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"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa) 12/08/2018 at 10:58 • Filed to: None

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This 180k mile Buick LeSabre Custom is for sale locally for $850. Bad trans. My friend just got a free 4MT Iron Duke Pontiac Fiero which he is going to use for a couple youtube videos and then scrap. Said 4MT will bolt right into a LeSabre, and after some minor clutch pedal and shifter mount fabricobbling would be the world’s probably-only manual trans 8th gen LeSabre. I want to do nothing more.

MM54 > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 12/08/2018 at 11:06

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How would this work electronically? That buick will not be happy without the trans wiring hooked up, and with the manual it’s not going to hook up.

someassemblyrequired > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 12/08/2018 at 11:09

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Oh man, manual 3800.   How could you stop yourself?  Though not sure if the 4MT in the Fiero can handle the 3800's torque - but it would probably hold up for a while.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > MM54 12/08/2018 at 11:11

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HPTuners to the rescue

benjrblant > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 12/08/2018 at 11:11

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Said 4MT will bolt right into a LeSabre

yeah, ok.

MM54 > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 12/08/2018 at 11:13

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In that case, go for it. I guess.

Sovande > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 12/08/2018 at 11:18

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It's worth what, $875 with a working transmission? 

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > benjrblant 12/08/2018 at 11:21

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GM legos.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 12/08/2018 at 11:30

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Hopefully a different friend than the one who sold you that Mazda.

Urambo Tauro > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 12/08/2018 at 11:42

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jasmits > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 12/08/2018 at 11:44

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Good luck with the fabrication part if you go for it, adding a clutch pedal to a vehicle(especially one that was never offered with one) is apparently much harder than you’d imagine.

404 - User No Longer Available > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 12/08/2018 at 11:44

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I wonder when will its cousin drop to this low.

https://www.autotrader.ca/a/oldsmobile/aurora/cambridge/ontario/19_10886978_/?showcpo=ShowCpo&ncse=no&orup=11_15_26&pc=L3R%204X9&sprx=100

shop-teacher > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 12/08/2018 at 11:50

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That's insane ... I love it.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > jasmits 12/08/2018 at 12:01

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He’s done it before. 

zerobandwidth > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 12/08/2018 at 12:30

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This, I’d like to see happen.

Biased Plies > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 12/08/2018 at 12:49

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Stop buying more shitty cars if you struggle to maintain the ones you have. Given your record over the last year, you should have figured this out by now and stuck to the minimum number of vehicles you and yours need to get around.

- voice of reason 

Future Heap Owner > Biased Plies 12/08/2018 at 12:58

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Get out

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 12/08/2018 at 13:06

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That would be like 4,000 rpm at 60, check the final drive ratios.

benjrblant > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 12/08/2018 at 13:56

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I don’t doubt that it could, but I’ve rarely heard of such things ever going so smoothly as they are made out to be. Plus, user name doesn’t bode well.

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Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 12/08/2018 at 14:14

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local youtuber, lol

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > benjrblant 12/08/2018 at 14:15

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idk I used to daily a jag with a smallblock chevy in it

E90M3 > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 12/08/2018 at 14:19

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idk I used to daily a jag with a smallblock chevy in it

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Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 12/08/2018 at 14:21

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I have the solution

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Biased Plies 12/08/2018 at 14:22

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you must be new here

benjrblant > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 12/08/2018 at 14:37

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Go for it then. Looking forward to a write-up!

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 12/08/2018 at 15:40

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Sorry man, not even remotely that simple. The 8th gen doesn’t have an independent TCM or a MEMCAL that speaks manual. You’d have to replace all the electronics to even have a hope of getting it to start.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks 12/08/2018 at 16:25

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I had thoughts about that. Manual V6 camaro PCM was one though. Another was a guy in California that has hacked up these ECUs to let them work with 4T80es.

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 12/08/2018 at 16:37

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Nope. Totally different engine. Just because it says 3.8L on the tin doesn’t mean it’s a 3800. Camaro’s an L36 which wasn’t used in any other US application.

No point using a 4T80 either unless you’ve got one of my engines. Even then, I used hybrid 4T60E/ 4T65E ’s.

Biased Plies > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 12/08/2018 at 17:17

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Hardly. 2013, IIRC.

I  mostly lurk now but have long resisted commenting on your automotive ( mis) adventures and the a pparent lack of financial sense with which you approach them.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 12/08/2018 at 18:21

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This one is way worse

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Biased Plies 12/08/2018 at 19:11

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So if you’ve been here that long what makes you think I’m in any way serious about this and not just shooting the shit about another dumb idea

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks 12/08/2018 at 19:17

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The L36 is the code for the naturally aspirated Series II engines... the same thing those LeSabres (and others) come with factory. We have a 4T80 in one of our compound boost setups but I’m more interested in L67+manual trans setups like in a Brunton Super St alker except transverse. Really though it’d need an F40 trans. The torque of even an L36 would probably split a Fiero 4MT in half, much less an L67 (which would be the true goals) .

My point when I mentioned the 4T80 is that there is a guy who knows how to change the relevant tables and bits in the PCM to make other trans like the 4t80 work, or to make manuals work. I believe he has done it for F40 -> Grand Prix GTP swaps.

Biased Plies > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 12/08/2018 at 20:29

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Buick lowered with tethers, janky 350 swapped Jag, cobbled together turbo Miata, etc. Your penchant for these sorts of ventures is well known so it’s not a stretch to think you’d be serious about this one.

Don’t get me wrong, I think all these things are hilarious fun but they cost you more than they should -  funds you shouldn’t treat as disposable. From what I’ve read, you stretch yourself financially to have fun with cars and bikes - buying things that are nicer/more fun/expensive/less practical/etc (Lexus, Miata) than you can really afford instead of cheaper, more basic, dependable transportation - that is unwise.

Listen, you’ve had some crap luck of late and I hate sound like I’m piling the hate on top of that but I’m just trying to offer a bit of sound advice from an older, though not necessarily wiser, head.

Good night.