Your Oppoinion .... is this a scam?

"shop-teacher" (shop-teacher)
12/13/2018 at 14:48 • Filed to: Craigslist

UPDATE: Flagged for removal. I guess that answers that!

I’ve been generically searching for anything cheap, with a manual transmission. I found !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! just now. That’s not a vehicle I expected to find on this search, but it really is a manual. The ad doesn’t exhibit any of the common red flags ... but $1500 for a vehicle that new and that clean? I mean, I know the manual version of this is wildly undesirable to the general public, but that seems way too cheap to me. What do you all think? Am I missing something?

Link in replies, in case of kinja.

DISCUSSION (63)

shop-teacher > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 13:01

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/2004-honda-cr-very-clean/6763811568.html

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 13:05

mileage isn’t listed so it could have 240,000 miles, and a fresh detail job.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 13:09

Scam. It’s just to cheap. By all means, reply let us know how it goes.

My X-type is too a real Jaguar > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 13:12

From my experience the manual trans is a value killer. They are impossible to sell. There was a $6000 price difference between the manual and automatic F10 BMW I bought off lease 4 years ago.

WilliamsSW > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 13:14

I would be a little wary due to the price - and there are some pretty sketchy areas within the circle map. But maybe they just want to unload it?

Plenty of public places right there to meet at during the day, if the title is ok and mileage isn’t to the moon and back, though?

Nothing > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 13:14

Seems cheap. I’m always suspicious of a for sale by owner vehicle that has no plates on it.

Chuckles > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 13:20

2004 isn't as recent as it used to be. That's about to be a 15 year old car. I do this a lot when I'm looking at used cars and get suspicious of low prices. Then I remember that a car from 2008 is already a decade old.

random001 > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 13:21

YOLO!

Chariotoflove > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 13:22

Seems unlikely, but worth checking out.

fintail > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 13:23

Fakey McFakerson. Weird almost intentionally vague verbiage, no plates, no contact data.

BigBlock440 > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 13:26

Mileage isn’t listed, could be pretty high, and it’s 15 years old . Also, undercarriage could be pretty rotted. When that car was new, I was buying 10 year old cars at that price. Lots of cars newer than that selling for less than that. I just picked up an ‘03 Durango for under $3k with 120k. Seems legit.

Mercedes Streeter > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 13:26

I did my usual Craigslist scam research. Photos aren’t tiny and there are many provided, the photos don’t seem to exist anywhere else on the net (also good, scammers like posting in multiple places), and the pics look pretty current-ish. It’s definitely been heavily detailed (look at the dirt on the door hinge ) so check for underbody rust. I’d say go for it!

functionoverfashion > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 13:27

This one could go either way for me: scammer or totally tech-averse seller. And if it’s legit, probably over 200k.

Worth an email, anyway - you’ll know from the replies what you’re dealing with.

The Dummy Gummy > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 13:30

Does seem far-fetched if it’s high mileage:

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?sourceContext=untrackedExternal_false_0&newSearchFromOverviewPage=true&inventorySearchWidgetType=AUTO&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=c3859&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity2=c3861&zip=40601&distance=200&searchChanged=true&modelChanged=false&filtersModified=true

Future next gen S2000 owner > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
12/13/2018 at 13:31

This.

Urambo Tauro > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
12/13/2018 at 13:35

That’s probably the case here. I don’t see anything that screams “scam!”, but it sure is a lazy ad. T he price could probably be explained away by a high odo reading.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > My X-type is too a real Jaguar
12/13/2018 at 13:37

about a grand for e90s, when i bought mine.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Nothing
12/13/2018 at 13:40

I went to look at a ca r with my cousin this summer, and found out that despite being sold at a dealership it was listed as for sale by owner. Turned out this one salesman like to use this for their lower end, sub 8,000 dollar used cars. I found , and flagged all of his ads. Obviously we walked away from t he car, didn’t even make an offer.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 13:51

