

Pluses are an honest 30mpg highway with the Pentastar and easily high 20s average, gigantic trunk, very smooth ride, traditional “Big American Car” thickly padded seats and sound deadening, and reasonable performance even from the 6.

Negatives, really not many. I can’t account for how well they would hold up long term, but there doesn’t seem to be anything really egregious that affects them with age. Obviously, the finish quality isn’t what you’d get from a Toyota, but they’re fine from a reliability standpoint and obviously have lots of other good virtues. 

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > nerd_racing 12/27/2018 at 16:02

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Eh, wagons don’t really trip my trigger unless you’re talking old wagons.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > ranwhenparked 12/27/2018 at 16:03

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This is the kind of real life experience I hoped to hear.

Thanks for the input.

random001 > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 12/28/2018 at 10:12

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I don’t even know what cars you have anymore....

jimz > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 12/28/2018 at 10:26

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yeah, as creaky as my Ranger is getting with advancing miles, it was paid off years ago.  and still doesn’t cost me much to keep running; the wheel bearing was the only unexpected repair over about the past year.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > jimz 12/28/2018 at 12:09

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As it stands now, we’ve stuck around $800 in the car including buying it, but it has a completely redone driveline, all new suspension/brakes, and fresh paint, so I really can’t complain. The van has around $2k over the last 5 yrs, but that’s the same deal, everything has been gone through driveline/suspension/brakes, so realistically at this point, it’s just random stuff that needs replacing.