This is not worth $100,000

"Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras" (jegoingout)
12/17/2018 at 10:46 • Filed to: None

Aren’t your six figure flag ship cars suppose to be striking and unique? Think of what you can buy for $ 100,000+ that’s a sedan, how far down that list is a Lincoln Conti with suicide doors?

DISCUSSION (32)

bob and john > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/17/2018 at 10:51

counter point, what other car can you buy with suicide doors...a Rolls? thats 300K. not 100K.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > bob and john
12/17/2018 at 10:52

Suicide doors don’t add value, they just add “look at me” my doors are different.

Textured Soy Protein > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/17/2018 at 10:54

The price is a reach, like the price of the Continental in general, but I don’t care, the suicide doors are dope as fuck.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/17/2018 at 10:55

Yeah, the second you start cross shopping at that price point, nope. Audi S8, BMW M5, Merc S-Class. This is a $65k car at best, the only buyers it might convert are Cadillac XTS owners, but that’s a much cheaper car.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Textured Soy Protein
12/17/2018 at 10:59

Yeah, they should’ve been standard from the get-go and at the base model price point.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
12/17/2018 at 11:04

I’d say 70k is all of it, the idea if cross shopping this with actual flagship sedans is gross

CB > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/17/2018 at 11:10

“Value" is in the eyes of the beholder. To someone, this is awesome and a bargain. To someone else, they think spending any money on a whale penis leather interior is a good price. Different strokes for different folks.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/17/2018 at 11:16

Yeah, it’s a neat car in a way, but at the end of the day it’s still basically a LWB Fusion.

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/17/2018 at 11:19

This is a mix of Reserve (3.0/AWD) and Black Edition (the wheels.) Makes it a $30k+ premium over the non-suicide doors.

Yeah, Contis got real fucking expensive. $70k for a Reserve 3.0/AWD the second you tick an option box.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
12/17/2018 at 11:20

I would never pay that for these cars..especially when you look at resale value

Milky > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/17/2018 at 11:22

They only need to sell 80, 40 of those will probably go to Ford execs too.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > Milky
12/17/2018 at 11:22

I read the production cap comes off after 2020 though

The Ghost of Oppo > CB
12/17/2018 at 11:23

Tl ;dr , all I saw was “ Spending money on whale penis is good”

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/17/2018 at 11:24

But i t’s only depreciated 37 % in the first 2 years!

Kinja'd!!!

Chuckles > The Ghost of Oppo
12/17/2018 at 11:34

“ Something something stroking a whale penis.”

Chuckles > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/17/2018 at 11:38

Is any car worth six figures? Depends on who you ask.

I had a suicide door once on a car that only cost 4 figures.

Kinja'd!!!

Chuckles > bob and john
12/17/2018 at 11:39

Find a 90s Saturn? Should only cost pocket change at this point.

Kinja'd!!!

Milky > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/17/2018 at 11:39

Surprised there will even be a Conti in 2020.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Chuckles
12/17/2018 at 11:42

Hey now, they built the Ion well into the 2000’s. Also, the RX8.

Chuckles > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
12/17/2018 at 11:46

I owned two pre-Ion Saturns, so I'm partial to them over the later stuff. I had a 96 SL2 sedan and a 98 SC2 coupe with the suicide door. Both were great little cars.

BigBlock440 > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/17/2018 at 11:54

Suicide doors don’t add value, they ju st add “look at me”

Is that not the entirety of the value of a luxury car?

Tristan > Milky
12/17/2018 at 12:07

Surprised there will even be a Lincoln in 2020.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/17/2018 at 12:19

I don’t feel any new vehicle is worth what it sells for so I’ll just leave my judgement out.

Chariotoflove > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/17/2018 at 12:27

This car is worth much more to Lincoln in image and cachet. No one thinks this is going to be a profitable car. It’s the bold move Lincoln needs to keep people talking about it, to keep it relevant. This car is gorgeous and posh and American. All it needs to do is sell to enough fish people who care about that. If it helps sell more Navigators and MKTs, then it’s done its job.

Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
12/17/2018 at 12:42

As a car to be driven around in, I actually would argue this could be a great car and a unique statement in a sea of the usual suspects.

Take the S8 for example, I’d consider that more of a drivers car. Even an A8L, given they have a 4.0 V8T.

However, for those that aren’t concerned with that sort of performance, the 3.0 400hp V6 will be perfectly adequate. Someone shopping this purely from the standpoint of having a comfortable back seat, I bet the Lincoln is a great choice.

arl > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/17/2018 at 12:42

I like the doors.

But those wheels just look like rental-spec wheels off of any sedan being sold in America - silver face with black painted insides. Slab-sided and boring as hell.

But I do like the doors.

Milky > Tristan
12/17/2018 at 12:44

Damn bruh, savage.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs
12/17/2018 at 14:56

Except that it’s meh looking, and for the kind of money they’re asking you can do so much better in every statistic. If you want a big comfy sedan then Lexus and Mercedes are such better options. Any BMW or Audi is probably screwed together better and a way better performer. This thing is all show and no go. Just like the old Hyundai Equus, or even the newer big Genesis’s, nobody is cross shopping a gimmicky Lincoln with an actual luxury car.

Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
12/17/2018 at 15:12

I imagine the Lincoln is screwed together just fine. And lately Lincoln interiors have been praised into the heavens. And if you are buying a car to be driven around in, what do you care if it’s a W16 or V6? You just want it to be quiet and smooth.

I’m not totally disagreeing with you at all. Just trying to rationalize a market for which the Continental does make sense. Personally, it would be pretty low on my list compared to offerings from the Europeans.

And to play devils advocate to my devils advocate, I bet the Navigator will be cross-shopped and that’s some stiff competition, within Lincoln itself.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs
12/17/2018 at 16:19

I think the Navigator is the logical move, the Continental is a poseur machine. If you’re being chauffeured, you aren’t buying a $100k Lincoln. You’re buying a $200k Merc S-Class, $300k Bentley, or a $400k Rolls.

Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
12/17/2018 at 16:27

When it comes to being chauffeured in SUV’s, I’d argue that it’s hard to beat a Navigator. These days I feel the Escalade has become a caricature of itself.

I’d say yes, S-Class, Bentley, Rolls if you are wealthy non-US, or wealthy in the US with a taste for all the cars of the world. But I bet a lot of CEO’s and high-flying politicians have (A) their image to consider and (B) may simply prefer to buy American if that’s possible. And not since the Town Car has Lincoln offered anything that comes even close to being a homerun in that department (looking at you, MKT)

BaconSandwich is tasty. > Chuckles
12/17/2018 at 22:19

BMW i3 also has a rear suicide door.