I love these things...

"Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras" (jegoingout)
12/11/2018 at 19:37 • Filed to: ford raptor

But could not for the life of me justify spending that much on a truck. The crazier thing is these are trading for or slightly above MSRP, even with miles on them.

DISCUSSION (36)

Spanfeller is a twat > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/11/2018 at 19:51

Why are they trading above MSRP? I mean... the market is slowing down, and I can’t imagine ford doesn’t have enough F150s to supply!

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > Spanfeller is a twat
12/11/2018 at 19:56

they’re crossing the lane at 62-66k

Spanfeller is a twat > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/11/2018 at 19:58

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > Spanfeller is a twat
12/11/2018 at 19:59

they’re crossing the lanes at the auction and selling for 62k and above**

Ash78, voting early and often > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/11/2018 at 20:03

I feel like if I had one, I’d have to be called The Raptist. It’s that conflicted feeling that TAE mentioned this morning.

CB > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/11/2018 at 20:09

I have come to the conclusion that it’s an unnecessary display of excess. That said, I like the idea of one, but I already drive an F-150 (and am not a fan), so maybe someday the Ranger Raptor will be a thing.

CRider > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/11/2018 at 20:13

I’m not sure what it is about being a truck that makes it not worth the price. It’s one of the most capable vehicles per dollar you can buy in any cate gory. It’s quicker, more capable, more practical, and more fun than anything at its price. They hold their value better than literally anything this side of a Ford GT, too - they simply do not depreciate in a way you expect vehicles to depreciate.

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/11/2018 at 20:15

Now I’m REALLY curious how much ‘05-’08 Grand Cherokees are going for at auction, because I know DAMN well it ain’t $8k+.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > CRider
12/11/2018 at 20:19

I don’t like trucks...so I’m biased. You are right from a value perspective though, I’ve bought several 16's at near msrp and they’ve sold for over it still

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
12/11/2018 at 20:20

BASE MMR

$3,700

Avg Odo (mi) 152,942

Avg Cond 2.8

Typical Range $1,925 - $5,500

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08 Jeep GC 5.7L Limited

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Ash78, voting early and often
12/11/2018 at 20:46

*Analrapist

Ash78, voting early and often > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
12/11/2018 at 20:51

I blue myself.

/should have been the mercedes bluemotion tagline

Tekamul > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/11/2018 at 20:52

Tell me again why trucks don’t pay guzzler taxes?

CRider > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/11/2018 at 20:54

Have you ever driven a Raptor? I don’t mean through a parking lot. It doesn’t drive like a truck, it drives like a trophy truck disguised as a truck. One day off road in one and you’d start saving your pennies, I gua rantee it.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > Tekamul
12/11/2018 at 20:54

*shrugs*

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > CRider
12/11/2018 at 20:55

don’t tempt me...i can own these things at cost to own + $300; I’m closing a deal on the one above for thousands back of MSRP as is.

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/11/2018 at 20:58

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HOLY SHIT THAT’S EVEN WORSE THAN MY ESTIMATES.

I was figuring based on retail around here, $4000-4500 for anything 110k-150k, since t hey’re selling them minimum $7.5 k with well over average odometer. With grade 3 exterior and, oh, grade 1.1 interior. Being generous.

Seriously, HOW DO I BRIBE YOU TO PICK ME ONE UP AT AUCTION? Hell, just let me find the damn thing, give you the money, all you gotta do is hang onto it for a few days. I will GLADLY pay you guys a thousand bucks for that.

Tekamul > CRider
12/11/2018 at 20:58

That’s definitely a matter of opinion. There’s essentially nothing I find positive about a modern truck beyond a star ndard cab long bed F -150. Even then, why so big just to haul some lumber? Trailers are a very good thing.

Outside of the narrow slice of people that are frequently towing large loads, there's always a better choice. But smart choices don't stroke egos.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
12/11/2018 at 21:00

a 134k mile one just went for $2300 in NJ, a 114k mile one with a 2.6 Condition report did 6k and a 156k mile one did 3,700.

Talk about all over the place..

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/11/2018 at 21:07

Seriously. Seriously seriously seriously. I f you guys wanna make some quick cash flipping these with a wash and oil change I will happily help you find the winners of these . Because they are selling at $7.5k+.

All you gotta do is let me find mine first, give you a ton of money for it, and I don’t even want the pick of the litter! I want the one that’s impossible to sell!

OH GOD PLEASE, BECAUSE IF I HAVE ANOTHER DEALER SAY “TRUST US NO RUST” I AM GOING TO KILL THEM ALL.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
12/11/2018 at 21:14

If i had more pull in my job, I would be happy to help you out. Since we got bought, I’ve had to adhere to stricter buying rules and anything over 60 days old gets cut no matter what.