Remember: If you have to ask......

shop-teacher > Urambo Tauro
12/13/2018 at 13:56

Yeah, I could see that.

shop-teacher > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
12/13/2018 at 13:56

Fair point

shop-teacher > Nothing
12/13/2018 at 13:57

Oh, good point. Probably a curbstoner.

shop-teacher > Mercedes Streeter
12/13/2018 at 13:58

Well, we’ll first see if it’s available after the holidays. Underbody rust definitely needs to be checked for. This could look like the titanic under that lower cladding.

shop-teacher > Chuckles
12/13/2018 at 13:59

Good point. Still seems quite young, given the age of everything else I’m seeing in this price range.

shop-teacher > BigBlock440
12/13/2018 at 13:59

The bottom side will definitely need a close inspection.

shop-teacher > functionoverfashion
12/13/2018 at 14:00

Good point.

Sovande > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 14:00

Trade in value for that car with 200k is about $800 according to KBB. Double that and you get your value. $1500 sounds real to me.

shop-teacher > WilliamsSW
12/13/2018 at 14:01

There are sketchy places in Des Plaines?

shop-teacher > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
12/13/2018 at 14:02

I will if it’s still available after Christmas.

shop-teacher > fintail
12/13/2018 at 14:03

Contact info is in the reply link. Given the lack of plates though , it’s almost certainly a curbstoner.

shop-teacher > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/13/2018 at 14:04

Yeah, sometimes we need to check with each other just to make sure though.

shop-teacher > random001
12/13/2018 at 14:04

I would like for that once to last quite a while longer though.

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 14:07

Thats roughly auction price / trade in value, so it may be legit. I’d at least email.

2004 is not “new” by any means.

shop-teacher > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
12/13/2018 at 14:08

I will if it’s still available after the holidays.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 14:21

You're right, perhaps I'm too hardened from living in the most expensive used car region in the world (hyperbole)

MattHurting > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 14:32

Salvage title perhaps? That and/or over 200,000 miles would get it down to that price.

fintail > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 14:33

Flagged now, d’oh

The pragmatist in me also wonders why the ad was up for 10 days if it was real, barring the seller being lazy.

shop-teacher > fintail
12/13/2018 at 14:41

Well there you go then.

shop-teacher > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/13/2018 at 14:41

Well, it’s flagged now, so that answers that.

WilliamsSW > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 14:43

That area is right down by the river, and the railroad tracks. Floods frequently, too. Quite a few trailer parks there.

It’s not that bad though- I bowled at River Rand bowl for years, and the original McDonald’s franchise was right there, too. Also the hubcap joint is there too ( River Rand Auto IIRC).

NojustNo > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 14:49

If the car is legit at that price it’ll be gone in a few days

shop-teacher > WilliamsSW
12/13/2018 at 14:50

Oh yeah, I remember that place.

Anyways, the ad has been flagged, so I reckon the mysterious mystery has been solved.

WilliamsSW > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 14:55

Awww that’s too bad.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/13/2018 at 15:06

Just a reminder, I bought a 2018 Forte for $9K USD new.

Galileo Humpkins (aka MC Clap Yo Handz) > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 15:11

This is the perfect way to find yourself robbed of $1,500.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
12/13/2018 at 15:12

Which you immediately regretted!

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/13/2018 at 15:16

Cheap is cheap!

random001 > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 15:18

Send it!

OPPOsaurus WRX > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
12/13/2018 at 15:28

Boston would like to challenge you on that. Anything with no rust demands new model retail price even if its 10 years old with 100k miles

Mercedes Streeter > shop-teacher
12/13/2018 at 15:29

Could just be someone who flagged it to make sure they get it and nobody else does. I’ve seen that happen with motorcycles before, even ones I actually bought. lol

shop-teacher > Galileo Humpkins (aka MC Clap Yo Handz)
12/13/2018 at 15:51

The jokes on them then, I’ve got about 32 cents on me right now ;)