CRider > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/11/2018 at 21:29

If the Raptor doesn’t tempt you, there’s nothing I can do to tempt you. It’s as powerful as a sports car, as quiet and luxurious as any truck can be, the most comfortable seats you’ve ever put your butt in, and a badass factor unmatched by anything that doesn’t have a roll cage. It’s a pickup truck with freaking paddle shifters and a Baja Mode with anti- lag. It has a locking rear axle and a torsen front diff, which is even useful on the street because it has AWD in addition to 4hi and 4low .

If you aren’t already jumping at the chance to buy one (and you should at that price , in California they go for $10k over MSRP all day), you really have no soul.

CRider > Tekamul
12/11/2018 at 21:31

The Raptor is not built to haul lumber, it’s built to haul ass. It’s an of road Porsche 911 GT3 that has finished the hardest desert races in the world in the Stock Full class. There is nothing not to like about it.

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/11/2018 at 21:36

Well shit, just slide me a login or a badge, and I’ll just pay the whole thing in cash. Your boss is none the wiser and you get to pocket a nice little Christmas bonus for yourself!

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > CRider
12/11/2018 at 21:38

I could buy an ‘18 with the 801 pack for 58,300; it has 10700 miles. Not saying I dont want to, i just have zero use for a truck that i know will never do truck things and will be relegated to me driving like a dick in it.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
12/11/2018 at 21:57

I wonder if there are any on OVE

BaconSandwich is tasty. > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/11/2018 at 22:02

$2 ,250 a year in fuel? Oof.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/11/2018 at 22:04

Now I'm curious - what does a 2014 Chevy Volt go for at auction?

Tekamul > CRider
12/11/2018 at 22:14

Off roa ding is for dirt bikes.

As for the power, it has almost as good a power to weight of a base WRX, but is slower, and a truck (with a 5.5 ft bed ).

And as you mentioned, it has paddle shifters. On a 10 speed. Sounds like carpel tunnel. Couldn’t even bother to give it a good man ual transmission .

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > BaconSandwich is tasty.
12/11/2018 at 22:26

BASE MMR

$8,775

Avg Odo (mi) 71,683

Avg Cond 3.7

Typical Range $6,175 - $11,350

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/11/2018 at 22:34

Probably... what annoys me is that everyone has gone to AuctionACCESS. Our local ADESA used to allow licensed buyers to bring a non-buyer guest in to dealer-only auctions - e.g. mechanic or friend - who just wasn’t allowed to bid or take title.

edit: Oh, NEAT! They have an ‘05 5.7 in DBG at the public repo auction! “ZONE 63 - DALLAS” “SHIP TO STATE - LOUISIANA”. Apparently ‘repo’ is a synonym for ‘flood salvage’!

BaconSandwich is tasty. > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/11/2018 at 22:42

Not bad, not bad. I was going to guess around the $9k mark. Lowest I’ve seen on the Bay Area Craigslist has been around the $10k mark or higher.

I think that might be my next car. That, or if used BMW i3 prices keep dropping, one of those.

CRider > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
12/12/2018 at 03:10

What did that sticker for? A crew cab under $60k is a steal, even with 10k miles. I’d much prefer the supercab, though. And I dunno, I think ‘driving like a dick’ is a pretty truck- y activity these days.

The Raptor is a sports car. It’s a sports car for the dirt, but it’s still a sports car. It has a suspension that sags under a load, it sucks gas like... w ell, like a Tacoma, and there’s no reason for anyone who’ s not pre running off road races to own one.

When the old Raptor came out, I think Motor Trend said it was the truck that made truck people out of people who don’t like trucks. I know there’s no other truck out there I’d want to own. It’s just in a class of its own, out there redefining what “ truck stuff” is. Raptor stuff means off road racing. It means locking the rear diff and doing donuts in the snow like a teenager in a stolen car. It means not giving a damn what the weather is like, and hoping conditions on the road are terrible so you have an excuse to play with your truck. That’s what Raptor stuff is. It’s a 6,500 lb laugh generator with heated seats and bypass shocks.

CRider > Tekamul
12/12/2018 at 03:16

Off roading is for dirt bikes but if you don’t think driving a mid/ long travel off road truck is fun you have no soul. Variety is the spice of life and the Raptor is as spicy as trucks come.

Comparing a full size truck to a compact sports car? That makes sense.

Automatics are better than manuals off road. In high speed off roading in particular , you do not want a manual. There is nothing wrong with an automatic with manual control - that’s what every purpose built off road vehicle comes with , from Ultra 4s to trophy trucks.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > CRider
12/12/2018 at 08:14

60 and change, whatever the MSRP says above

Spanfeller is a twat > Tekamul
12/12/2018 at 15:39

Because people with trucks vote for people that take taxes away from them?

Also see, farmers basically dictating foreign policy